[Discussion] Why Sasuke's way is wrong.

[Venomous Cobra]

The Hokage rules over the world?


Don't the Kages send Shinobi on Assasination missions?

I don't remember the kage (personally) killing people for their own selfish reasons and even so I didn't Say they deserve to be a kage did I ? Lol

 

[Byron123]

You're simply retarded if you think this guy would bring good to the world:

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Oh, and I'd love to hear the day old plan of a kid who not until long ago thought revenge would bring him happiness.

I clearly set conditions when I said if he's not corrupted by his power or if he rules ideally. What I judge is not Sasuke's own ability to rule but the wide belief that no one can't rule well alone. What I'm saying is that it could bring temporary solutions only because of its impossibity to always find good leaders.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I clearly set conditions when I said if he's not corrupted by his power or if he rules ideally. What I judge is not Sasuke's own ability to rule but the wide belief that no one can't rule well alone. What I'm saying is that it could bring temporal solutions only because of its impossibity to always find good leaders.

I know that and I agree but he cannot rule ideally. That's the thing. And when I said "you're simply retarded" I meant everyone who thinks Sasuke would make a good leader with his current mindset is retarded. Not you, sorry.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

It's called an opinion. An inference would mean that there was foreshadowing that pointed to this conclusion.



Their mistakes led to the deaths of thousands of their own shinobi. Rather big mistakes imo

Well no one is perfect but still I think you missed the question point , all I am asking you as person would you kill someone because they made some big mistakes ?

 

[Trúth]

You're simply retarded if you think this guy would bring good to the world:

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Oh, and I'd love to hear the day old plan of a kid who not until long ago thought revenge would bring him happiness.

If no more pointless deaths, or kids being forced to kill their families, corrupt leaders and pointless wars can be considered bad then I agree with you 100% There are tons of issues with the current system, Sasuke has experienced them first hand. You have to be truly retarded to not see that.

Well no one is perfect but still I think you missed the question point , all I am asking you as person would you kill someone because they made some big mistakes ?

In the 5 Kages case? Yes. They knowingly chose wars, attacked other villages etc. knowing they were leading their own ninja to unnecessary deaths. They're not innocent with the exception of Tsunade, Mei and Gaara.

 

[The English Uchiha]

"Their mistakes led to the deaths of thousands of their own shinobi. Rather big mistakes imo"

Well no one is perfect but still I think you missed the question point , all I am asking you as person would you kill someone because they made some big mistakes ?

That's not even close to perfect though...

 

[BLAZE]

two 17 y.o punks trying to stabalize a crapsack world one is a crimnal wanting so called Revolution consisting of one person other thinks of Fairy land with Rainbows and disney style happy ever after
Tough choice who is right :|

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

If no more pointless deaths, or kids being forced to kill their families, corrupt leaders and pointless wars can be considered bad then I agree with you 100% There are tons of issues with the current system, Sasuke has experienced them first hand. You have to be truly retarded to not see that.

A change of system is required, Sasuke however, is not fit to deliver it. Experiencing it first hand does not give him reason.

 

[Reflection]

It's called an opinion. An inference would mean that there was foreshadowing that pointed to this conclusion.


Their mistakes led to the deaths of thousands of their own shinobi. Rather big mistakes imo

Who would agree with his shinobi system unless they are brainwashed? You can't have a democracy when you are the only one who agrees with your own system, which means that your Kage system will be forced, thus establishing the most corrupt of all governments--- dictatorship.

 

[Byron123]

I know that and I agree but he cannot rule ideally. That's the thing. And when I said "you're simply retarded" I meant everyone who thinks Sasuke would make a good leader with his current mindset is retarded. Not you, sorry.

Doesn't matter, I simply wanted to make my point clear because I don't like people who reject ideas without even considering them

Well no one is perfect but still I think you missed the question point , all I am asking you as person would you kill someone because they made some big mistakes ?

Ofc not, but a regime can never be completely perfect here. What I question here is if Sasuke's injustice would be less than the combined injustice other leaders would cause and thus if his method would be more beneficial.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

thats danzo's way of thinking

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Assasination would be listed as S-Class Rank,usually done by Jounins and Anbus.Hiruzen,even though he was Hokage failed/allowed Itachi to assasinate the Uchihas.

Also,Missing Nin are usually hunted down to be killed.The Raikage mention it during the Kage Summit,and better yet Zabuza and Haku themselves were being hunted down by a Squad of Shinobi Hunters.

 

[Trúth]

A change of system is required, Sasuke however, is not fit to deliver it. Experiencing it first hand does not give him reason.

Sounds like your opinion.

Well no one is perfect but still I think you missed the question point , all I am asking you as person would you kill someone because they made some big mistakes ?

In the 5 Kages case? Yes. They knowingly chose wars, attacked other villages etc. knowing they were leading their own ninja to unnecessary deaths. They're not innocent with the exception of Tsunade, Mei and Gaara.

Who would agree with his shinobi system unless they are brainwashed? You can't have a democracy when you are the only one who agrees with your own system, which means that your Kage system will be forced, thus establishing the most corrupt of all governments--- dictatorship.

You don't even know what his system is Lol. And many would agree with it. This is basic, the system has failed and here is someone suggesting a new one. Thousands who have been hurt by the current one would flock over.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

The relationship between the Kages of the 5 nations have never been better. Even the shinobi are feeling compassionate towards each other. Sasuke implementing his plan will ruin this. He's using force to get what he wants and he doesn't understand that there will always be an opposing force. Therefore lots of bloodshed.

 

[Reflection]

Sounds like your opinion.


In the 5 Kages case? Yes. They knowingly chose wars, attacked other villages etc. knowing they were leading their own ninja to unnecessary deaths. They're not innocent with the exception of Tsunade, Mei and Gaara.

You don't even know what his system is Lol. Please

It involves murdering the Kage, killing the tailed beasts, and Naruto. Name me one person who would even agree with the revolt itself. Yes, take your time as I am sure you will need it lol.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Doesn't matter, I simply wanted to make my point clear because I don't like people who reject ideas without even considering them

Ofc not, but a regime can never be completely perfect here. What I question here is if Sasuke's injustice would be less than the combined injustice other leaders would cause and thus if his method would be more beneficial.

And that doesn't go only for sasuke , if anyone with power and intelligence of course try to rule the world their injustice would be less than the injustice of the hokage combined Lol

 

[Trúth]

The relationship between the Kages of the 5 nations have never been better. Even the shinobi are feeling compassionate towards each other. Sasuke implementing his plan will ruin this. He's using force to get what he wants and he doesn't understand that there will always be an opposing force. Therefore lots of bloodshed.

Allies one day, enemies the next. That's always how it's been between them. Sasuke isn't taking risks, and either way if they were allowed to live they would go back to the same shit. Their system depends on it.

It involves murdering the Kage, killing the tailed beasts, and Naruto. Name me one person who would even agree with the revolt itself. Yes, take your time as I am sure you will need it lol.

I don't need too. What a silly argument, basically his revolution involves getting rid of all the current problems. So many would agree

 

[BLAZE]

A change of system is required, Sasuke however, is not fit to deliver it. Experiencing it first hand does not give him reason.

who is fit to deliver it then :|

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Sounds like your opinion.

It is an assumption based on his past actions and even the way he acts now. You're very arrogant to act like your posts are not opinions while you try to pass them off as fact. Tell me why Sasuke seems fit? What makes him better than anyone else? To me he looks like an unstable victim of the current system. He barely has any leadership skills and he's decided on a revolution in one day. Use logic. He believes getting rid of all opposition by force will work. Not to mention, he's against the majority.

who is fit to deliver it then :|

I believe Gaara and Kakashi have the right mindset. They have that Ying-Yang balance. Sasuke is one side of the symbol while Naruto is the other. Neither of them alone are fit to run it.

 

[Byron123]

Allies one day, enemies the next. That's always how it's been between them. Sasuke isn't taking risks, and either way if they were allowed to live they would go back to the same shit. Their system depends on it.



I don't need too. What a silly argument, basically his revolution involves getting rid of all the current problems. So many would agree

Just to make something clear so I won't be misunderstood.What I judge is not Sasuke's own ability to rule but the wide belief that no one can't rule well alone. What I'm saying is that it could bring temporary solutions only because of its impossibity to always find good leaders and in ideal cases (with always excellent rulers)its only true drawback is that in the long term it's bound to cause more instability that the stability that exists in other regimes.

 

[Trúth]

Sounds like your opinion. [/Quotes]
It is an assumption based on his past actions and even the way he acts now. You're very arrogant to act like your posts are not opinions while you try to pass them off as fact. Tell me why Sasuke seems fit? What makes him better than anyone else? To me he looks like an unstable victim of the current system. He barely has any leadership skills and he's decided on a revolution in one day. Use logic. He believes getting rid of all opposition by force will work. Not to mention, he's against the majority.

He's experienced these issues first hand. I consider him to be very fit for the position. If I come off as arrogant, it's because I've been saying the obvious since this revolution started and you still don't seem to get it.

Just to make something clear so I won't be misunderstood.What I judge is not Sasuke's own ability to rule but the wide belief that no one can't rule well alone. What I'm saying is that it could bring temporary solutions only because of its impossibity to always find good leaders and in ideal cases (with always excellent rulers)its only true drawback is that in the long term it's bound to cause more instability that the stability that exists in other regimes.

I understood you. I just do not agree. Nothing says Sasuke is creating a monarch.