Hashirama vs Tobirama and Minato

[Demonic.]

why would they need to destroy the whole forest?
Did Onoki do that? No. all they need is really to destroy the 5 flowers and that will be more than enough.

Onoki had a long range jutsu jinton. Tobirama and Minato would have to get up close, and that means they're passing out like the 5 kage did. Not to mention Madara was toying with them and didn't even try to stop the Tsuchikage lol.

 

[Demonic.]

If they did hashirama/Tobirama wouldn't be complaining about reaching their limits when creating clones while holding the red sun barrier. If it's unlimited then there's no limit to reach. Yet both reached it.
Conclusion? They don't have unlimited chakra.
@ an awesome senju

No they don't infact they're weaker than their alive forms by their own admission.

Hashirama, Madara, and Tobirama sure. But if you think Edo old Hiruzen is weaker than alive old Hiruzen then I don't know what to say to you XD

 

[Ababeel]

Onoki had a long range jutsu jinton. Tobirama and Minato would have to get up close, and that means they're passing out like the 5 kage did. Not to mention Madara was toying with them and didn't even try to stop the Tsuchikage lol.

Tobirama can use the water jutsu. And as I said Minato can summon the frogs for a long rage attacks as well.
or Tobirama can simply send his ET to do that for him.

as for madara, that has nothing to do with Onoki destroying the forest. In addition, both Minato and Tobirama are far faster than Hashirama
even if he want to try to strop them, he won't be able to do so...

 

[Demonic.]

Tobirama can use the water jutsu. And as I said Minato can summon the frogs for a long rage attacks as well.
or Tobirama can simply send his ET to do that for him.

as for madara, that has nothing to do with Onoki destroying the forest. In addition, both Minato and Tobirama are far faster than Hashirama
even if he want to try to strop them, he won't be able to do so...

Any toad summon gets subdued easily.

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And if Hashirama managed to block a Susano sword coming down at him with giant Mokuton Hands, I think he can do the same with Tobirama's water pistol that managed to cut a few branches off a forrest at best.

 

[Ababeel]

Any toad summon gets subdued easily.

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And if Hashirama managed to block a Susano sword coming down at him with giant Mokuton Hands, I think he can do the same with Tobirama's water pistol that managed to cut a few branches off a forrest at best.

why are you jumping to another point when we are talking about the flowers? Lol

as for those wooden hands, either Minato can cut them easily as he did to much bigger branches

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or Tobirama can use his water wave jutsu...

 

[Demonic.]

why are you jumping to another point when we are talking about the flowers? Lol

as for those wooden hands, either Minato can cut them easily as he did to much bigger branches

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or Tobirama can use his water wave jutsu...

Those branches are small as shit dude:

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XD it managed to withstand a PS sword, what the hell is Tobirama's suiton going to do???

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Hashirama, Madara, and Tobirama sure. But if you think Edo old Hiruzen is weaker than alive old Hiruzen then I don't know what to say to you XD

He is by default. They weren't brought back 100%.
The only reason it seems different is the Part1 to Part2 power scale.

 

[sheldon156]

tobirama ghost mode is enough ,while minato distract hasirama

 

[Ababeel]

Those branches are small as shit dude:

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XD it managed to withstand a PS sword, what the hell is Tobirama's suiton going to do???

they are huge. U_U

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Tobirama's water jutsu cut through the Tree's branches as well.

 

[ad0]

SM Harshirama win with low difficulty he do not even need sage mode for those 2

Just because of FTG people start to get false thoughts for them

 

[ARGUS]

and how is he going to do that? Lol

--by covering the battlefiled with mokuton and destroying all the marked locations through mokujin, jukai kotan or SS Lol

--SS crushes them like little insects, neither minato nor tobiramma are evading its attacks, nor are they taking it out

--Toad Summons get overwhelmed by mokujin, or pinned down by myojinmon, they are non factor

--Flower Tree world is also putting them to sleep seeing how none of them have the firepower to bypass it

--neither minato nor tobirama have the firepower to counter hashiramas mokuton nor do they have anyway to escape their large AOE

--Tobirama lacking GKF here just makes it worse for them, not that it had any factor whatsoever as hashiramas mokutons can tank it with ease, and minatos rasengans are nonfactor as well due to mokuryu

--SM is not even needed

In summary: Minato or Tobirama dont stand a chance

 

[Conspirator.]

Hashirama wins mid diff.

-With a clap of his hands he can change the landscape with Flower tree world-so Minato and Tobirama will have no where to teleport too. Plus if they leave the battlefield they lose via BFR. The poison pollen will knock them unconscious.
-Any of Minato's fodder toad summons get restrained by Wood dragon or crushed by wood golem.(which was stalemating PS)
-Myojinmon restrains TObirama's edos, and even if Gojo does goes off, Hashirama's Hobi tanks it.(as it withstood the impact of a bijuudama with barely a crack.)

Hashirama wins mid diff overall.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol, Shinsuusenju isn't needed for these two, and Minato warping it away with enough chakra to fight after that is nothing but another joke told on NB.

-Edos have unlimited stamina and unlimited chakra. Their pool doesn't increase, just in case anyone replies to me saying it does, instead it never runs out, and despite how low they got on chakra, they don't feel any fatigue, and their chakra always regenerates itself. So Minato could use up his whole reserves (Almost all of it) to do something and still be able to fight and won't feel fatigue, on the other hand, if he was alive, he'd either strain himself and die/collapse.

-Alive Minato teleported Kurama and was already starting to feel tired. If he had warped the Juubi's Bijuu Dama by itself, he'd be exhausted and unable to fight.

-SS is larger than the Juubi by far, which is larger than its Bijuu Dama, so Minato isn't teleporting shit.

 

[Zee U]

Hashirama rapes them.

 

[LuckyMan]

Hashirama gets blitz from 40 meters and from there its game over!

 

[Blunt]

Hashirama rapes this duo.

 

[Valhorus]

Lol, Shinsuusenju isn't needed for these two, and Minato warping it away with enough chakra to fight after that is nothing but another joke told on NB.

-Edos have unlimited stamina and unlimited chakra. Their pool doesn't increase, just in case anyone replies to me saying it does, instead it never runs out, and despite how low they got on chakra, they don't feel any fatigue, and their chakra always regenerates itself. So Minato could use up his whole reserves (Almost all of it) to do something and still be able to fight and won't feel fatigue, on the other hand, if he was alive, he'd either strain himself and die/collapse.

-Alive Minato teleported Kurama and was already starting to feel tired. If he had warped the Juubi's Bijuu Dama by itself, he'd be exhausted and unable to fight.

-SS is larger than the Juubi by far, which is larger than its Bijuu Dama, so Minato isn't teleporting shit.

True , but you are missing some things that Minato used his chakra for before wraping away Kurama .

 

[KidGamer65]

True , but you are missing some things that Minato used his chakra for before wraping away Kurama .

He teleported its Bijuu Dama, and he summoned Gamabunta. Though the Juubi dwarfs all 3 combined in size. (Which is what determines the amount of chakra used on warping something or summoning an animal)

 

[Valhorus]

He teleported its Bijuu Dama, and he summoned Gamabunta. Though the Juubi dwarfs all 3 combined in size. (Which is what determines the amount of chakra used on warping something or summoning an animal)

I was just pointing it out nothing more . He also used FTG couple of times and put a mark and a contract seal on Tobi . At least we can say he has the pool to wrap Juubi's Bijuudama since like you said their pools isn't increased , if he is going to collapse after that is another thing XD .

 

[KidGamer65]

I was just pointing it out nothing more . He also used FTG couple of times and put a mark and a contract seal on Tobi . At least we can say he has the pool to wrap Juubi's Bijuudama since like you said their pools isn't increased , if he is going to collapse after that is another thing XD .

Yup, glad you agree.