Prime hiruzen could finish the war (manga proof with explanation) ..

Do you agree that if hiruzen was at his prime, he could finish the war

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RikudoMadara? That would be a close one for sure, with Hiruzen taking the slight lead.

Prime Hiruzen can probably take current Madara if he uses the 8th gate.

It would take his prime level times 100.
 

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Okay, that's just too much.



So, you're saying that Naruto and Sasuke with SOSP powers are weaker than Hiruzen?

They are stronger than old hiruzen but not prime hiruzen.

I have already explained that in my thread which obviously non of you read it U_U
 

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RikudoMadara? I would be a close one for sure.

Prime Hiruzen can probably take current Madara if he uses the 8th gate.

It would take his prime level times 100.
Weren't you banned for this?

They are stronger than old hiruzen but not prime hiruzen.

I have already explained that in my thread which obviously non of you read it U_U

Explained? All of that is edited scans and false feats. Hiruzen > 50% of the 1st and 2nd hokage
Naruto and Sasuke >>>>>>>>>> 100% of 1st and 2nd Hokage
 
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Prime Hiruzen can neutralize current Madara without much effort U_U
 

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Weren't you banned for this?
Please don't go off topic.
RikudoMadara? That would be a close one for sure, with Hiruzen taking the slight lead.

Prime Hiruzen can probably take current Madara if he uses the 8th gate.

It would take his prime level times 100.

If hiruzen mastered all konoha jutsu (like manga said) then at his prime days he can unlock the gates.
Even kakashi with his low chakra could open until 2 gates.

Prime hiruzen will not find trouble to unlock the gates but he didn't want to use it because the result will be death.
 

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They are stronger than old hiruzen but not prime hiruzen.

I have already explained that in my thread which obviously non of you read it U_U

I can agree with you that he's underrated, but for saying this: Hiruzen Prime=SOSP and that he can own Naruto and Sasuke, I can only tell you this: Please Rasengan yourself.

1. Knows all the jutsus? Why won't he use FTG and 8 gates to attack Madara?
2. He beated Edo Tobi/Hashi who weren't revieved in their prime all thanks to the justu that PROFESSOR LEARNED FROM MINATO.
 

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I can agree with you that he's underrated, but for saying this: Hiruzen Prime=SOSP and that he can own Naruto and Sasuke, I can only tell you this: Please Rasengan yourself.

1. Knows all the jutsus? Why won't he use FTG and 8 gates to attack Madara?
2. He beated Edo Tobi/Hashi who weren't revieved in their prime all thanks to the justu that PROFESSOR LEARNED FROM MINATO.
Cajin > Your thread
 

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Explained? All of that is edited scans and false feats. Hiruzen > 50% of the 1st and 2nd hokage
Naruto and Sasuke >>>>>>>>>> 100% of 1st and 2nd Hokage

The edited scans are predictions l of what will happen to obito and madara if they fought prime hiruzen.
The other scans are from manga and I didn't edit them.

Prime hiruzen is at hogoromo level while sasuke and Naruto are at indura and ashura level so prime hiruzen is still stronger than them judging from his previous feats of taking down both hokage at once, mastered all konoha jutsu and praised as strongest hokage that ever lived ..
Prime Hiruzen can neutralize current Madara without much effort U_U

He could defeat madara before he obtained the 2 renningan.

Now it's too late because currently madara is at kaguya level which is obviously higher than prime hiruzen level.
 

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If hiruzen mastered all konoha jutsu (like manga said) then at his prime days he can unlock the gates.
Even kakashi with his low chakra could open until 2 gates.

Prime hiruzen will not find trouble to unlock the gates but he didn't want to use it because the result will be death.

He could use 7th. Old Hiruzen was at least on par with 7th gate Gai using his old base form. 7th gate prime hiruzen would be a monster.
 

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The edited scans are predictions l of what will happen to obito and madara if they fought prime hiruzen.
The other scans are from manga and I didn't edit them.

Prime hiruzen is at hogoromo level while sasuke and Naruto are at indura and ashura level so prime hiruzen is still stronger than them judging from his previous feats of taking down both hokage at once, mastered all konoha jutsu and praised as strongest hokage that ever lived ..


He could defeat madara before he obtained the 2 renningan.

Now it's too late because currently madara is at kaguya level which is obviously higher than prime hiruzen level.

How can you come with such bullshit? I sense fanboyism
No feats = We can't compare him with anyone
 

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I can agree with you that he's underrated, but for saying this: Hiruzen Prime=SOSP and that he can own Naruto and Sasuke, I can only tell you this: Please Rasengan yourself.

1. Knows all the jutsus? Why won't he use FTG and 8 gates to attack Madara?
2. He beated Edo Tobi/Hashi who weren't revieved in their prime all thanks to the justu that PROFESSOR LEARNED FROM MINATO.

1) he can use ftg and 8 gates since he already mastered all konoha jutsu but he was 72 years old and he doesn't have enough chakra to perform it
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2) minato learned his jutsu from his previous sensei.

hiruzen is jiraya'sensei and jiraya was minato's sensei .

Hiruzen at his primes mastered all konoha jutsu before minato was even born.

Cajin > Your thread

No.

I soloed you both.
 
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1) he can use ftg and 8 gates but he was 72 years old and he doesn't have enough chakra to perform it
2) minato learned his jutsu from his predecessors.
hiruzen is jiraya'sensei and jiraya was minato's sensei .

Hiruzen at his primes mastered all konoha jutsu before minato was even born.



No.

I soloed you both.
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Prime Hiruzen is featless

Prime Hiruzen is strongest among all of the Kages......Mangafacts.....don't deny it
 

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How can you come with such bullshit? I sense fanboyism
No feats = We can't compare him with anyone

Hiruzen feats :

1) mastered all konoha jutsu
2) mastered all 5 elements nature
3) defeated hashirama and tobirama
4) manga said he was strongest among all hokage during his prime days.
5) he's only hokage left in series while the others lost so badly like fodders


He could use 7th. Old Hiruzen was at least on par with 7th gate Gai using his old base form. 7th gate prime hiruzen would be a monster.

Hiruzen can unlock the 8gates too but he wouldn't do that because the result of opening the 8 gates is death.
 

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Hiruzen feats :

1) mastered all konoha jutsu
2) mastered all 5 elements nature
3) defeated hashirama and tobirama
4) manga said he was strongest among all hokage during his prime days.
5) he's only hokage left in series while the others lost so badly like fodders




Hiruzen can unlock the 8gates too but he wouldn't do that because the result of opening the 8 gates is death.

What I mean is that he should opt to use the 7th instead of the 8th. Of course he knows the 8th. But 7th in prime form would make him nearly unstoppable.
 
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