SM Minato vs EMS Sasuke

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He can easily send a clone do it. The Chou Odama Rasengan is created by adding a great amount of natural energy to your rasengan, so it's something Minato is capable to replicate if we give him Naruto's Sage Mode limits like in this thread. The 3 is Pa/Ma's feat and they are Minato's summon. The 5th picture was to show that natural energy is unlimited, so Minato would never run out if Pa/Ma deliver him continous natural energy, allowing him to spam his techniques just like Naruto
Flaw... Minato's reserves are nowhere near as big as Naruto's. That being said you need to balance nature chakra and your own chakra and spiritual energy. SO minato "spamming" is out of the question for he would lose balance much faster than naruto
 

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No it doesnt,, since i already stated that sasuke can bypass the limits of FTG meaning that even if minato tries to prep Frog Song,, he is not escaping the AOE of Sasukes attacks, therefore FS is not happening
What attacks are you talking about? If sets the bridge of fire with ama that really traps him. Minato could always ftg away and prepare frog song and then return (I think).
 

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What attacks are you talking about? If sets the bridge of fire with ama that really traps him. Minato could always ftg away and prepare frog song and then return (I think).
No,, no prep markings are allowed
read my post, on what attacks im talking about
OP has not stated any prep for Minato, meaning that he cant jus have marks outside of the location, and leave the battleifield and come out with frog song
since thats an automatic BFR win for Sasuke
 

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Minato isn't getting past this

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And before you say this is RM sasuke... What is present in this scan that sasuke can't re-create in his EMS state?
 

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Sasuke wins this

--With him having iintel on the basic mechanics of FTG,, sasuke would use his enton orbs, and all the other enton variants to flame the kunai and the locations with markings,, thus hindering minatos use of FTG

--Sasuke can also use his large scale susanoo variants and use their larger enton variants which would have the AOE to bypass the limits of FTG,

--once the AOE is covered minato would be unable to avoid the V4 bijuu slashes,,, and regardless of his perfect SM, his durabulity wont suffice such damage

--not only that but the AOE is covered before minato can prep frog song, and once the range of his FTG is bypassed, he is not managing to land the genjutsu without getting slashed by bijuu sized V3/V4 susanoo slashes

--Minato has no way of destroying sasukes susanoo,, as well as the fact that sasuke could track juubitos speed, and the fact that susanoo formation allowed itachi to defend against kirin means that even teleporting sasuke out of his susanoo is futile
i agree with this guy my thoughts exactly

OT. sasuke wins low mid dif. bm minato is the only minato version that can beat Ems sasuke, any other loses.
 

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Flaw... Minato's reserves are nowhere near as big as Naruto's. That being said you need to balance nature chakra and your own chakra and spiritual energy. SO minato "spamming" is out of the question for he would lose balance much faster than naruto
what are you talking about!?!?
J-Man couldn't even enter SM by himself or balance it properly, and did you see him lose balance!?!?

the frogs do most of the work when it comes to gather and balance nature energy... and if J-Man and Nardo can use them (if wasn't for Kurama), then Minardo can use it too, and spam it if he feels like it.


anyway, IMO this match is on Sauce favour, he has better chances of winning, but Minardo has his chances too.
so, Sauce high diff

why high diff?
Minardo has his chances too
he won't be easy to catch/kill
and has a 1 shot tech in his arsenal (FS) that can end the fight on his favour... it won't be easy for Sauce to get rid of the frogs, cause Minardo can keep teleporting them out of danger (he can use a clone for that)


--With him having iintel on the basic mechanics of FTG,, sasuke would use his enton orbs, and all the other enton variants to flame the kunai and the locations with markings,, thus hindering minatos use of FTG
Obito lived all his live with mark on him and he didn't realize he had it, and you think Sauce can get rid of all marks and kunais like dat!?!? xD
people don't really fight large stuff (like summons or susano'o) at close range, so it's logical to assume he would scatter his kunais, and how is Sauce going to find kunais behind bushes and shet??

besides, kunais aren't really needed, don't forget Minardo can trade places with clones or teleport to them...
he won't be easy to catch

but like I said in my post above, this is on Sauce favour
 

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Sasuke wins this with ease. His standing Susanoo is the size of Bijuu for starters. He covers the battlefield in Enton to make Ftg useless. Uses Manda or Oda and cover them with Susanoo for a quick rush while there rapped in Enton as well.

EMS Sasuke is just to versatile to lose to Minato.


Assuming, SM Minato will start with Pa and Ma out, he would win this mid difficulty. And Yes [ ] It [ ] Does [ ] Change [ ] Any Outcome [ ]
Your a shitty debater i thought it was just with Jiraiya no you just can't debate.

Ma and Pa song can easily be dodged. The moment they come out Amaterasu one shots them or Susanoo arrow to blitz them. Also Itachi and Sasuke has already shown they can use there techs and clearly see there surroundings as well.

Shoot yourself trying to compare Frog song to Whiterage. Whiterage immobilize and complete throw the user via vibrations which frog song has yet to show feats of.

Puh. SM Minato takes this.
Please explain.
i guess he will win if he has ma n pa but he doesn't then sasuke stomps..!!!
I already countered Ma and Pa there not that op since the frog song needs prep and as pain showed you can easily strike them off the users body.
 
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FS easily dodge!?!?
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- waits for frogs to be ready
- throws 3 kunais (just incase)
- FTG v2 a clone to one of the kunais for distraction (just incase)
- FTG v2 to 1 of them close to Saucekay
- instant FS on his face
- will it be dodged??


coat a summon with susano'o and then coat the full summon/susano'o with enton
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guess amaterasu/enton costs no chakra to use now...

I already countered Ma and Pa there not that op since the frog song needs prep and as pain showed you can easily strike them off the users body.


you didn't counter anything
we're not talking about Nardo and Nagarto

this is a teleporter with great reflexes and a sensor
thinking he's going to just sit and let Sauce kill the frogs it's a bit silly
he can teleport them out of danger, and last time I checked Sauce doesn't have bansho tenin
 
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FS easily dodge!?!?
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- waits for frogs to be ready
- throws 3 kunais (just incase)
- FTG v2 a clone to one of the kunais for distraction (just incase)
- FTG v2 to 1 of them close to Saucekay
- instant FS on his face
- will it be dodged??


coat a summon with susano'o and then coat the full summon/susano'o with enton
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guess amaterasu/enton costs no chakra to use now...



you didn't counter anything
we're not talking about Nardo and Nagarto

this is a teleporter with great reflexes and a sensor
thinking he's going to just sit and let Sauce kill the frogs it's a bit silly
he can teleport them out of danger, and last time I checked Sauce doesn't have bansho tenin
You clealry didn't read my entire argument. Like i said above if Sasuke is caught in frogs song then what? His Susanoo will still be there he can see through Genjutsu and still see Minato. Also they can still use techs while caught in sound genjutsu. FS is useless.

Ftg is useless once Sasuke turns eveything into a Amaterasu playground and cover his Susanoo in Enton Minato has no way of winning this why? Because he lacks fire power to take down Ps.
 

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You clealry didn't read my entire argument. Like i said above if Sasuke is caught in frogs song then what? His Susanoo will still be there he can see through Genjutsu and still see Minato. Also they can still use techs while caught in sound genjutsu. FS is useless.

Ftg is useless once Sasuke turns eveything into a Amaterasu playground and cover his Susanoo in Enton Minato has no way of winning this why? Because he lacks fire power to take down Ps.
well, first of all, PS is restricted

2nd - now FS is useless??
this is a sound genjutsu not a visual genjutsu, Saucekay won't break it like that.

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as you can see there, both him and Itachi (master in genjutsu) got caught in a sound genjutsu
and him and Itachi needed each other to free themselves from the genjutsu
also, check the susano'o.....
yep, susano'o disappeared...

about being able to use techs
c'mon man, they're paralized and susano'o vanishes, a kage level shinobi will fack em up
and before you make up an excuse, he can finish him with a clone (just incase)


you're missing the point
Minardo doesn't need to destroy the susano'o, he has ways around it
FS being one of them
it doesn't matter if susano'o is coated with enton, he doesn't need to touch susano'o to cast FS... >_>
surroundings being in flames won't help Sauce much either, Minardo will just keep distance and evade everthing thrown at him even easier
he doesn't even need kunais to teleport... like I already said before, he can switch places with clones or teleport to them, and vice versa



IMO this is on Sauce favour, he has better chances of winning this
but it won't be an easy fight for him and Minardo can also beat him
 

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Sasuke can guard his own Susano'o with an Enton all and then Minato's clone poofs before it can even touch Susano'o. Since when they are Minato's summon ? If Minato could summon them, he would have done so, he needed them to control use his SM for longer, yet he didn't summon them.

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Clones have great tolerance to pain until a certain degree. I doubt they would poof that easily. The end of Sage Mode training is to learn fusion with Pa, so at the very least every Sage Mode users are capable to summon him. Not to mention, Kishimot actually said frog contract helps to summon every toad(so including Pa). During this war, Minato missed his arms. You need handseals to perform the summoning jutsu
Your a shitty debater i thought it was just with Jiraiya no you just can't debate.
I don't care about your opinion, so please refrain replying to my posts
 
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well, first of all, PS is restricted

2nd - now FS is useless??
this is a sound genjutsu not a visual genjutsu, Saucekay won't break it like that.

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as you can see there, both him and Itachi (master in genjutsu) got caught in a sound genjutsu
and him and Itachi needed each other to free themselves from the genjutsu
also, check the susano'o.....
yep, susano'o disappeared...

about being able to use techs
c'mon man, they're paralized and susano'o vanishes, a kage level shinobi will fack em up
and before you make up an excuse, he can finish him with a clone (just incase)


you're missing the point
Minardo doesn't need to destroy the susano'o, he has ways around it
FS being one of them
it doesn't matter if susano'o is coated with enton, he doesn't need to touch susano'o to cast FS... >_>
surroundings being in flames won't help Sauce much either, Minardo will just keep distance and evade everthing thrown at him even easier
he doesn't even need kunais to teleport... like I already said before, he can switch places with clones or teleport to them, and vice versa



IMO this is on Sauce favour, he has better chances of winning this
but it won't be an easy fight for him and Minardo can also beat him
You forgot to mention Frog song is more powerful than white rage. It paralyzes your mind and body.
 

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I've yet to see a decent post explaining me how Minato doesn't win this. All i see is posters saying Sasuke wins just because he is Sasuke. Minato has all his cards to win this battle fairly easily
 

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I've yet to see a decent post explaining me how Minato doesn't win this. All i see is posters saying Sasuke wins just because he is Sasuke. Minato has all his cards to win this battle fairly easily
you want me to end this i will just say the words. Sasuke would stomp this matchup the only thing in minato arsenal that is to be questioned is frog song and he can dodge it
 
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