Hashirama vs Tobirama and Minato

[Ababeel]

Lol, you're suggesting Minato can solo SM Hashirama then?

How can Hashirama defeat them in your opinion? Lol

 

[Haizaki]

Hahsirama eats them

 

[Demonic.]

I'm suggesting they can beat Hashirama with Hirashin because he can't react to it. Plain and simple. No one can. You can't react to Hirashin, its instant, meaning no time passes. All one can do is react to the speed at which they attack, not the initial teleport because thats impossible. Hashirama has no reaction and fight speed feats either to even claim he can react to their attacks after they teleport either so hes in a lose lose situation.

Are you forgetting Tobirama was a watered down version of himself with lower stats while Edo Tensei and Madara was alive with his full stats?

Watered down version? Tobirama said they were virtually at full strength, and had Tobirama been at full strength, what difference would it have made? Would FTG have been faster?

FTG is instant, but not the users movements after the teleportation itself, and that's what Madara reacted to with Hashirama's senjutsu.

 

[LuckyMan]

Watered down version? Tobirama said they were virtually at full strength, and had Tobirama been at full strength, what difference would it have made? Would FTG have been faster?

Almost at full power and full power are not the same. Almost at full power is anything over 50% (more than half) so they could have ranged from 50% to 99%. Who are you to say where they were? Watered down is anything not 100% so yes, he was watered down and yes it would have made a difference had he been alive. The body he had been reincarnated with was not his, his soul was just inhabiting it. All his movements and reactions would have been better with his own body, as Madara clearly demonstrated.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Base Minato? Or unlimited chakra edo Minato?


Lol, you're suggesting Minato can solo SM Hashirama then?

Lol edo's don't have unlimited chakra lol

 

[Haizaki]

Lol edo's don't have unlimited chakra lol

Why did you say so?

 

[Demonic.]

Almost at full power and full power are not the same. Almost at full power is anything over 50% (more than half) so they could have ranged from 50% to 99%. Who are you to say where they were? Watered down is anything not 100% so yes, he was watered down and yes it would have made a difference had he been alive. The body he had been reincarnated with was not his, his soul was just inhabiting it. All his movements and reactions would have been better with his own body, as Madara clearly demonstrated.

Lol, but even if you're right the same goes for Hashirama, so your point is moot.

With Hashirama's Sage Mode, Madara already reacted to FTG, twice, and here's proof.

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Lol edo's don't have unlimited chakra lol

Of course they do, they recharge it after a while, but their chakra reserves can't be compared to their alive counterparts like you're trying to. Old Hiruzen is a perfect example.

 

[VongolaX]

Lol, Minato needed time to gather up enough chakra to teleport Kurama, SS dwarfs it.

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Using ftg level two, toad summoning, of course he'll need to gather enough chakra so he can start RDS effective immediately.

Like I posted before, full juubi TTB

 

[ARGUS]

hashirama wrecks them

 

[VongolaX]

Umm that barrier is stationary, how does it warp something not flying at it?

The Buddah statue is going to be walking towards them if it needs to land blows.

So the ftg is stationary trap, while the statue is a moving target.

 

[Demonic.]

Using ftg level two, toad summoning, of course he'll need to gather enough chakra so he can start RDS effective immediately.

Like I posted before, full juubi TTB

I think Minato himself said he'd need to gather enough chakra to teleport something as huge as Kurama...SS is out of the question if this is true

 

[VongolaX]

I think Minato himself said he'd need to gather enough chakra to teleport something as huge as Kurama...SS is out of the question if this is true

Well I need proof, because even Jiraiya noted that it takes a huge amount of chakra to control the boss toad complete.

Something base Jiraiya couldn't do...

Sm minato would send the buddah away no problem at all.

If base minato can send a juubi's largest/strongest TTB attack away.

There is no question about it for the buddah.

Didn't even mention Tobirama's help yet.

 

[Ababeel]

hashirama wrecks them

and how is he going to do that? Lol

 

[Demonic.]

Well I need proof, because even Jiraiya noted that it takes a huge amount of chakra to control the boss toad complete.

Something base Jiraiya couldn't do...

Sm minato would send the buddah away no problem at all.

If base minato can send a juubi's largest/strongest TTB attack away.

There is no question about it for the buddah.

Didn't even mention Tobirama's help yet.

Minato said he needed time to gather enough chakra. We don't know if this means due to size or that he was out of chakra. I'm pretty sure it's size though. Unlike the FTG barrier, I don't think Minato can teleport giant sized objects like nothing. Even Kamui has a size limitation.

and how is he going to do that? Lol

Shut your Minato fapboy ass up -___- Deep Forest Bloom + Multiple Wood clones is more than enough

 

[Ababeel]

Shut your Minato fapboy ass up -___- Deep Forest Bloom + Multiple Wood clones is more than enough

stop being offensive, is Hashirama your adopted father or what?

1- they can teleport away.

Multiple Wood clones is more than enough

Sorry, but that just beyond stupid, Minato is able to solo armies and you tell me Hashirama's fodder clones are going to do jack. lol

 

[Demonic.]

stop being offensive, is Hashirama your adopted father or what?

1- they can teleport away.



Sorry, but that just beyond stupid, Minato is able to solo armies and you tell Hashirama's fodder clones are going to do jack. lol

Lol, exactly. Retreat is the only thing they can do against deep forrest bloom. That's technically a loss, since those clowns have no way of leveling the whole forrest. It's not like Hashirama is going to remove the forrest for them.

 

[Ababeel]

Lol, exactly. Retreat is the only thing they can do against deep forrest bloom. That's technically a loss, since those clowns have no way of leveling the whole forrest. It's not like Hashirama is going to remove the forrest for them.

they can cut the Trees as well. Or Minato can summon the frogs for that matter, or Tobirama can use the explosion tags jutsu to
destroy them. U_U

 

[Demonic.]

they can cut the Trees as well. Or Minato can summon the frogs for that matter, or Tobirama can use the explosion tags jutsu to
destroy them. U_U

The whole forrest? You're dreaming. And Hashirama isnt going to sit there and let them do whatever they want either

 

[Ababeel]

The whole forrest? You're dreaming. And Hashirama isnt going to sit there and let them do whatever they want either

why would they need to destroy the whole forest?
Did Onoki do that? No. all they need is really to destroy the 5 flowers and that will be more than enough.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why did you say so?

If they did hashirama/Tobirama wouldn't be complaining about reaching their limits when creating clones while holding the red sun barrier. If it's unlimited then there's no limit to reach. Yet both reached it.
Conclusion? They don't have unlimited chakra.
@ an awesome senju

No they don't infact they're weaker than their alive forms by their own admission.