Madara's MS ability is...

[Madarauchiwa]

As a matter of fact, if that person would give me a fight each time, in spite of losing every time, I would.

hmm i suppose i would to if it was a good fight. still the economical reason of hiring a repetitive loser still stands it makes no sense

 

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It was Black Zetsu, and it applies in this context as well. At least in that case, it was hinted that Itachi's invincible. The fact that you say Maddie defeated Hashirama several times before VOTE battle is pure fanfic, as it was never even slightly hinted.

When Madara lost kyuubi in th fight of hashrama. Harshirama still could not defeat madara why? It should be easy for harshirama to defeat madara if you say harshi is stronger

i am not favoring madara here

 

[Madarauchiwa]

damn…TFW i haven't been excited for a naruto chapter since the gai and madara fight. id be so pumped during every page of it :'(

 

[KisuneUchiha]

That's still Limbo, having a clone that no one can see or sense unless they have the Sage power is strong. Also Madara and Obito stated the Sharingan's full power is when both eyes are together and that's why we see Madara have 4 clones after he got both eye.



How so? Limbo does physical damage and Hashirama has healing abilities which Madara showed more than once after he was revived. Madara was taking hits from the Bijuus and said he lost his grace knowing that he has Hashirama's healing abilities. If Madara can take hits from the Bijuus then Hashirama who has the Sage body can take punches and kicks from Madara and limbo has a limit to their use as Sasuke pointed out. Also Hashirama can fight at a distant as we seen him do. He fought using his ninja weapons and his wood jutsus while he see Madara using his ninja weapons, Kurama and his PS. We did not see what happened earlier in that fight.



Clearly not when he has the power to beat the 5 kages neg to low diff and beats EMS Sasuke and BSM Naruto together since they never mastered their abilities and lack the skills.



If it was then we would have seen Nagato who had the Rinnegan for over 30 and mastered all of it's powers including being able to use all 6 elements. Obito had one of Madara's eyes and was using it skillfully and was even the Juubi Jin and nothing brought out Limbo.

@Bold "The true powers of the eyes comes out when they are with their original owners"~ Obito Uchiha [To Sakura]

Nagato and Obito were not the original owners of the Rinnegan eyes, therefore could not access ALL of the original abilities. But they made use of the abilities that they COULD use and made it their own, thus making Rinnegan OP in its own right.

 

[Madarauchiwa]

BOLDED: He never said Sasuke > Maddie at that moment. He said Sasuke had more potential/talent. Which is true IMO. Also, Oro is definitely one of the smartest persons this manga has, even tho you might not agree it, because he's a Sasuke fan. But I'm pretty sure he is not having biased opinions just because of that.

nah i agree with oro being one of the smartest and i agree sauce has potential but i don't see him surpassing madara till he's like 35 and even then he might just be tied up with madara

 

[TwistedSmile]

i was thinking shed be boss but doesn't opening the 8th gate focus all your chakra on your heart or something? leaving you like unable to use other jutsu? idk just guessing

Ye, but her base strenght + 8th gate unbelievable boost would make her a real boss Lol. That'd be pretty awesome to see.

 

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Sasuke failed 2 times to kill madara

First:
Amaterasu

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Second:
He got Sord in his chest Instantly from madara

 

[TwistedSmile]

nah i agree with oro being one of the smartest and i agree sauce has potential but i don't see him surpassing madara till he's like 35 and even then he might just be tied up with madara

Yeah, Maddie is definitely a legend, not only of Uchiha's but also of the shinobi world. That's the cool thing about legends imo. Just like in sport or in music. There are legendary figures, but each legend must be surpassed at some points. Each generation must have its hero. Hence why I'd like Sasuke to surpass Maddie. It's not because I hate Maddie, it's actually the opposite. I respect him and I'd like to see my fav char being up there.

 

[Madarauchiwa]

Yeah, Maddie is definitely a legend, not only of Uchiha's but also of the shinobi world. That's the cool thing about legends imo. Just like in sport or in music. There are legendary figures, but each legend must be surpassed at some points. Each generation must have its hero. Hence why I'd like Sasuke to surpass Maddie. It's not because I hate Maddie, it's actually the opposite. I respect him and I'd like to see my fav char being up there.

you might be my favorite sasuke fan. most seem to think sasuke is already on madara level and thats simply not true even tho one day he can reach those heights now is not that time. madara showed to much prowess imo to be beaten by anyone of this generation in a 1v1 just yet

EDIT: its sad that we'll never see them get to that lvl tho cause there won't be a part 3. and even if there was with a like 30 year old sasuke and naruto if they reach madara and hashi power there will be none to oppose them and having kishi pull a random villain out of his buttocks would seriously hurt me and make me quit this

 

[TwistedSmile]

you might be my favorite sasuke fan. most seem to think sasuke is already on madara level and thats simply not true even tho one day he can reach those heights now is not that time. madara showed to much prowess imo to be beaten by anyone of this generation in a 1v1 just yet

EDIT: its sad that we'll never see them get to that lvl tho cause there won't be a part 3. and even if there was with a like 30 year old sasuke and naruto if they reach madara and hashi power there will be none to oppose them and having kishi pull a random villain out of his buttocks would seriously hurt me and make me quit this

Indeed, a part 3 is totally unnecessary. This manga reached its limit. This War brought together the most legendary figures in the Narutoverse, from both the past and present. Another child of the prophecy thingie would kill what Naruto meant for everyone. It's better for this manga to die in glory rather than keep living in misery imo.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

That's still Limbo, having a clone that no one can see or sense unless they have the Sage power is strong. Also Madara and Obito stated the Sharingan's full power is when both eyes are together and that's why we see Madara have 4 clones after he got both eye.

That's why it's illogical for EMS Madara to have Limbo.
Madara with one eye did this: [

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One eye amounts to one Limbo clone, while two amounts to four. If EMS Madara was truly able to use Limbo, there was no way he would lose to Hashirama.

 

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Madara MS abilities remain not realived only krishi knows

 

[Xāvî1]

That's a Rinnegan ability for sure. It seems Madara's MS ability prior to Susano'o will never be shown feat wise.

Very true and there is another reason why he couldn't show us any MS tech other than susanoo bcos he used one of his ems for izanagi

 

[xxSAGExx]

@Bold "The true powers of the eyes comes out when they are with their original owners"~ Obito Uchiha [To Sakura]

Nagato and Obito were not the original owners of the Rinnegan eyes, therefore could not access ALL of the original abilities. But they made use of the abilities that they COULD use and made it their own, thus making Rinnegan OP in its own right.

That wouldn't make sense, allow Nagato to master all of the Rinnegan's power but 1 jutsu? Limbo isn't even the strongest, Deva path is the strongest since it's much faster and stronger when the original user uses it so it has no 5 sec interval and it stops all attacks plus it has C.T with it as well. Limbo clones showed to have a limit that they can be out and before they can be used again. So EMS Madara limit of having his out would be less than Rikudo Madara and the limit before he can use them again as well. Like Shisui KA could only be used every 10 years unless you have Hashirama DNA.

Madara didn't have his Rinnegan longer than Nagato had it so if Madara managed to learn Limbo with the Rinnegan then it wouldn't be hard for Nagato to do it when he had it longer than Madara. Nagato was using all 6 elements as a kid and that's one of the Rinnegan's best abilities since it allows you to use any jutsu and it was this power that Obito used to make his black jinton like weapons to cut through Sasuke Susanoo. So the ability to use wood, jinton, boiling, ice, lava, storm, ect... Is better than using the Limbo which is a close range jutsu. It makes no sense for a jutsu lower than jutsus and abilities that Nagato had to not be awakened as well. Also Madara taught Obito his Sage jutsus so if that was one of them then why didn't a Obito use it? No reason to teach him how to use the 6 elements ability which he used on Susanoo but not 1 jutsu.

That's why it's illogical for EMS Madara to have Limbo.
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One eye amounts to one Limbo clone, while two amounts to four. If EMS Madara was truly able to use Limbo, there was no way he would lose to Hashirama.

You're missing the point, we know MS jutsus can have a range and time limit. KA can be used without eye contact but can only be used once every 10 years. Kamui can't warp large objects unless you have a lot of chakra and needs to be used very close when the eye gets more blind as Kakashi shown. Tsukuyomi needs eye contact. So what makes you think Limbo didn't have a longer time limit before it can be used and a shorter time that the clone can be out? KA can be used more with Hashirama DNA and it helped Obito's Kamui as well. So what makes you think Hashirama's DNA which have him Ashura's chakra which gave him the power of the Sage not improve Limbo time limit and power when we seen other MS jutsus do it?

EMS Madara could of had 2 Limbos and Hashirama DNA and the Sage power improved it to 4 overall as the Sage power improved Sage's PS to make it fly. Madara used PS with his Rinnegan as an Edo and that didn't let him fly, of course he wasn't one bit serious in that fight with the a Kages but he didn't fly against Edo Hashirama. Also you make it sound like Limbo hit harder than 9 Bijuus which all were smacking Madara around yet he said Hashirama healing ability made him careless so Hashirama would just heal from all of Limbo's punch and kicks plus that's a close range jutsu since they go back to the body after a few. Hashirama was shown fighting long distance on his wood mostly.

 

[salamander uchiha]

A 17 year old Sasuke has the feats to match those the world feared so much.

Orochimaru disagrees apart from arsepulls.
accoding to kishi he is invinciboe excluding arsepulls.
But minato is still fodder.

 

[Sunagura]

If limbo is madara MS tech than he would have own all the senju

 

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Rinnegan is the key for limbo technique .​

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Madara's MS abilities are useless to him.

And ems sasuke does have PS.

 

[xxSAGExx]

If limbo is madara MS tech than he would have own all the senju

No, like I said before his Limbo with MS and EMS may have been weaker and it got stronger with Hashirama DNA which gave Madara the Sage's power (Rinnegan) plus he became the Juubi Jin as well. KA was only about to be used once every 10 years but Hashirama DNA allows you to use KA much faster. Same think with Limbo and Limbo does have time limits that it can be used and how long it can be used. Hashirama mostly attacks mid to long range by sending his wood jutsus towards his opponents. Also Hashirama ha healing abilities which Madara used to take hits from all 9 Bijuus which would be much stronger than Limbo clones punching and kicking you.