[Discussion] Why Sasuke's way is wrong.

[Venomous Cobra]

Lol, do you not know what a revolution is? People who oppose Sasuke will end up fighting for their lives because he kills everyone who doesn't give him his cookie, so of course people will die. Nice try, though.

Exactly this

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Lol, do you not know what a revolution is? People who oppose Sasuke will end up fighting for their lives because he kills everyone who doesn't give him his cookie, so of course people will die. Nice try, though.

Yeah he killed Sakura cause she disagreed with him.Oh wait - he didn't.There geos your whole,"He will kill anyone who deosn't agree with him" arguement.

Exactly this

Chapter 693 Solos your thoughts.He clearly choose not to kill Sakura who "didn't give him his cookie" and he specifically said why he wants to kill Naruto,and in prevouis chapters we know why he wants to get rid of the Bijuu - so no one will ever be able to try IT again,or abuse their power.And he wants to kill the KAGES because they are the leaders to the messed up Shinobi World amd System that needs to be changed.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Sasuke, understanding him go beyond reading texts...
One should comprehend his past and life..

 

[BLAZE]

Lol, do you not know what a revolution is? People who oppose Sasuke will end up fighting for their lives because he kills everyone who doesn't give him his cookie, so of course people will die. Nice try, though.

Why is Sakura still alive despite Sasuke clearly stating he immobilized her she will follow and interfere in the battle thus an interruption in Killing Naruto. :|

Edit: it was BS

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Why is Sakura still alive despite Sasuke clearly stating he immobilized her she will follow and interfere in the battle thus an interruption in Killing Naruto. :|

Well of course he isn't going to kill her cause 1- she saved him 2- naruto was there and sasuke plan was to fight naruto alone

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Yeah he killed Sakura cause she disagreed with him.Oh wait - he didn't.There geos your whole,"He will kill anyone who deosn't agree with him" arguement.


Chapter 693 Solos your thoughts.He clearly choose not to kill Sakura who "didn't give him his cookie" and he specifically said why he wants to kill Naruto,and in prevouis chapters we know why he wants to get rid of the Bijuu - so no one will ever be able to try IT again,or abuse their power.And he wants to kill the KAGES because they are the leaders to the messed up Shinobi World amd System that needs to be changed.

Sakura saved him and sasuke isn't that ungrateful to kill her besides he had a certain goal which was to fight naruto alone

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Why is Sakura still alive despite Sasuke clearly stating he immobilized her she will follow and interfere in the battle thus an interruption in Killing Naruto. :|



i m stilling waiting kakashi's genjutsu breaking feats with Sharingan :|

Pumpkin,how will you counter this and my post above?

Sakura saved him and sasuke isn't that ungrateful to kill her besides he had a certain goal which was to fight naruto alone

Lol,your assumptions about Sasuke is not consistent.You were just agreeing with Pumpkin that Sasuke would kill everyone who disagrees with him,now you're making excuses about why he didn't kill Sakura who disagreed with him.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Why is Sakura still alive despite Sasuke clearly stating he immobilized her she will follow and interfere in the battle thus an interruption in Killing Naruto. :|



i m stilling waiting kakashi's genjutsu breaking feats with Sharingan :|

Am I have to start this all over again alright I amma make a thread about it wait for a minute

 

[BLAZE]

Well of course he isn't going to kill her cause 1- she saved him 2- naruto was there and sasuke plan was to fight naruto alone

1.Does it matter its Sasuke we r talking about
2'The problem is if Sasuke thought he she was an interruption he should have killed her logically without giving any $#!t about others :|

Am I have to start this all over again alright I amma make a thread about it wait for a minute

Edited it
if u want to make one do it later i have CSE paper in 30 mins :|

 

[Trea]

My problem is not that Sasuke wants a revolution, my problem is the way he's going about it. If he was so sure he was going about this the right way why wouldn't he just wake up everyone from IT and ask them if anyone is interested in joining his revolution? Killing the Kages while they are asleep is cowardly, they should have a right to defend themselves against his accusations.

Mei, Tsunade and Gaara are not responsible. Mei and Gaara are fairly new Hokages and both are trying to clean up the darkness of their villages. Tsunade, who never trusted Danzo or the elders was just starting to defy them when the Pain thing happened and then the war came.

He clearly stated he intends to kill Naruto. People in the alliance have come to like and respect Naruto. They realized he thought of the entire alliance as comrades and he did his best to protect them, no matter what village they came from. If he was so sure killing Naruto was the correct thing to do to start off his revolution why not let everyone see it? Because he knows they would not let him do it.

Why isn't he waking up everyone from IT? He has no idea how long it takes to turn from a person to a White Zetsu and yet he is taking chances with their lives by not waking them up. He doesn't care about them, he only cares about his own selfish wants and needs. He doesn't know for sure that he can wake up everyone without Naruto but he's willing to gamble with their lives to get his own way. That's not the sign of a leader.

After all that he has been through he has not learned a thing. He thinks he knows what's best for everyone just like Madara and Obito and also like them he thinks power is everything. All he he has done is transfer all of his hatred for Itachi to Naruto, the tailed beasts and the system.

He can't make up for killing Itachi by killing the Kages and Naruto, that won't get rid of the hate in his heart. Is everyone who gets in his way or disagrees with him going to be killed or put under genjutsu? You can't be a good leader if you could care less about the people you lead. You can't care about anyone else when you are full of anger and hatred.

Clearly things do need to change, but Sasuke has been around for maybe a few hours or 1 day of the war and he thinks he knows about everything that happened. Things have changed since the alliance was formed. He'd rather get right to the killing instead of releasing the IT and assessing whether or not many things have changed since he left the village and how the alliance might have affected the villages relationships to each other. I'd be more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if his plans didn't start with killing people.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Yeah he killed Sakura cause she disagreed with him.Oh wait - he didn't.There geos your whole,"He will kill anyone who deosn't agree with him" arguement.


Chapter 693 Solos your thoughts.He clearly choose not to kill Sakura who "didn't give him his cookie" and he specifically said why he wants to kill Naruto,and in prevouis chapters we know why he wants to get rid of the Bijuu - so no one will ever be able to try IT again,or abuse their power.And he wants to kill the KAGES because they are the leaders to the messed up Shinobi World amd System that needs to be changed.

Yeah coz putting those who disagree in genjutsu is so much better. Wait, isn't that what Obito and Madara did?

My problem is not that Sasuke wants a revolution, my problem is the way he's going about it. If he was so sure he was going about this the right way why wouldn't he just wake up everyone from IT and ask them if anyone is interested in joining his revolution? Killing the Kages while they are asleep is cowardly, they should have a right to defend themselves against his accusations.

Mei, Tsunade and Gaara are not responsible. Mei and Gaara are fairly new Hokages and both are trying to clean up the darkness of their villages. Tsunade, who never trusted Danzo or the elders was just starting to defy them when the Pain thing happened and then the war came.

He clearly stated he intends to kill Naruto. People in the alliance have come to like and respect Naruto. They realized he thought of the entire alliance as comrades and he did his best to protect them, no matter what village they came from. If he was so sure killing Naruto was the correct thing to do to start off his revolution why not let everyone see it? Because he knows they would not let him do it.

Why isn't he waking up everyone from IT? He has no idea how long it takes to turn from a person to a White Zetsu and yet he is taking chances with their lives by not waking them up. He doesn't care about them, he only cares about his own selfish wants and needs. He doesn't know for sure that he can wake up everyone without Naruto but he's willing to gamble with their lives to get his own way. That's not the sign of a leader.

After all that he has been through he has not learned a thing. He thinks he knows what's best for everyone just like Madara and Obito and also like them he thinks power is everything. All he he has done is transfer all of his hatred for Itachi to Naruto, the tailed beasts and the system.

He can't make up for killing Itachi by killing the Kages and Naruto, that won't get rid of the hate in his heart. Is everyone who gets in his way or disagrees with him going to be killed or put under genjutsu? You can't be a good leader if you could care less about the people you lead. You can't care about anyone else when you are full of anger and hatred.

Clearly things do need to change, but Sasuke has been around for maybe a few hours or 1 day of the war and he thinks he knows about everything that happened. Things have changed since the alliance was formed. He'd rather get right to the killing instead of releasing the IT and assessing whether or not many things have changed since he left the village and how the alliance might have affected the villages relationships to each other. I'd be more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if his plans didn't start with killing people.

Well said.

 

[RedShadow]

You're simply retarded if you think this guy would bring good to the world:

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Oh, and I'd love to hear the day old plan of a kid who not until long ago thought revenge would bring him happiness.

Haha your on point with the evidence!

 

[valandil988]

To rule over the world or decide for them Sasuke would have to be the most emphatic person ever. All I can see is him being monumentally selfish and deciding for everyone what should happen.

Naruto is the most qualified to to carry out Sasuke's plan due to his empathy technique which would allow him to understand people far more easily.

Perhaps Naruto could share that ability maybe that would work. Give everyone emotion sensing???

 

[Byron123]

My only problem with your reasoning is that Hagoromo may have had the power to rule with force, but he didn't, and as far as we know, he never intended to, so people didn't oppose him. Therefore he was not a "righteous dictator"- because he wasn't a dictator to begin with. The difference between a dictator and other leaders is how they rise to power. Hagoromo had people's support and his intention was to connect people with ninshuu.

Also, while in a monarchy, there may come a time when a ruler will be corrupt- but leaders can get corrupted even in democracy by time, the main difference is that in democracy people are supposed to change the corrupt leaders in a peaceful way.

Other than that I don't agree with Sasuke's way, but not exactly for your reasons.

The point of my thread is the difference on how I examine Sasuke's way in general. Most people would question his ability to rule in the first place but what I'm trying to prove is that even if he could rule ideally, it would still bring bigger destruction than the good that would cause for the simple reason that it is certain that at some point a hegemon is bound to get corrupted, if not him the following one. So what I did was reductio ad absurdum. If by examining the ideal scenario we conclude that it would do more bad than good then why should I even question Sasuke's ability when it's visible that even in the best cases it would be fruitless?

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Sasuke's plan to go about what he's doing is wrong and endanger's many people the Kage / Tailed Beasts, Sasuke's naive and nobody believes in his stupid revolution Taka may follow him but they are just as scared of him like that fool who turns to water he couldn't wait to try get away from Sasuke after the 4 hokage were revived lol a lone idiot who will achieve nothing vs Naruto who has many reasons to stop Sasuke and the ability to counter and stop him period.

 

[EternalFlame]

Naruto's way is also wrong

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Naruto's way is also wrong

Care to explain in more detail? But I'm pretty sure it isn't

 

[Rmstorm]

You people are rediculous, Sasuke wants dictatorship. You are just trying to protect your precious little Sasuke, you fanboys. My favorite character in Naruto is Guy. SO i ;m not feeling Naurto's way but I know Sasuke's way is 10x worse.

 

[Sarahmint]

You're entire thread is based on the assumption that Sasuke wants to create a monarchy, something that isn't even implied in canon.

Fail thread is a fail.

We won't know till 594 at least, and a lot of things would be better then the genocidal child soldier system they have now.