Madara's MS ability is...

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I don't think it was limbo, but more like a weaker variation of it. Seeing as how 1 eye Rinnegan Madara was only able to use one Limbo clone at a time.
That's still Limbo, having a clone that no one can see or sense unless they have the Sage power is strong. Also Madara and Obito stated the Sharingan's full power is when both eyes are together and that's why we see Madara have 4 clones after he got both eye.

Wrong, if Madara's MS ability was Limbo he would've killed Hashirama at VOTE, and Madara used Limbo also with 1 Rinnegan eye.
How so? Limbo does physical damage and Hashirama has healing abilities which Madara showed more than once after he was revived. Madara was taking hits from the Bijuus and said he lost his grace knowing that he has Hashirama's healing abilities. If Madara can take hits from the Bijuus then Hashirama who has the Sage body can take punches and kicks from Madara and limbo has a limit to their use as Sasuke pointed out. Also Hashirama can fight at a distant as we seen him do. He fought using his ninja weapons and his wood jutsus while he see Madara using his ninja weapons, Kurama and his PS. We did not see what happened earlier in that fight.

Madara EMS was fodder.
Clearly not when he has the power to beat the 5 kages neg to low diff and beats EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto together since they never mastered their abilities and lack the skills.

Thats a rinnegab tech
If it was then we would have seen Nagato who had the Rinnegan for over 30 and mastered all of it's powers including being able to use all 6 elements. Obito had one of Madara's eyes and was using it skillfully and was even the Juubi Jin and nothing brought out Limbo.
 

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lol you rock. seems sasuke can't do anything alone. no wonder he's the weakest reincarnation of indra who was supposed to be a loner
He might be right about the legs part, so I +rep him.

However, saying he's the weakest Indra reincarnation is pure hate. He's the only Indra incarnation who we know for sure defeated Ashura's. When did Maddie do that more exactly? And with his own powers?
 
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He might be right about the legs part, so I +rep him.

However, saying he's the weakest Indra reincarnation is pure hate. He's the only Indra incarnation who defeated Ashura's. When did Maddie do that more exactly? And with his own powers?
i suppose you are right about sasuke having beaten a ashura reincarnation after getting his quick power up from orochimaru and then having that power up strengthened by the sound 5 while he slept…lol oh sauce *_*
 

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i suppose you are right about sasuke having beaten a ashura reincarnation after getting his quick power up from orochimaru and then having that power up strengthened by the sound 5 while he slept…lol oh sauce *_*
While Maddie lost to Hashirama having an EMS from his brother. Irony's a *****, isn't it?
Not to forget, the freakin STRONGEST TAILED BEAST...
 
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Sasuke being the weakest reincarnation... even when BZ says he is the strongest one... i can't even.

Wait, a Madara fan complaining about Sasuke having borrowed powers, oh the irony Lol
 
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While Maddie lost to Hashirama having an EMS from his brother. Irony's a *****, isn't it?
wait so we are considering EMS a free power up that takes no training to control? yeah man sounds like you aren't just reaching for something. i didn't take sasukes ems away. in fact ems sasuke got one paneled after being given more then enough time to do something. also you say madara got free power ups but he actually worked for every single one of them. not just woke up in the morning with a new power like sasuke. curse mark: got bitten fainted and then woke up with a new power. MS: itachi threw the fight sasuke fainted heard a story unlocked it. EMS: went blind in one day talked to tobi woke up with EMS. rennigan: gets slaughtered in one panel woke up with it. lmao
 

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wait so we are considering EMS a free power up that takes no training to control? yeah man sounds like you aren't just reaching for something. i didn't take sasukes ems away. in fact ems sasuke got one paneled after being given more then enough time to do something. also you say madara got free power ups but he actually worked for every single one of them. not just woke up in the morning with a new power like sasuke. curse mark: got bitten fainted and then woke up with a new power. MS: itachi threw the fight sasuke fainted heard a story unlocked it. EMS: went blind in one day talked to tobi woke up with EMS. rennigan: gets slaughtered in one panel woke up with it. lmao
1. I also forgot to mention Kurama.
2. Are you denying Sasuke's a hard worker?
3. How's the way Sasuke obtained EMS any different from the way Maddie obtained it is beyond me.
4. Every Maddie fanboy will bring that Maddie stabbing Sasuke argument in discussion. If I'll bring Sasuke cutting Maddie in half argument you'll react badly most likely. Thing is, I prefer the way Sasuke obtained the Rinnegan, mainly because it's not stolen, it's just been unlocked for him. Stealing powers isn't more honorable than having them unlocked for you in any way imo.
 

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i suppose you are right about sasuke having beaten a ashura reincarnation after getting his quick power up from orochimaru and then having that power up strengthened by the sound 5 while he slept…lol oh sauce *_*
Your hate on Sasuke is bias.Sasuke was kicking Naruto's ass without the CM,and that was while Naruto was in Kyuubi Mode.


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And Sasuke could of beaten Naruto without the CM up til Naruto went One Tail Kyuubi.He only used the CM cause he wanted to test out his new power from it.
 

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i suppose you are right about sasuke having beaten a ashura reincarnation after getting his quick power up from orochimaru and then having that power up strengthened by the sound 5 while he slept…lol oh sauce *_*
Your hate on Sasuke is bias.Sasuke was kicking Naruto's ass without the CM,and that was while Naruto was in Kyuubi Mode.


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And at the begining of part 2 Naruto didn't stand a chance against Naruto.

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And Sasuke could of beaten Naruto without the CM up til Naruto went One Tail Kyuubi.He only used the CM cause he wanted to test out his new power from it.
 

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1. I also forgot to mention Kurama.
2. Are you denying Sasuke's a hard worker?
3. How's the way Sasuke obtained EMS any different from the way Maddie obtained it is beyond me.
4. Every Maddie fanboy will bring that Maddie stabbing Sasuke argument in discussion. If I'll bring Sasuke cutting Maddie in half argument you'll react badly most likely. Thing is, I prefer the way Sasuke obtained the Rinnegan, mainly because it's not stolen, it's just been unlocked for him.
1.oh taming a tailed beast is a free power up? tell me more about you talking out of your ass
2. eh 50/50 loved sasuke part 1 and how he trained with naruto like when they were learning how to climb trees would consider him hard worker. start of part 2 i consider him the guy who finds the best places to sleep in cause he wakes up stronger every time but not a hard worker.
3. no different GG lol
4. heres the difference sasuke died and had to be rescued by a character we thought long lost while madara was implanting an eye into himself when sasuke did this and guess what…madara didn't even feel it and came back next chapter. sasukes only feat was hindering madara i really hope you guys feel better at night because of it

EDIT: actually wish kishi had included a sasuke training arc while he was with orochimaru like they showed naruto training with yamato. i wish i could consider him a hard worker. don't blame me blame kiss for bad writing. if oda had helped him write naruto id probably love sasuke
 
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Your hate on Sasuke is bias.Sasuke was kicking Naruto's ass without the CM,and that was while Naruto was in Kyuubi Mode.


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And at the begining of part 2 Naruto didn't stand a chance against Naruto.

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And Sasuke could of beaten Naruto without the CM up til Naruto went One Tail Kyuubi.He only used the CM cause he wanted to test out his new power from it.
the VOTE battle isn't even whats being discussed sasuke had been stronger then naruto since the academy I'm not debating this. and for the academy scan you showed eh kinda unfair sasuke is an uchiha kid and a genius naruto was a scrub lol no chance. like lee vs neji
 

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Sage Harshirama and EMS Madara are Equal deal with it

Proof madara lost kyuubi in the middle of the fight now ems madara is all alone 1 on 1 against harshirama tell your self how did madara survie without kyuubi if harshirama is stronger.

Madara lost because he did not go in the intent to kill harshirama while harshirama felt he needed to kill madara because he cound not keep him under control
 

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1.oh taming a tailed beast is a free power up? tell me more about you talking out of your ass
2. eh 50/50 loved sasuke part 1 and how he trained with naruto like when they were learning how to climb trees would consider him hard worker. start of part 2 i consider him the guy who finds the best places to sleep in cause he wakes up stronger every time but not a hard worker.
3. no different GG lol
4. heres the difference sasuke died and had to be rescued by a character we thought long lost while madara was implanting an eye into himself when sasuke did this and guess what…madara didn't even feel it and came back next chapter. sasukes only feat was hindering madara i really hope you guys feel better at night because of it
1. That's not the point. You were saying he's the weakest Indra reincarnation despite the fact that he defeated Asura's incarnation, who also happened to be Kurama's jin. Maddie on the other hand, is in your view, the strongest Indra incarnation despite the fact that he had Kurama and still lost to Asura's.

2. Sasuke was a very hard worker until killing Orochimaru. Then he went ahead with his goals and didn't have as much time to train as before of course.

3. You said it not me:
EMS: went blind in one day talked to tobi woke up with EMS.
It's not different in any possible way.

4. I could say the same thing, Maddie stabbing Sasuke didn't kill him, therefore you can stay happy with basically nothing.


Sage Harshirama and EMS Madara are Equal deal with it

Proof madara lost kyuubi in the middle of the fight now ems madara is all alone 1 on 1 against harshirama tell your self how did madara survie without kyuubi if harshirama is stronger.

Madara lost because he did not go in the intent to kill harshirama while harshirama felt he needed to kill madara because he cound not keep him under control
I don't think he never intended to kill Hashirama, more like, he was aware that he can't so he decided to take what he needed. EMS Maddie being = Sage Hashirama is a joke.
 

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Let's see...

- Madara states that he will show Zetsu the full power of the Rinnegan and uses Limbo
- Limbo can only seen or sensed by the ones who have Hagoromo's chakra, and Rinnegan is a product of Hagoromo's chakra
- When he obtained another Rinnegan, Limbo clones multiplied

It would honestly make no sense if it was a EMS ability, why else he never used before obtaining his real Rinnegans?
That doesn't mean Limbo is a Rinnegan jutsu, Zetsu was talking about how long Madara would take to seal the Bijuus then Madara said that then summoned the Gedo that took all of the Bijuus. He could have been talking about what comes after Limbo as he was setting up the Gedo. Madara was never serious in the war so why would he used it? He called the fight with the 5 kages child play so why would he use limbo on them? He wanted to have fun.

Nagato wasn't able to fulfill the prerequisite's of using Rinnegan to it's full extent; the dōryoku require strong yīn energy, that can be only found from the Uchiha, while the opposite that is the Senju and Uzumaki only wield the strong yáng energy . However, although an Uchiha normally can unlock access to these eyes, it's not something any individual can handle [hence why Obito never used it]. Madara was much more skillful and had more power to control it.
Nagato was called a path of the Sage, meaning he beyond both Senju or Uchiha singly as were Obito and Madara who both were a Path of the Sage. Yin yang> yin alone. Nagato would have usage of Limbo which is only a jutsu, Madara showed to use the Rinnegan jutsus stronger so that's all that would change as Nagato was blasting giant toads miles from Deva path but Madara was pulling down meteors.

off with that, limbo? seriously? he couldn't thou limbo against the five kages even though he had a rinnegan then
Why would he? They were nothing to him, he wanted to have some fun and that's why he called it child's play. He made 25 wood clone and even asked if they wanted the clones to use Susanoo or not. Madara was never serious in any fight as a Edo. He was ya using any Rinnegan jutsu but to absorb ninjutsu and that's only because he was playing and not going for any kills as he would do if he was serious.

EMS Sasuke has more feats. He doesn't have PS, but he's got Susanoo with legs + Enton.
Madara has leg Susanoo, PS, Stronger Katon jutsus, his fan that reflects all attacks, more speed, physical strength, durability, stamina, knowledge of jutsus, battle experiences, summoning Kurama that can combine with his PS, putting A in a genjutsu (he used his EMS to do so).

If Limbo is his MS tech, he would have fodderized Hashirama neg diff at VoTE. So nope.
How so? Madara took hits from the Bijuus and healed because of Hashirama's healing abilities so Hashirama would just strug off the punch or kick the Limbo does. Also they were fighting at a distance using ing their wood jutsus and Kurama when we seen them. Also limbo has a time limit, if anything the Juubi power or Hashirama DNA lessen that time limit as it did with Danzo's KA. Having a strong jutsu doesn't mean you win, look at other MS jutsus such as Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, KA, Susanoo, and Kamui; are these not strong jutsus? Yet we see or know the users can't beat everyone they come against.
 

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1. That's not the point. You were saying he's the weakest Indra reincarnation despite the fact that he defeated Asura's incarnation, who also happened to be Kurama's jin. Maddie on the other hand, is in your view, the strongest Indra incarnation despite the fact that he had Kurama and still lost to Asura's.

2. Sasuke was a very hard worker until killing Orochimaru. Then he went ahead with his goals and didn't have as much time to train as before of course.

3. You said it not me:
It's not different in any possible way.

4. I could say the same thing, Maddie stabbing Sasuke didn't kill him, therefore you can stay happy with basically nothing.




I don't think he never intended to kill Hashirama, more like, he was aware that he can't so he decided to take what he needed. EMS Maddie being = Sage Hashirama is a joke.
As per you Killing by clone distraction when madara back is turned is a Straight defeat so in this way it mean's according to you he is better than ems madara

Madara could have also Tricked harshirama if he wanted deal with it
Madara did not kill harshi because for him to get stronger fighting with him Man deal with it

Now see when Edo Madara and Edo Harshiram was fighting and this Madara did not get Tricked but he Tricked harshi
 
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As per you Killing by clone distraction when madara back is turned is a Straight defeat so in this way it mean's according to you he is better than ems madara

Madara could have also Tricked harshirama if he wanted deal with it
Madara only keept harsh because for him to get stronger fighting with him Man deal with it

Now see when Edo Madara and Edo Harshiram was fighting and this Madara did not get Tricked but he Tricked harshi
Deal with it implies that I have a problem with it. I don't have a problem with fanfics. Any serious Maddie fan admits that Hashi > Maddie. I don't see where the biggie is. I can say that current Naruto > current Sasuke no problem.
 

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1. That's not the point. You were saying he's the weakest Indra reincarnation despite the fact that he defeated Asura's incarnation, who also happened to be Kurama's jin. Maddie on the other hand, is in your view, the strongest Indra incarnation despite the fact that he had Kurama and still lost to Asura's.

2. Sasuke was a very hard worker until killing Orochimaru. Then he went ahead with his goals and didn't have as much time to train as before of course.

3. You said it not me:
It's not different in any possible way.

4. I could say the same thing, Maddie stabbing Sasuke didn't kill him, therefore you can stay happy with basically nothing.




I don't think he never intended to kill Hashirama, more like, he was aware that he can't so he decided to take what he needed. EMS Maddie being = Sage Hashirama is a joke.
ok if you seriously think sasuke wasnt gonna die before being saved you are delusional. madara legitimately didn't feel anything from sasukes attack don't get things twisted just cause sasuke didn't die in the end from some asspull plot no jutsu. also you keep saying he beat ashuras reincarnation which he did no denying that. but he beat him years ago with a super emotional naruto. currently naruto stomps him into the ground. madara and hashirama also fought their entire lives which means madara won some of those fights as well or else there would be no reason for kishi to have stated that the senju and uchiha were equal and when someone hired the senju the other would hire the uchiha. why would people keep hiring madara and his clan if he's always losing? so yeah madara beat hashi at some point he just couldn't kill him.

put naruto against sasuke now so you can see how a properly trained naruto will sh*t on sasuke and his one win
 
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