SM Minato vs EMS Sasuke

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yes because sasuke will stand next to one of minato's kunai and wait for him to teleport. the frog sound genjutsu travels sasuke gets out of its range who said anything about 50 metors plus it would require minato to stand still in use enton projectiles turn the frogs into paste sound genjutsu is your only argument in it has been counterd numerous times
is FTG V2 restricted??

I haven't seen anyone countering this, only seen "he dodges" lol

and Minato has to stand still?
that's a new one
thought the frogs were the ones doing the singing, not him xD

doesnt matter once sasuke uses amaterasu minato dodges via kunai (If he can even dodge amaterasu with no info) sasuke sees he teleported via kunai so he burns all of them down same with the ftg marking because they are the same marking on the kunai
you competely ignore the fact that he can teleport to clones or trade places with them
I think you're doing it on purpose, nice selective reading...
 

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It doesn't matter if Pain saw or not he wouldn't know it was coming either way... "I wasn't expecting a Genjutsu this powerful from you sensei" if Jiraiya's student didn't know about it how the hell is Sasuke going to figure out what's coming? As for Amaterasu it doesn't phase Minato even if it hits...Madara's orbs hit Minato's back and he simply FTG'd away. As for the markings you keep saying Sasuke destroys Minato can use shadow clones that also use FTG and can switch places with them.
You just killed your own argument with this pain has never seen sound genjutsu before according to you sasuke has furthermore sharingan has can see chakra in change in chakra to know what jutsu your going to use or if you caught in something genjutsu is advoiding saying pain is his student so him now knowing about it makes it credible for sasuke not to know terrible pain hasit been his student since the rain war jiraiya didnt have sage mode then so ofcourse why would he be expecting anything like that coming from jiraiya. Amaterasu has a fire property means it sticks things that stick follows minato through minato is turned to dust once it touches him. his shadow clones having amaterasu 1 shots them.
 

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is FTG V2 restricted??

I haven't seen anyone countering this, only seen "he dodges" lol
he does dodge sound genjutsu thats the only problem but even if he caught he uses amaterasu on himself via pain to break the genjutsu so it doesnt matter

and Minato has to stand still?
that's a new one
though the frogs were the ones doing the singing, not him xD
you competely ignore the fact that he can teleport to clones or trade places with them
I think you're doing it on purpose, nice selective reading...
Minato teleportion shuts off the sound genjutsu temporary because they travel though his ftg's space time i already shitted on the clones argument not selective reading im just countering your shitty post
 

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he does dodge sound genjutsu thats the only problem but even if he caught he uses amaterasu on himself via pain to break the genjutsu so it doesnt matter
ok, lets see something
you guys are talking as if FS takes ages to cast, or after casting
no
frogs simply need time to get ready

the sound waves take some time to travel depending on distance, if he teleports close and the frogs sing right away, it won't take long at all for him to get caught

and he doesn't need to do it right in front of him or right away
- he can teleport to a clone behind Sasuke
- use FTG V2 to get closer
- use FS from behind
- simple and fast

Minato teleportion shuts off the sound genjutsu temporary because they travel though his ftg's space time i already shitted on the clones argument not selective reading im just countering your shitty post
I wasn't talking about him teleporting
just moving really

he's not forced to use FS right away
he can wait for a good oportunity once the frogs are ready
 
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He may have knowledge on Sound Genjutsu but he doesn't know the frogs will be using it. Even Pain didn't know. Once they start singing, there's not much Sasuke can do, he still has to deal with Minato. Frog Song paralyzes the body and mind, he won't be escaping it.
once they start singin sasuke will know that he is about to be put in a gen as it was the same thing with kabuto. like i said in my post he quickly jumps away with his soosano, the gen does have a range and a limit.

=Voidstep;16299959]is there a rule somewhere that says that frongs can only sing from 50meters away!?
once they are ready, Minato can teleport near Sasuke and use it at closer range. how is he going to evade that??
and sasuke will just stand there and do nothing? to teleport close range near sasuke means a he has to have a kunai close(theres no prep here), any kunai close to sasuke will be seen by him and he lights them up in flames. sasuke does have some knowledge on how ftg works, he knows minato teleports to wherever his chakra is connceted. in order he needs a medium

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kunais are his medium here so any kunai visible to sasuke will be lit and i expect sasuke to take note of any kunai which would be close by. so your tactic of him teleporting close to sasuke is nullified.
 

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and sasuke will just stand there and do nothing? to teleport close range near sasuke means a he has to have a kunai close(theres no prep here), any kunai close to sasuke will be seen by him and he lights them up in flames. sasuke does have some knowledge on how ftg works, he knows minato teleports to wherever his chakra is connceted. in order he needs a medium

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kunais are his medium here so any kunai visible to sasuke will be lit and i expect sasuke to take note of any kunai which would be close by. so your tactic of him teleporting close to sasuke is nullified.
no, that tactic is not nullified
because...

everyone seems to forget about FTG V2, smh
c'mon, he doesn't need a kunai near him, he can just throw 1, or more, and choose the 1 he wants to go to...
 

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I have no clue what frog song you are talking about, they have frog song and Gamarinsho. Frog song/frog call requires no prep and it paralyses opponents. I don't know where you got the idea that they need to detach themselves from minato to use the technique. Genjutsu isn't the only argument. There's also the separation of Susanoo via FTG, but Sasuke fans always dispute this, well actually you guys dispute anything against Sasuke so whatevs. As well as space time barrier redirecting all Sasuke's attacks back at him if the situation arises.

Clones don't always just go poof, we've seen clones take heavy damage/blows on multiple occasions without poofing. Senjutsu enhanced clones are way more durable as well, so no they aren't going to go poof so easily. They can easily sacrifice themselves in order to get to Sasuke.
 
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[=Voidstep;16300467]man, seriously
why the heck would the frogs sing from far away when they are with a god damn teleporter that can get them close!?
once they are ready, they can be used from anywhere >_>
minato cant just teleport near sasuke without a marking or close by kunai with it. any close range kunai will be nullified by sasuke as he light it up, its a way to counter ftg, by disrupting the kunais which minato teleports to. with knowledge minato is not getting a kunai near him sucessfully, its that simple. clones wont work as can easily disperse of them. sasuke does have some knowledge on how ftg works, hes not stupid

this is getting a bit silly
we're talking about 1 of the fastest guys from whole manga, he'll get a rasengan to the face in a flash once he's caught
ok true but hes not getting caught


yeah, just because you say so...
no, he does have counters for it. you act like fs is instant, it isnt it requires prep, once they get it off, sasuke will notice it and jump out of range or he flies away or he simply attacks them. he was able to track juubito in mid air so he can def track minatos shunsin. no kunais will be near him so minato is not teleporting to get him, like i said any close range kunai is nullifed with enton, sasuke is not stupid to see a kunai close by and not do anything to it esp when minato can get him from it. your tactic will not be sucessful.


dude are you serious??
you say he puts everything on fire and then you say he summons Aoda!?!?
why!?!?
why is he going to do something that stupid??
you should know Aoda will get killed by the enton flames if he does that... xD
i said he lights up any kunai close by or visible making it difficult for minato to be telporting across the battlefied.
i brought up aoda as another way sasuke can win but to be frank i dont think he needs it so ill take it back.

so, your strategy is...
susano'o
everything on flames
Aoda backup
fly on Hawk
all at the same time...
not really, its just you not understanding. while soosano is up minato cant do shit to him, any kunai visible by him is lit up to nullify minatos teleportation. or sasuke simply uses ays stategy by predicting were minato would show up and taking him out once he emerges.

cool story, hope he won't get confused doing all dat
if frog song is your only argument then there is nothing much more to say it has been countered.
 
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ok, lets see something
you guys are talking as if FS takes ages to cast, or after casting
no
frogs simply need time to get ready

the sound waves take some time to travel depending on distance, if he teleports close and the frogs sing right away, it won't take long at all for him to get caught

and he doesn't need to do it right in front of him or right away
- he can teleport to a clone behind Sasuke
- use FTG V2 to get closer
- use FS from behind
- simple and fast
Sasuke isnt going to let a clone get behind him to teleport. also clones are 1 shotted with susanoo arrows or amaterasu
already explained the clones reaction time is to slow so they get smacked sasuke susanoo can jumps like 100 feet in a single leap sound genjutsu isnt happening im done with this shitty debate all i see i sound genjutsu move on its been counterd a thousand times



I wasn't talking about him teleporting
just moving really

he's not forced to use FS right away
he can wait for a good oportunity once the frogs are ready
there will be no good opp because he is pressured the hole fight kirin ends this

I have no clue what frog song you are talking about, they have frog song and Gamarinsho. Frog song/frog call requires no prep and it paralyses opponents. I don't know where you got the idea that they need to detach themselves from minato to use the technique. Genjutsu isn't the only argument.
If they're connected to minato once sasuke shoots susanoo arrow or amaterasu he uses ftg cutting off the sound waves he previously had making that useless the genjutsu itself takes prep but it has been counterd 1000x already these argument are making me sleepy they're so weak.

There's also the separation of Susanoo via FTG, but Sasuke fans always dispute this, well actually you guys dispute anything against Sasuke so whatevs. As well as space time barrier redirecting all Sasuke's attacks back at him if the situation arises.
Teleporting susanoo is way to useless it comes right back it only waste minato chakra sasuke can cover his susanoo in enton making all contact useless plus if minato thinks he going to touch sasuke's susanoo he is torched. Space time barrier aint shit Susanoo arrow has proven its faster than handsigh witch susanoo arrow speed is well above further move its takes to long to fully suck it up he cannot send it back unless he has a seal and or kunai near the person shooting the attack futhermore susanoo can tank far more than it can dish out.

Clones don't always just go poof, we've seen clones take heavy damage/blows on multiple occasions without poofing. Senjutsu enhanced clones are way more durable as well, so no they aren't going to go poof. They can easily sacrifice themselves in order to get to Sasuke.
clones go proof after a touch enhnace durability hasit shown anything impressive when using with clones and sacraficing what enton burns them down easily minato has nothing to even put a dent in the susanoo armor so its all for nothing kirin ends this minato having no knowledge wont be outside of its Aoe futhermore all his kunai are burnt down via enton and kirin moves at 1/1000 of a second.
 
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no, that tactic is not nullified
because...

everyone seems to forget about FTG V2, smh
c'mon, he doesn't need a kunai near him, he can just throw 1, or more, and choose the 1 he wants to go to...
how will minato throw a kunai near sasuke when the latter is jumping away from the sound range with his soosano? or have you forgotten your argument? once the frogs start singing sasuke jumps away as he will catch on quickly, he has info on a sound gen. or he attacks them with amaterasu
 
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I have no clue what frog song you are talking about, they have frog song and Gamarinsho. Frog song/frog call requires no prep and it paralyses opponents. I don't know where you got the idea that they need to detach themselves from minato to use the technique. Genjutsu isn't the only argument. There's also the separation of Susanoo via FTG, but Sasuke fans always dispute this, well actually you guys dispute anything against Sasuke so whatevs. As well as space time barrier redirecting all Sasuke's attacks back at him if the situation arises.

Clones don't always just go poof, we've seen clones take heavy damage/blows on multiple occasions without poofing. Senjutsu enhanced clones are way more durable as well, so no they aren't going to go poof so easily. They can easily sacrifice themselves in order to get to Sasuke.
sasuke fans are damn right to dispute that separating soosano stuff because its not happening not when he can use enton in combination with it.

no, burning damage is different esp when flames like ama/enton which burns continously, clones will go poof once they get lit on.
 

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minato cant just teleport near sasuke without a marking or close by kunai with it. any close range kunai will be nullified by sasuke as he light it up, its a way to counter ftg, by disrupting the kunais which minato teleports to. with knowledge minato is not getting a kunai near him sucessfully, its that simple. clones wont work as can easily disperse of them. sasuke does have some knowledge on how ftg works, hes not stupid
I'm gonna try to make this as simple as possible...

does Sasuke now have byakugan and can now see 360??
no
does he have SM and can sense danger??
no

Minato doesn't need to be the one throwing a kunai
one of his clones can do it out Sasuke's line of sight
and he can teleport to that kunai

no, he does have counters for it. you act like fs is instant, it isnt it requires prep, once they get it off, sasuke will notice it and jump out of range or he flies away or he simply attacks them. he was able to track juubito in mid air so he can def track minatos shunsin. no kunais will be near him so minato is not teleporting to get him, like i said any close range kunai is nullifed with enton, sasuke is not stupid to see a kunai close by and not do anything to it esp when minato can get him from it. your tactic will not be sucessful.
the frogs need time to get ready
I never said they didn't

you guys are the ones saying it is slow even after it's ready lol
well, but that depends on distance...
after the frogs are ready is pretty fast, and won't take much time to get to him if done at a reasonable distance

i said he lights up any kunai close by or visible making it difficult for minato to be telporting across the battlefied.
i brought up aoda as another way sasuke can win but to be frank i dont think he needs it so ill take it back.
yes, but he can teleport to other stuff too
like clones
if he marks something else
can trade places with clones too
etc

all at the same time...
not really, its just you not understanding. while soosano is up minato cant do shit to him, any kunai visible by him is lit up to nullify minatos teleportation. or sasuke simply uses ays stategy by predicting were minato would show up and taking him out once he emerges.
Minato doesn't need to destroy susano'o

Minato it's not the Raikage
and the Raikage was enraged because of Bee

if frog song is your only argument then there is nothing much more to say it has been countered.
like you can see by the replies
no, it hasn't been countered

and no, it's not the only way
but this is getting long enough with FS alone.....
 

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Sasuke isnt going to let a clone get behind him to teleport. also clones are 1 shotted with susanoo arrows or amaterasu
already explained the clones reaction time is to slow so they get smacked sasuke susanoo can jumps like 100 feet in a single leap sound genjutsu isnt happening im done with this shitty debate all i see i sound genjutsu move on its been counterd a thousand times
yes
of course his clones are going to get 1 shotted that easily... Zzz

and of course clones are much slower than the original
I just wonder how the hell a Nardo clone dodged the 3rd Raikage and finished him
I can't even imagine what the original would do... probably rolf stomp the 3rd in reaction/speed and end him with neg diff I guess...

there will be no good opp because he is pressured the hole fight kirin ends this
FS takes less time to prep than Kirin...

If they're connected to minato once sasuke shoots susanoo arrow or amaterasu he uses ftg cutting off the sound waves he previously had making that useless the genjutsu itself takes prep but it has been counterd 1000x already these argument are making me sleepy they're so weak.
that's why he was caught by Kabuto sound genjutsu
those damn arrows are so awesome

clones go proof after a touch enhnace durability hasit shown anything impressive when using with clones and sacraficing what enton burns them down easily minato has nothing to even put a dent in the susanoo armor so its all for nothing kirin ends this minato having no knowledge wont be outside of its Aoe futhermore all his kunai are burnt down via enton and kirin moves at 1/1000 of a second.
yes, top shinobi clones poof that easily
that's why Nardo was soloing the war with clones alone and some of them were taking a beating

all it's needed is a touch, the clone doesn't need to stay there for 5 minites cuddling the susano'o
 

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=Voidstep;16301983]I'm gonna try to make this as simple as possible...

does Sasuke now have byakugan and can now see 360??
no
does he have SM and can sense danger??
no

Minato doesn't need to be the one throwing a kunai
one of his clones can do it out Sasuke's line of sight
and he can teleport to that kunai
lol no he doesnt have those. he doesnt need to have them tho, as minato will not be escaping from his sight.
that trick wont work, because his clones can be easily dispersed off. their shunshin cant escape sasukes line of sight and if they utilize ftg its not as effective as minato himself

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with that i think its safe to say that sasuke easily destroy them

the frogs need time to get ready
I never said they didn't

you guys are the ones saying it is slow even after it's ready lol
well, but that depends on distance...
after the frogs are ready is pretty fast, and won't take much time to get to him if done at a reasonable distance
and what makes you think sasuke will give them that time?
yes but sasuke moves away


yes, but he can teleport to other stuff too
like clones
if he marks something else
can trade places with clones too
etc
clones wont be of much help but ive gotten tired lol, i think ill leave it as this


Minato doesn't need to destroy susano'o
then he doesnt do much

Minato it's not the Raikage
and the Raikage was enraged because of Bee
you misunderstood. the raikage figured out the mechanics of ftg and tried to counter it during his counter with minato. i said sasuke can apply the same. my post had nothing with his battle with sasuke

like you can see by the replies
no, it hasn't been countered
it has actually

and no, it's not the only way
but this is getting long enough with FS alone...
..

ill leave it this, but it was countered.
 
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lol no he doesnt have those. he doesnt need to have them tho, as minato will not be escaping from his sight.
that trick wont work, because his clones can be easily dispersed off. their shunshin cant escape sasukes line of sight and if they utilize ftg its not as effective as minato himself

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with that i think its safe to say that sasuke easily destroy them
I'm sorry, but now I'm really not sure if you're being serious or just trolling

so, in your mind Sasuke can keep his eyes on the original and a couple of other clones running around!?!?
I don't know man, I can't even type this without laughing, do you even realise what you're saying!?!? xD

Minato and 2 other clones can't escape his line of sight...
and Raikage alone did it, and he doesn't even have S/T
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and what makes you think sasuke will give them that time?
yes but sasuke moves away
Sasuke doesn't need to give them time
Minato can stay on defense until they are ready

keep some distance
change chakra to sensory since he's only focusing on evading
keep frogs on his shoulders
profit?

you misunderstood. the raikage figured out the mechanics of ftg and tried to counter it during his counter with minato. i said sasuke can apply the same. my post had nothing with his battle with sasuke
different type of battles
Minato knew he was speedy guy and all
against something very large, like a susano'o, it would make much more sense if he scattered the kunais more
they don't really fight large things at close distance, unless he feels like going around slapping the susano'o
 

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Voidstep;16302412]I'm sorry, but now I'm really not sure if you're being serious or just trolling
lets find out

so, in your mind Sasuke can keep his eyes on the original and a couple of other clones running around!?!?
I don't know man, I can't even type this without laughing, do you even realise what you're saying!?!? xD
not sure if serious. minatos clones wont be fast enough to evade sasukes line of sight completely. he sees minato make two clones abd he takes note. with soosano he doesnt need to be able to follow them, soosano arm and enton orbs means clones can do shit near sasuke are you saying they would get close or around sasuke without him noticing?? sorry but dont be silly, with soosano arms capabilities non of minato clones are getting close nor doing anything and they are not fooling sasuke

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Minato and 2 other clones can't escape his line of sight...
and Raikage alone did it, and he doesn't even have S/T
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yes because ms sasuke is Ems. good logic. ems sasuke was capable of tracking obito whom bsm naruto was at first having difficulties sensing at first.

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the higher the doujutsu lv the better the tracking abilities so using ms sasuke is fail on your part. even if they do escape, they dont pose a threat to sasuke.

Sasuke doesn't need to give them time
Minato can stay on defense until they are ready
and how will he do that? all his toads get one shotted via amaterasu, his only hope is to keep dodging but for how long?

keep some distance
change chakra to sensory since he's only focusing on evading
keep frogs on his shoulders
profit?
ok, he preps the genjutsu, and sasuke jumps away from the range, he keeps his distance.


different type of battles
Minato knew he was speedy guy and all
against something very large, like a susano'o, it would make much more sense if he scattered the kunais more
they don't really fight large things at close distance, unless he feels like going around slapping the susano'o
he is sucessfully getting any kunai close to sasuke tho and with knowledge on the jutsu sasuke simply lights them up upon contact.

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his brings out this and directs his magatamas at the kunais. its an open field so sasuke will sight them clearly. clones are not of much help as i explained before. once sasuke limits minatos movements the its a matter of hitting him, thats how i see it.
 
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lets find out

not sure if serious. minatos clones wont be fast enough to evade sasukes line of sight completely. he sees minato make two clones abd he takes note. with soosano he doesnt need to be able to follow them, soosano arm and enton orbs means clones can do shit near sasuke are you saying they would get close or around sasuke without him noticing?? sorry but dont be silly, with soosano arms capabilities non of minato clones are getting close nor doing anything and they are not fooling sasuke

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yes because ms sasuke is Ems. good logic. ems sasuke was capable of tracking obito whom bsm naruto was at first having difficulties sensing at first.

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the higher the doujutsu lv the better the tracking abilities so using ms sasuke is fail on your part. even if they do escape, they dont pose a threat to sasuke.
you really don't get it do you??
you can't possibly keep 3 people taking different directions in your line of sight
1 in front of you, 1 behind you and 1 on the left side.... how the heck can you see them all!?!?
is he a chameleon?? Sharingan doesn't give 360 vision like byakugan, and Sasuke is not a sensory type, he won't know what the hell they are doing

and YES, THEY ARE IMPORTANT
have you forgotten what we been discussing already?

he can teleport to his clones
or the clone behind Sasuke can throw a kunai and he won't know
Minato can teleport to that kunai behind him to use FS
and guess what... S/T is INSTANT, minato will appear behind him and he won't see him

and how will he do that? all his toads get one shotted via amaterasu, his only hope is to keep dodging but for how long?
man...
the frogs are on his shoulders, he's teleporting with them
why wouldn't he evade an arrow taking his direction!?!?
and why would he leave the little froggies behind!?!? he's not a jerk, I think

ok, he preps the genjutsu, and sasuke jumps away from the range, he keeps his distance.
but what range are you talking about??
the clone behind Sasuke throws a kunai, Sasuke can't see it, and he doesn't have SM to sense danger
Minato appears behind him and the little froggies sing a song on Saucekay ears, he won't dodge a point black genjutsu mang, no matter how much you don't like dat

he is sucessfully getting any kunai close to sasuke tho and with knowledge on the jutsu sasuke simply lights them up upon contact.

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his brings out this and directs his magatamas at the kunais. its an open field so sasuke will sight them clearly. clones are not of much help as i explained before. once sasuke limits minatos movements the its a matter of hitting him, thats how i see it.
THE KUNAI CAME FROM BEHIND
he can't see shet from his back... no byakugan, no SM and no chameleon weird eyes
he's not going to light up a kunai on fire he doesn't know about Zzz
 
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Voidstep;16303026]you really don't get it do you??
you can't possibly keep 3 people taking different directions in your line of sight
1 in front of you, 1 behind you and 1 on the left side.... how the heck can you see them all!?!?
is he a chameleon?? Sharingan doesn't give 360 vision like byakugan, and Sasuke is not a sensory type, he won't know what the hell they are doing
*sigh*
so you are saying minato will get a clone behind sasuke and he wont know?? how the hell is that happening?? if sasuke sees him making clones then he will be aware. they cant ambush him when he has soosano. soosanos cqc attacks means no clone will be sucessfully get near sasuke, he swings his arm and any clone near him is oneshotted. you have to explain how a clone will sucessfully get behind sasuke without him being able to know. when you do that then we can have an argument.if sasuke floods the battle field with enton how are clones going to be able to move he can do this.

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with that no clone is sucessfully geting behind him.

if they throw a kunai towards him sasuke deflects it back or he intercepts it with a magatama. any close kunai near him is lit so using ftg to get close is not an option. minato doesnt have any prep kunai that will be near sasuke, he needs to be able to get one near him sucessfully and like i said its not going to be possible, how hard is it to understand??

and YES, THEY ARE IMPORTANT
have you forgotten what we been discussing already?
like i said sasuke dismisses any minato clone easily

he can teleport to his clones
or the clone behind Sasuke can throw a kunai and he won't know
Minato can teleport to that kunai behind him to use FS
and guess what... S/T is INSTANT, minato will appear behind him and he won't see him
and thats were i disagree. tell me how that clone will get behind him, you are not taking sasukes attacks into consideration.but lets say he does get one near him, then what? he cant do anything due to soosano or are you saying the only use for the clone is for FS? like i said sasuke is not going to stand there while the frogs prep it. he quickly jumps out of the range or he flies away with his hawk. there clone method countered.


but what range are you talking about??
the clone behind Sasuke throws a kunai, Sasuke can't see it, and he doesn't have SM to sense danger
Minato appears behind him and the little froggies sing a song on Saucekay ears, he won't dodge a point black genjutsu mang, no matter how much you don't like dat
frog song, it does have a range esp in an open field.
i like how you say the clone behind sasuke when you havent properly explained how that clone bypasses sasukes attacks and sucessfully gets behind him. teleporting there is not an option as its slow upon clones as tobirama said so sasuke will notice. no kunais will be near sasuke as he nullifies anyone he sees close. with enton sucessfully around sasuke or across the battlefield i will like to see how a clone will magically appear there without a kunai

THE KUNAI CAME FROM BEHIND
he can't see shet from his back... no byakugan, no SM and no chameleon weird eyes
he's not going to light up a kunai on fire he doesn't know about Zzz
already countered, look above.
-implying a clone will sucessfully bypass sasukes soosano and enton attacks and get behind him.
-implying they get there with ftg when sasuke takes care of any kunai close by.

minato cant get a kunai behind sasuke and he sure cant use his speed to get there when sasukes has attacks to keep his clones at bay.
 

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I CAN'T READ
OMFG
man, I can't take you seriously anymore


why would the clones go near susano'o??
WHY??
can't you read??

why wouldn't a clone be able to run around susano'o (keeping distance) and get behind him??
WHY??
what the hell is wrong with you man??
who said they're going CQC, why the hell would they go CQC with a susano'o??
OMG

it doesn't matter if he puts enton around him
is there a limit of how far can they (Minato and clones) go??
why would they go near the fire??
WHY??
for what?? they don't have to
the more distance between them the better, it makes it easier to dodge stuff

Frog Song can be used from anywhere
they don't need to be far to use that damn genjutsu, stop saying nonsense
and I already told you how he can get close, you just can't read


OMG
I really can't be bothered to reply to all that shet
you clearly didn't understand ANYTHING
I won't waste more of my time with you
 

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well, first of all, PS is restricted

2nd - now FS is useless??
this is a sound genjutsu not a visual genjutsu, Saucekay won't break it like that.

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as you can see there, both him and Itachi (master in genjutsu) got caught in a sound genjutsu
and him and Itachi needed each other to free themselves from the genjutsu
also, check the susano'o.....
yep, susano'o disappeared...

about being able to use techs
c'mon man, they're paralized and susano'o vanishes, a kage level shinobi will fack em up
and before you make up an excuse, he can finish him with a clone (just incase)


you're missing the point
Minardo doesn't need to destroy the susano'o, he has ways around it
FS being one of them
it doesn't matter if susano'o is coated with enton, he doesn't need to touch susano'o to cast FS... >_>
surroundings being in flames won't help Sauce much either, Minardo will just keep distance and evade everthing thrown at him even easier
he doesn't even need kunais to teleport... like I already said before, he can switch places with clones or teleport to them, and vice versa



IMO this is on Sauce favour, he has better chances of winning this
but it won't be an easy fight for him and Minardo can also beat him
I clearly showed the scan of Susanoo going down but as i've also stated what would stop him from bringing it back up? He used genjutsu while caught in genjutsu so there is no reason he shouldn't be able to use Susanoo.

That pretty much shit's on your entire post now doesn't it.


Clones have great tolerance to pain until a certain degree. I doubt they would poof that easily. The end of Sage Mode training is to learn fusion with Pa, so at the very least every Sage Mode users are capable to summon him. Not to mention, Kishimot actually said frog contract helps to summon every toad(so including Pa). During this war, Minato missed his arms. You need handseals to perform the summoning jutsu
I don't care about your opinion, so please refrain replying to my posts
The biggest Minato on the base saying this? Lmao ok good thing because it's really hard to debate with super fanboys.

I've yet to see a decent post explaining me how Minato doesn't win this. All i see is posters saying Sasuke wins just because he is Sasuke. Minato has all his cards to win this battle fairly easily
I gave multiple counters still haven't seen one counter post gtfoh or bring some arguments to the table.
if the frogs are on his shoulders, they'll teleport with him
unless Minato is being a jerk and leaves them behind and lets them get killed on purpose, just for the lols

he won't need many clones to begin with
and the frogs won't be vulnerable on his shoulders


Extra:
Raikage evaded amaterasu
Kakashi with 3 tomoes had time to activate MS to kamui an enton arrow
thinking Sauce is going to easily kill Minato or the frogs on his shoulders doesn't make much sense
Please Raikage needed to prep his body flicker just to dodge Amaterasu. If Sasuke would have used Amaterasu a 2nd time GG raikage. Why is Minato running speed so overrated?
 
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