Nothing implies Madara can take them out, considering someone a level above him was worried about fighting them together. Naruto was holding his own against Kaguya, someone a level above Madara. He isn't beating Sasuke and Naruto together, not by feats or any kind of portrayal or hype.
@TB/Rasengan parts Naruto's destructive prowess is irrelevant here as Obito just has to get intangible to counter any incoming TB. Naruto might be able to fireoff rasengans quicker, but thats fodder as Obito could Kamui himself, the tree and the bijuudamas together to nullify the incoming Rasengans and then unleash his now charged bombs, as my quote proved.
each of them being more than capable of doding any attempts of kamui, and with naruto now having intel on kamui, he can use his clones to attack obito the moment he solidifies to attack, as these several clones completely disrupt obitos kamui based moveset,
as for the TBB, naruto can counter them through his BDRS, Bijuu RS, and his
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Naruto has more than enough firepower to overpower Obito, and he definitely has the diversions as well as speed to easily counter kamui which really isnt helping obito here,
furthermore, Obitos dimension travelling is still fodder in comparison to kaguya, who is not only fast enough to easily counter kamui, but can also escape from the kamui dimension with ease,
Naruto does not have any TSB feats of defending himself so thats irrelevant, Obito can stomp Kaguya alone, Madara will take care of Naruto & Sasuke.
what more do you want,
he has also used them for various purposes
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, as its obvious that he can use
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thereby also negating the TBB
@Bold - Lol please,
Her chakra punches that busted sasukes PS, alone would wreck him, her dimensional travelling also takes a dump on Obitos, and the fact that she can negate ninjutsu means that obitos TBB are also meaningless against her, meaning that obito literally has no way whatsoever to even stand a chance against her, let alone stomp her
Lmao, Limbo is not > everything. Characters with Rikudo chakra/Rikudo's Senjutsu can damage the Limbo clones. If a clone gets damaged eventually that damage reverts to the real body.
Don't get me wrong, it's one of the most OP abilities in NV, but it's not invincible.
Hagoromo admited in the manga he was out of chakara after giving naruto and rsasuke a boostup
and still sasuke and naruto coul not beat a 1 eye weakend madara
Of course it did not. But this fight is plot-armor free as I mentionned . Or do you really believe in BSM Naruto & EMS Sasuke's victory over a Juubi jinchuriki?
Limbo gets stalemated by his own clones, or Kaguya handles Madara and his clones by herself, or Sasuke handles Limbo while Kaguya handles Madara and Obito handles Naruto.
Laughable. First, Limbo cannot be stalemated by RSM Naruto Clones. Shinju 3 Eyed Rinnegan is far, far above Naruto, and his limbos clones are just a copy of him, so this is not 1eyed Madara's limbos we are talking about, we're talking about that.
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Double Rinnegan Madara did not move an inch and repelled both Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke with a considerable force neg diff, so no, the limbos arent ever getting stalemated. Plus you're arguing like Madara would let them take out the limbos and wait until his clones are all dead, nope. Sasuke himself couldnt even scratch one while both naruto & sakura was attacking Madara, in a 3vs1 position, him doing anything to Madara in a 1vs1 is hilarious , and even more funny also considering the number of gudodamas the duo possess to guard the limbos too in a case of threat. Kaguya cannot do anything to it too, please , someone getting owned by current naruto , who couldnt scratch 3 eyed Madara in a 3vs1 fight wont do much . Kaguya has no taijutsu feats , she just has her chakra arms, which gets easily absorbed by preta path, negated by TSB, or repelled by the duo's own chakra arms.
Kamui is no issue either, vastly superior Speed and clones handle that. And Naruto>Sasuke, so no, he isn't the weakest.
I said Obito was the weakest in the duo, I wasnt talking about them. But yes , kamui wont get bypassed, Obito doesnt have to rely on it since he's the Juubi jinchuriki but in case of incoming threat that cannot be negated by tsb or evaded, he'll just kamui himself near instantly . Obito also has his mangekyo sharingan and will easily track his opponents moves.
Of course I don't agree. Kaguya was stated to be above Madara, and Naruto and Sauske, especially Naruto, can counter everything in his arsenal.
You have double standarts though . Feats are above hype man, Double rinnegan Madara is stated to be invincible too , why do you overlook that the ? Kaguya isnt intouchable as current Naruto feats against her proved , a sexy jutsu on her worked and she got a hard punch bevause of it, with Madara instead she would have received a fatal blow. All the "Hagoromo said" talks are irrelevant.. Feats > Hype
Im curious to how you think Madara survives Kaguya pulling him to the Genesis Dimension, and hitting him with this:
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Kaguya has already demonstrated that in fights with multiple opponents she is more than willing to separate them. By sending Madara to her genesis dimension and defeating him separately, that give naruto and sasuke a easier time defeating obito.
Obito couldnt simply go save madara because he wouldnt know what dimension she took them to.
Thats a pretty nice scan but this has no feats yet. Did you even read the conditions?
Madara cannot be pulled anywhere as he has the reactions and reflexe feats to avoid it.
each of them being more than capable of doding any attempts of kamui, and with naruto now having intel on kamui, he can use his clones to attack obito the moment he solidifies to attack, as these several clones completely disrupt obitos kamui based moveset,
as for the TBB, naruto can counter them through his BDRS, Bijuu RS, and his
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Naruto has more than enough firepower to overpower Obito, and he definitely has the diversions as well as speed to easily counter kamui which really isnt helping obito here,
furthermore, Obitos dimension travelling is still fodder in comparison to kaguya, who is not only fast enough to easily counter kamui, but can also escape from the kamui dimension with ease,
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what more do you want,
he has also used them for various purposes
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, as its obvious that he can use
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thereby also negating the TBB
@Bold - Lol please,
Her chakra punches that busted sasukes PS, alone would wreck him, her dimensional travelling also takes a dump on Obitos, and the fact that she can negate ninjutsu means that obitos TBB are also meaningless against her, meaning that obito literally has no way whatsoever to even stand a chance against her, let alone stomp her
First of all I am not even mentioning Long distance Kamui , I am talking about defensive kamui, intangibility and defensive teleport to kamuiland. Naruto chopped the god tree which is an amazing destruction feat, but this feat or the god tree's durability is irrelevant here as it cannot do anything to kamui and thats my point. Obito can makes him intangible and teleport anywhere, so 6 super rasengans or 1000 are negated by kamui's prowess as it cannot touch him. What will the clones do? Try to take him down like War Arc Obito? Lol , even if Naruto could by miracle figure out a tactic this is Juubi jin Obito we are talking here , he wont be getting sleepy if kamui gets bypassed right? TSB shield would negates the kamui flaw immediately.
I also mentionned everybody here has his current feats bro, did you read the conditions.... Naruto doesnt have any defensive feats with the gudodamas yet and him be able to replicate the Juubi jinchuriki's manipulation prowess is speculation and thats all ...
@ Sasuke's susanoo, last time I checked Sasuke's PS is tiny and has no defensive feats beside the Kaguya fight , so we cannot evaluate Kaguya's chakra arms power by just that, his Susanoo surely isnt as defensive and resistant as Madara as its way smaller and tinier. Plus, Madara and Obito could each stalemate her chakra arms with their owns.
Kaguya's ninjutsu invincibility is fodder and only hype as always, as shown in the current manga . Or,
Lmao, Limbo is not > everything. Characters with Rikudo chakra/Rikudo's Senjutsu can damage the Limbo clones. If a clone gets damaged eventually that damage reverts to the real body.
Don't get me wrong, it's one of the most OP abilities in NV, but it's not invincible.
Kamui teleportation and intangbility can easily be countered, especially seeing that Sasukes S/T jutsu is still faster than Kamui, and kaguyas can simply get herself to be sent in that dimension as from then on, Obito gets attacked from both the dimensions, not to mention that kaguya can then easily transport herself back to the real dimension,
furthermore, Naruto can also send off his several RSM clones that would completely disrupt obitos kamui based moveset, and on top of the fact that obito literally has no way of attacking kaguya at all, means that he gets buttraped, regardless of his kamui
Naruto chopped the god tree which is an amazing destruction feat, but this feat or the god tree's durability is irrelevant here as it cannot do anything to kamui and thats my point. Obito can makes him intangible and teleport anywhere, so 6 super rasengans or 1000 are negated by kamui's prowess as it cannot touch him. What will the clones do? Try to take him down like War Arc Obito? Lol , even if Naruto could by miracle figure out a tactic this is Juubi jin Obito we are talking here , he wont be getting sleepy if kamui gets bypassed right? TSB shield would negates the kamui flaw immediately.
This post is quite wrong,
first of all, naruto has intel on kamui, meaning that he wont be attacking obito stupidly and let him phase through his attacks, naruto simply creates many clones, with each of them being able to evade all the warps and can completely disrupt obitos kamui, seeing how the moment obito manifests physically to attack, the other 30 or so RSM clones would be attacking him,
and his RSM form is indeed quite fast
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on top of the fact that
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makes this speed feat take a dump on kamui,
naruto takes a dump on kamui due to the fact that he is faster than all the kamui warps, and faster than juubito, his reflexes are also higher than obitos and he has the diversions to counter kamui, as well as the firepower to damage juubito
I also mentionned everybody here has his current feats bro, did you read the conditions.... Naruto doesnt have any defensive feats with the gudodamas yet and him be able to replicate the Juubi jinchuriki's manipulation prowess is speculation and thats all ...
What do you mean he dooesnt have his defensive feats from TSB???
he has them just like obito, madarar and hagoromo, its common sense that he can use them to negate ninjutsu
furthermore naruto is on the same tier as juubi jins, yet you claim that naruto wont be able to use TSB to an extent of a juubi jin, Lol
not to mention that he received power directly from hagoromo,
@ Sasuke's susanoo, last time I checked Sasuke's PS is tiny and has no defensive feats beside the Kaguya fight , so we cannot evaluate Kaguya's chakra arms power by just that, his Susanoo surely isnt as defensive and resistant as Madara as its way smaller and tinier. Plus, Madara and Obito could each stalemate her chakra arms with their owns.
like butter, furthermore susanoo can always withstand much more energy than its output, meaning that sasukes PS can tank his own slashes rather easily,
and with kaguyas chakkra punches destroying his PS (which could tank his own island chopping slashes), means that her chakra punchess would wreck obito with ease,
as for the Bold, Lol, Sasukes PS >>> EMS Madaras,
sasukes PS is boosted by half of hagoromos power, and the moon seal, madara on the other hand, has no boosts in his susanoo, on top of the fact that his PS was destroyed by Chojo Kobetsu, and the best offensive feat it has is cutting mountains, whereas sasukes PS is ALOT more mobile and powerful
Sasuke and Naruto defeat Madara, whilst kaguya wrecks juubito,, the uchihas are not standing any chance whatsoever
Kaguya's ninjutsu invincibility is fodder and only hype as always, as shown in the current manga . Or,
Lol, she is the strongest character and has been stateed to be stronger than even the sage, as stated by himself,
i would take the mans and the mangas words, in this case,
and even if we go by feats, she wrecks both of them rather easily,
Kamui teleportation and intangbility can easily be countered, especially seeing that Sasukes S/T jutsu is still faster than Kamui, and kaguyas can simply get herself to be sent in that dimension as from then on, Obito gets attacked from both the dimensions, not to mention that kaguya can then easily transport herself back to the real dimension,
furthermore, Naruto can also send off his several RSM clones that would completely disrupt obitos kamui based moveset, and on top of the fact that obito literally has no way of attacking kaguya at all, means that he gets buttraped, regardless of his kamui
This post is quite wrong,
first of all, naruto has intel on kamui, meaning that he wont be attacking obito stupidly and let him phase through his attacks, naruto simply creates many clones, with each of them being able to evade all the warps and can completely disrupt obitos kamui, seeing how the moment obito manifests physically to attack, the other 30 or so RSM clones would be attacking him,
and his RSM form is indeed quite fast
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on top of the fact that
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makes this speed feat take a dump on kamui,
naruto takes a dump on kamui due to the fact that he is faster than all the kamui warps, and faster than juubito, his reflexes are also higher than obitos and he has the diversions to counter kamui, as well as the firepower to damage juubito
..... All this is irrelevant as you're only debating on long distance kamui or warps , I state intagibility . Juubi jin obito moveset and arsenal wont be based on Kamui , he simply can use it defensively to negate any massive AOE attacks and threats, or teleport him & Madara to kamuiland to figure out strategies etc . It seems you imagine its still war arc obito we are talking about here , but we're not.
What do you mean he dooesnt have his defensive feats from TSB???
he has them just like obito, madarar and hagoromo, its common sense that he can use them to negate ninjutsu
furthermore naruto is on the same tier as juubi jins, yet you claim that naruto wont be able to use TSB to an extent of a juubi jin, Lol
not to mention that he received power directly from hagoromo,
I mean what I've said and stated in my thread bro . Naruto doesn't have any defensive with it and him being able to have the same manipulation prowess of a Juubi Jinchuriki is speculation and hype, that's all . As I said, this fight is based off FEATS and I wont have made a 3 vs 2 thread including Kaguya if it was not. Naruto received some of Hagoromo's chakra and technique and thats all , that does not makes him automatically on the same level of juubi jins with TSB Manipulation unless proven in the current manga and thats all. Naruto doesnt even have "half" of the Sage chakra, this is just fan's interpretation and I cannot follow you on that.
Size is irrelevant, Sasukes PS was chopping
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like butter, furthermore susanoo can always withstand much more energy than its output, meaning that sasukes PS can tank his own slashes rather easily,
and with kaguyas chakkra punches destroying his PS (which could tank his own island chopping slashes), means that her chakra punchess would wreck obito with ease,
as for the Bold, Lol, Sasukes PS >>> EMS Madaras,
sasukes PS is boosted by half of hagoromos power, and the moon seal, madara on the other hand, has no boosts in his susanoo, on top of the fact that his PS was destroyed by Chojo Kobetsu, and the best offensive feat it has is cutting mountains, whereas sasukes PS is ALOT more mobile and powerful
Sasuke and Naruto defeat Madara, whilst kaguya wrecks juubito,, the uchihas are not standing any chance whatsoever
Absolutely not , this logic is heavily flawed . Offensive prowess doesnt automatically follows defensive capability , Its like saying I could punch you and break your face with one punch so I could tank your punch straight to mine if you did it , well no and not automatically, chakra or not there is a difference between offence & defence.
Sasuke's PS only had the occasion to prove his feats and prowess, also by directly attacking the meteors, Madara's PS cutted multiples moutains without even touching it . Overlooking that shows me you're obviously biased.
Lol, she is the strongest character and has been stateed to be stronger than even the sage, as stated by himself,
i would take the mans and the mangas words, in this case,
and even if we go by feats, she wrecks both of them rather easily,
No she's not , as Madara would beat her. Madara is the strongest yet in this manga my friend , I already covered Kaguya's hype in my last post, and Naruto&Sasuke together cannot beat 3eyed Madara ever.
No , its not . I finished my counters and I am free to say whatever I want , and considering I dont even see whats your problem with my sentence, you seems to be a little bit rustled . In any case we are not obligated to debate .
Nah man, ur wrong here, Obito doesnt stand a chance regardless of his kamui
..... All this is irrelevant as you're only debating on long distance kamui or warps , I state intagibility . Juubi jin obito moveset and arsenal wont be based on Kamui , he simply can use it defensively to negate any massive AOE attacks and threats, or teleport him & Madara to kamuiland to figure out strategies etc . It seems you imagine its still war arc obito we are talking about here , but we're not.
Ive given u counters on intangbility,
Naruto creating many clones which have the speed to blitz obito would be very effective against him, he wont need to use his large scale attacks, since he knows about kamui and would know that it wont be effective,
his clones completely disrupt obiitos kamui based moveset and attack him the moment he solidifies,
moreover, obito cant jjust stay intangible and attack thats now how it works
as juubito would still have to activate kamui, and naruto here has the speed to blitz him, seeing how he blitzed kaguya who has superior reflexes to him, or at the very least, has reflexes comparable to him
not to mention that the only attack that obito has which is worth mentioning is TBB, and to do so, he needs to set up the tree and by that time, naruto can destroy the tree with ease through his BDRS or Bijuu RS
and @Bold - Lol for starters thats BFR, and secondly, do u seriously think that naruto and sasuke wont come up with a strategy when obito and madara are setting up their strategy??? Lol
I mean what I've said and stated in my thread bro . Naruto doesn't have any defensive with it and him being able to have the same manipulation prowess of a Juubi Jinchuriki is speculation and hype, that's all . As I said, this fight is based off FEATS and I wont have made a 3 vs 2 thread including Kaguya if it was not. Naruto received some of Hagoromo's chakra and technique and thats all , that does not makes him automatically on the same level of juubi jins with TSB Manipulation unless proven in the current manga and thats all. Naruto doesnt even have "half" of the Sage chakra, this is just fan's interpretation and I cannot follow you on that.
iif you want to restrict narutos use of TSB defense than state in the OP, otherwise he can use it,
Naruto can still match the TBB through his BDRS, so he doesnt need his TSB to negate them,
and like i said,
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and that gives naruto more than enough time to destroy the tree and damage juubto through his BDRS and Bijuu RS, and
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, with that being said, not only would narutos attacks land much quicker than obito
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which would overwhelm him or at the very least counter his attacks
@Bold - come on, Naruto held his own against kaguya,, and didnt even use half of his power against madara, how on earth does that not make him equivalent to juubi jins,
Absolutely not , this logic is heavily flawed . Offensive prowess doesnt automatically follows defensive capability , Its like saying I could punch you and break your face with one punch so I could tank your punch straight to mine if you did it , well no and not automatically, chakra or not there is a difference between offence & defence.
When it comes to susanoo then it does follow this logic, this isnt science this is the manga,
Madaras PS at the very most cuts mountains, we know that,
however
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by an attack (Chojo Kobetsu)
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that clearly implies that the durability of PS/Susanoo is much higher than its output,
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) by an attack thats even stronger than 11 of its own PS slashes, that were also combined with 11 TBB,
unless you believe that one PS slash can destroy PS (which is very wrong) then my point completely stands,
as the scans clearlly prove that the durability of PS is much higher than the energy it can withstand,
and the same logic would be applied to sasukes PS
Sasuke's PS only had the occasion to prove his feats and prowess, also by directly attacking the meteors, Madara's PS cutted multiples moutains without even touching it . Overlooking that shows me you're obviously biased.
Not really, im not biased here at all
the meteors that sasukes PS was chopping were much larger than the mountain tops that madaras PS severed,
furthermoore,
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compared to sasukes PS with the meteors
which leads to the conclusion that sasukes PS also had the shockwaves that allowed him to chop a target thats far larger than his PS blade,
and if Madaras PS was struck with those CT, then madara alongside his PS wouldve been dead since it doesnt have the feats to destroy islands, let alone island sized CT, nor does it have the durability to surivive an attack of this magnitude which takes a dump on Chojo Kobbetsu
No she's not , as Madara would beat her. Madara is the strongest yet in this manga my friend , I already covered Kaguya's hype in my last post, and Naruto&Sasuke together cannot beat 3eyed Madara ever.
Naruto and Sasuke countered everything that 3eyed madara did, narutos clones stalemated limbo, and
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, they did all of this without even using their full power,
as narutos BDRS alongside sasukes PS slashes would annhilate madara,
not to mention that
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, and would also strugglle against narutos top speed, therefore he is losing here,
as for kaguya, her portrayal and feats suggest that she is stronger than madara,
madara has literally no way of taking her out at all,
No , its not . I finished my counters and I am free to say whatever I want , and considering I dont even see whats your problem with my sentence, you seems to be a little bit rustled . In any case we are not obligated to debate .
You clearly rustled my jimmies there thats why i said its childish,
eithher way i dont care, since i despise kaguya as much as you do, but our opinions shouldnt affect that outcome of a battle in this section
Of course it did not. But this fight is plot-armor free as I mentionned . Or do you really believe in BSM Naruto & EMS Sasuke's victory over a Juubi jinchuriki?
They didn't solo him. In that one clash, they performed better, but overall Obito is much stronger, which was shown when he would have killed the alliance multiple times had it not been for someone besides Naruto or Sasuke alone.
Laughable. First, Limbo cannot be stalemated by RSM Naruto Clones. Shinju 3 Eyed Rinnegan is far, far above Naruto, and his limbos clones are just a copy of him, so this is not 1eyed Madara's limbos we are talking about, we're talking about that.
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Double Rinnegan Madara did not move an inch and repelled both Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke with a considerable force neg diff, so no, the limbos arent ever getting stalemated. Plus you're arguing like Madara would let them take out the limbos and wait until his clones are all dead, nope. Sasuke himself couldnt even scratch one while both naruto & sakura was attacking Madara, in a 3vs1 position, him doing anything to Madara in a 1vs1 is hilarious , and even more funny also considering the number of gudodamas the duo possess to guard the limbos too in a case of threat. Kaguya cannot do anything to it too, please , someone getting owned by current naruto , who couldnt scratch 3 eyed Madara in a 3vs1 fight wont do much . Kaguya has no taijutsu feats , she just has her chakra arms, which gets easily absorbed by preta path, negated by TSB, or repelled by the duo's own chakra arms.
All his Limbo do is use Taijutsu, unless his Taijutsu gets a big ass boost from getting his second eye back, Limbo won't do anything significant. Them getting blocked and pushed back means nothing since Naruto's clones proceeded to take on the Limbo, holding them off, on their own, so like I said. Naruto's clones handle Limbo.
Lol, Sasuke couldn't scratch one? He got blocked and pushed back, without using Susanoo, which isn't a good feat. If he entered Susanoo he'd rape every single clone without exception. Taijutsu isn't breaking Susanoo, and Limbo isn't tanking its blades either.
No, I'm not. I clearly stated that while someone handles the clones, the other handles Madara. Sasuke handles the clones, Naruto handles Obito, and Kaguya handles Madara. After Sasuke beats the clones, he can either go help Kaguya or Naruto, but either of them would mutilate their opponent on their own, so its irreleveant.
I said Obito was the weakest in the duo, I wasnt talking about them. But yes , kamui wont get bypassed, Obito doesnt have to rely on it since he's the Juubi jinchuriki but in case of incoming threat that cannot be negated by tsb or evaded, he'll just kamui himself near instantly . Obito also has his mangekyo sharingan and will easily track his opponents moves.
Naruto, Sasuke, and Kaguya all have jutsu that can't be negated by the Gudo Dama. Mainly Naruto since literally every jutsu he uses is powered by Rikudo Senjutsu. And yes, Kamui can be countered. MS hasn't shown the capability to track Naruto's speed, and Obito hasn't shown the capability to react. Base Rikudo Naruto was speed pressuring Juubi Jin Madara, pre Shinju absorption. Obito is slower and weaker than that. If Naruto uses his cloak along with one good Shunshin,
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happens to him, but Naruto goes for something more lethal.
You have double standarts though . Feats are above hype man, Double rinnegan Madara is stated to be invincible too , why do you overlook that the ? Kaguya isnt intouchable as current Naruto feats against her proved , a sexy jutsu on her worked and she got a hard punch bevause of it, with Madara instead she would have received a fatal blow. All the "Hagoromo said" talks are irrelevant.. Feats > Hype
Its not hype. Its a stated fact. Double Rinnegan Madara was thought to be invincible, then Kaguya came, and her power was assessed and Sasuke ended up saying that shes a level above Madara, backed up his and Naruto's assessments of her power, thus she is stronger and there is literally no debating it.
Nah man, ur wrong here, Obito doesnt stand a chance regardless of his kamui
Ive given u counters on intangbility,
Naruto creating many clones which have the speed to blitz obito would be very effective against him, he wont need to use his large scale attacks, since he knows about kamui and would know that it wont be effective,
his clones completely disrupt obiitos kamui based moveset and attack him the moment he solidifies,
moreover, obito cant jjust stay intangible and attack thats now how it works
as juubito would still have to activate kamui, and naruto here has the speed to blitz him, seeing how he blitzed kaguya who has superior reflexes to him, or at the very least, has reflexes comparable to him
not to mention that the only attack that obito has which is worth mentioning is TBB, and to do so, he needs to set up the tree and by that time, naruto can destroy the tree with ease through his BDRS or Bijuu RS
and @Bold - Lol for starters thats BFR, and secondly, do u seriously think that naruto and sasuke wont come up with a strategy when obito and madara are setting up their strategy??? Lol
iif you want to restrict narutos use of TSB defense than state in the OP, otherwise he can use it,
Naruto can still match the TBB through his BDRS, so he doesnt need his TSB to negate them,
and like i said,
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and that gives naruto more than enough time to destroy the tree and damage juubto through his BDRS and Bijuu RS, and
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, with that being said, not only would narutos attacks land much quicker than obito
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which would overwhelm him or at the very least counter his attacks
@Bold - come on, Naruto held his own against kaguya,, and didnt even use half of his power against madara, how on earth does that not make him equivalent to juubi jins,
When it comes to susanoo then it does follow this logic, this isnt science this is the manga,
Madaras PS at the very most cuts mountains, we know that,
however
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by an attack (Chojo Kobetsu)
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that clearly implies that the durability of PS/Susanoo is much higher than its output,
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) by an attack thats even stronger than 11 of its own PS slashes, that were also combined with 11 TBB,
unless you believe that one PS slash can destroy PS (which is very wrong) then my point completely stands,
as the scans clearlly prove that the durability of PS is much higher than the energy it can withstand,
and the same logic would be applied to sasukes PS
Not really, im not biased here at all
the meteors that sasukes PS was chopping were much larger than the mountain tops that madaras PS severed,
furthermoore,
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, meaning that his sword was also much smaller than the meteors therefore it accomplished a feat far greater than madaras PS, since his
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compared to sasukes PS with the meteors
which leads to the conclusion that sasukes PS also had the shockwaves that allowed him to chop a target thats far larger than his PS blade,
and if Madaras PS was struck with those CT, then madara alongside his PS wouldve been dead since it doesnt have the feats to destroy islands, let alone island sized CT, nor does it have the durability to surivive an attack of this magnitude which takes a dump on Chojo Kobbetsu
Naruto and Sasuke countered everything that 3eyed madara did, narutos clones stalemated limbo, and
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, they did all of this without even using their full power,
as narutos BDRS alongside sasukes PS slashes would annhilate madara,
not to mention that
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, and would also strugglle against narutos top speed, therefore he is losing here,
as for kaguya, her portrayal and feats suggest that she is stronger than madara,
madara has literally no way of taking her out at all,
You clearly rustled my jimmies there thats why i said its childish,
eithher way i dont care, since i despise kaguya as much as you do, but our opinions shouldnt affect that outcome of a battle in this section
Use your brains Madara Mountains were bigger than sasuke Islands
Madara just swinged his sord and nothing else he did not even used his physical sord
Those single rock sasuke cut were just the size of madara Big Rock droped from the sky in episode 322. Madara splitting the mountain was bigger with shoke wave reflex
Lol no,
how on earth can mountains be bigger than islands????
thats like saying a building is larger than a continent.
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and this is
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the size difference between the meteors and the mountains is huge, on top of the fact that those meteors were made from CT orbs which are more durable than mountain tops, meaning that the DC of Sasukes PS is much higher than Madraras
Madara just swinged his sord and nothing else he did not even used his physical sord
Those single rock sasuke cut were just the size of madara Big Rock droped from the sky in episode 322. Madara splitting the mountain was bigger with shoke wave reflex
Madara swung his sword, and Sasuke swung his sword,
yet the meteors that sasukes bisected were much larger and durable than the mountains that madara cut,
Lol no,
how on earth can mountains be bigger than islands????
thats like saying a building is larger than a continent.
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and this is
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the size difference between the meteors and the mountains is huge, on top of the fact that those meteors were made from CT orbs which are more durable than mountain tops, meaning that the DC of Sasukes PS is much higher than Madraras
Madara swung his sword, and Sasuke swung his sword,
yet the meteors that sasukes bisected were much larger and durable than the mountains that madara cut,
ive already debunked the rest
They are both still fodder to Rinnegan Sasuke,
so its completely irrelavant
First take the size of madara PS and where is the proof they are islands?
Sasuke cut meteors that was the size of the meteors droped from the sky on episode 322 see my signature for the rock size and PS standing near it. Madara cut a mountain bigger than his PS
Madara PS is stronger than Sasuke. While Sasuke PS is faster than Madaras these are the facts
