SM Jiraiya vs Tobirama
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Senjutsu enhanced Fire, Earth, Water and Wind. How does Tobirama have the elemental advantage lol
The question is how does Tobirama defeat Jiraiya. SM enhances his body to a point where getting his throat crushed and his left arm torn off didn't kill him so the "FTG SLASH" argument is not going to cut it here. Jiraiya is also durable without SM, as he still managed to move with 6 Ridoku spikes in his heart/back etc even when those spikes stop all movement. Those same spikes pinned down Hashirama and Tobirama permanently, but not Jiraiya to a degree.
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He got his throat crushed, how does durability factor into this? He got his left arm torn off, how does durability factor into this? Tobirama cuts through him just like how Sasuke cut through Madara's arm, and Madara actually has impressive SM durability feats unlike Jiraiya.
And again, how is moving while having 6 Rikudo spikes in his back a feat of durability?
Tobirama literally had a rod in his head lol, Hashirama was also able to move because he gave Sasuke some of his chakra.
Tobirama still wins this,
--He can use his KB and can mark his kunais as the battle proceeds on, thus enabling him to use FTG to evade most of jiraiyas attacks
--Tobirama proceeds Jiraiya at CQC as his speed and reflexes are still vastly superior to SM Jiraiya, and can proceed to mark jiraiya, and once that happens jiraiya is done for through hiraishingiri
--He can use his KB and can mark his kunais as the battle proceeds on, thus enabling him to use FTG to evade most of jiraiyas attacks
--Tobirama proceeds Jiraiya at CQC as his speed and reflexes are still vastly superior to SM Jiraiya, and can proceed to mark jiraiya, and once that happens jiraiya is done for through hiraishingiri
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Ftg can't counter genjutsu. Swamp has been portrayed to appear instantly, with no limitation. That'll be a problem for Tobimara.
Pa&Ma as an extra pair of eyes and sensing allow Jman to predict his movements/hand speed and counter.
How is jiraiya prepping frog song, when tobirama is an FTG user and would confront him at CQC???
not to mention that tobiramas shunshin alone is too much for jiraiyaa regardlesss of SM,
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and lost his arm, Tobiramas shunshin alone is superior to Shurado by quite a margin,
Frog Call can also be evaded with FTG, due to the jutsus range, and the effect being not as quick thereby allowing tobirama to evade it before it immobilises him,
moreover, tobirama isnt stupid to leave behind his main moveset (FTG and KB) and attack Jiraiya without any backup,
he can use his KB to place markings outside the AOE, thus enabling him to evade most of jiraiyas attacks,
and having ma&pa as an extra pair of eyes is still not that helpful due to the fact that Jiraiya is still too slow and cant prevent himself from getting marked,
Yomi Numa being ''appeared instantly and without limitation'' is just wrong and no-limits fallacy
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Tobirama wins mid diff. He can use his FTG slash to put an end to Jiraiya. He can also create kagebunshins who both use FTG as well. (by marking kunai's) Also, Jiriaya does not have perfect SM, so he doesn't have SM sensing or Frog Katas the way Naruto does.
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I can't but we know that from Anbu squad and what he show to us. And this is not full power Tobirama.
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Jiraiya stomps 1 giant Katon gg
Yes because jiraiya is going to sit there while Tobirama's bushin run out size his Aoe fights starts giant katon roast tobirama gg
Yes because jiraiya is going to sit there while Tobirama's bushin run out size his Aoe fights starts giant katon roast tobirama gg
Wow. Re-read the manga. Some fodder Anbu praised Tobirama for being able to use Suiton without water source. Now look at what Mei or Kisame can do without water sources as well. Tobirama simply is proficient in Suiton but that's it. Don't give him more credit than he actually deserves.
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He has no counter for sound genjutsu. Gamabunta fire aoe will scorch him and his clones(His running speed hasn't been shown to be impressive).
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Feats wise Jiraya win
Until tobirama showing his feats, he lost this battle
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Hahha people think Tobirama wins.
Remember when Tobirama attempted an FTG snipe on SM Madara? SM sensing + art of raging lions mane = gg Tobirama.
Remember when Tobirama attempted an FTG snipe on SM Madara? SM sensing + art of raging lions mane = gg Tobirama.