Prime hiruzen could finish the war (manga proof with explanation) ..

[Katkot]

what will happen if hiruzen was summoned at his prime?

The war will be finished ..
Neither obito or madara would stand chance against prime hiruzen.

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orochimaru made critically mistake

Orochimaru summoned hiruzen at old age , and we all know that hiruzen died at age of 72.

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old hiruzen

Even at old age , hiruzen managed to solo both edo hashirama and edo tobirama all at once.
He was indeed the strongest kage and strongest ninja that ever lived.

At his old age , 72 old prime hiruzen could defeat hashirama and tobirama at same time so I don't see madara will cause hiruzen any troubles.

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prime hiruzen

Hiruzen at his prime was strongest ninja that ever lived (manga itself said that).

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proof that he's strongest hokage

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proof that he's strongest kage

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He also mastered all konoha jutsu + 5 nature elements during his prime time.

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juobito VS prime hiruzen ?

Hiruzen lost against juobito because he was old and slower than his prime but prime Hiruzen would finish the fight in less than sec since he already faster than his old statutes also at his prime, he mastered all konoha jutsu during his prime time like manga said then he can perform uchiha jutsu without even needing of sharinghan (madara used susanoo without sharinghan as well) ..

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madara Vs prime hiruzen ?

We all saw how old hiruzen soloed edo hashirama and tobirama within 1shot.
Can prime madara do that ?
Prime madara EMS/ renningan couldn't even defeat edo hashirama while hiruzen defeated both edo hashirama and tobirama at same time.
Which mean old hiruzen easily can defeat edo madara.

Prime hiruzen still can defeat rikido Madara at very high difficulties.

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prime hiruzen level

Old hiruzen scored in databook 34 (he had 3 at speed, strength and stamina) because he was very old.
Orochimaru and anbu squad said that his chakra , speed and strength reduced because of his age.

Prime hiruzen is at hogoromo level ..
prime hiruzen must had the full score at databook ..

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So6p maybe had meeting with hiruzen during hiruzen's prime days and he granted him all that power.
They have same look ..

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can hiruzen now stop current madara ??

I don't think so , it's too late now because madara level now shifted to kaguya level which is far than so6p level ..
If orochimaru summoned hiruzen at prime level then hiruzen could defeat 1renningan rikudoMadara but now it's too late.

Prime hiruzen level comparing to naruto and sasuke ?

madara power level = kaguya power level.
Hiruzen power level = So6p power level.
Sasuke power level = indura power level.
Naruto power level = ashura power level.

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thanks for reading

 

[ultraChalk]

I disagree strongly.
Most of this is base off that 600 chapter old, debunked quote anyway. Not very reliable, though I will give you credit for the bit about the databooks.

ib4hiruzenmartyrs

 

[HashiraMadara]

LOLZ you're in denial!

 

[Cresee]

All you fodderuzen fanboys can do is to edit manga scans and show them and this time you edited the databook too.
Prime Hiruzen is a fanfiction and always will be.
Here is the fan fiction section ->

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And just to remind you, Ton Ton > Prime Fodderuzen

 

[Fair Game]

I heard he has something called the neutralizer technique.

I am not asking for a miracle, but i do hope Kishi shows us more of Hiruzen. I find him to be a interesting character.

 

[Katkot]

I disagree strongly.
Most of this is base off that 600 chapter old, debunked quote anyway. Not very reliable, though I will give you credit for the bit about the databooks.

ib4hiruzenmartyrs

Even the information is from previous chapters doesn't mean it's not fact ..
You can't throw away old pages because you don't like it.

LOLZ you're in denial!

No you are the one who lives in denial

All you fodderuzen fanboys can do is to edit manga scans and show them and this time you edited the databook too.
Prime Hiruzen is a fanfiction and always will be.
Here is the fan fiction section ->

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And just to remind you, Ton Ton > Prime Fodderuzen

I provided manga explanation with manga scan ..
The other part was prediction based on his prime days feats not fan fiction.

I heard he has something called the neutralizer technique.

I am not asking for a miracle, but i do hope Kishi shows us more of Hiruzen. I find him to be a interesting character.

Hiruzen saratubi is only hokage remaining now.
He's very powerful even at old age

 

[Everztar]

Solo Hashirama & Tobirama which were at 20% (barely)

 

[Cresee]

I provided manga explanation with manga scan ..
The other part was prediction based on his prime days feats not fan fiction

1.Tobirama and Hashirama weren't even at 50%
2.Orochimaru was toying with him either he would killed him with a kunai and end the fight right there
3.In the Prime Hiruzen vs Juubito and Prime Hiruzen vs Juubidara you provided edited scans
4.Databook is edited
5.Prime Hiruzen is all hype. He hasn't shown any feats, until Kishi shows some feats he IS a fanfiction character

 

[Katkot]

Solo Hashirama & Tobirama which were at 20% (barely)

That's false excuses ...

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He soloed them and he was at 72 , and review their fight in manga or anime (its on youtube if you want to watch the fight).

 

[Vexorian]

Solo Hashirama & Tobirama which were at 20% (barely)

20%, hardly. 75%? Maybe.

 

[Cresee]

That's false excuses ...

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He soloed them and he was at 72 , and review their fight in manga or anime (its on youtube if you want to watch the fight).

You don't want to accept it. They weren't even at 50%

 

[Katkot]

1.Tobirama and Hashirama weren't even at 50%
2.Orochimaru was toying with him either he would killed him with a kunai and end the fight right there
3.In the Prime Hiruzen vs Juubito and Prime Hiruzen vs Juubidara you provided edited scans
4.Databook is edited
5.Prime Hiruzen is all hype. He hasn't shown any feats, until Kishi shows some feats he IS a fanfiction character

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2)

Orochimaru lost his arms and hiruzen could kill him but he didn't want to kill orochimaru since he treated him like his own son.

3) prime hiruzen can solo juobito easily and I provided explanation in my thread, he lost because he was old and slower than his prime.

4) that was his prime day scores

5) manga > your opinion

 

[Everztar]

20%, hardly. 75%? Maybe.

they're at 70-80% right now... and then the Edo Tensei is at it's maximum...
the first time they were used By Orochimaru... Edo Tensei was soooooo incomplete!

like i said: 20%

You don't want to accept it. They weren't even at 50%

indeed, i'd say 20%... 30% tops!

 

[Katkot]

You don't want to accept it. They weren't even at 50%

20%, hardly. 75%? Maybe.

Manga said that he was strongest among all previous hokage.

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Even if they were at full power , they will lose.

 

[Cresee]

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Orochimaru lost his arms and hiruzen couldn't kill him since he was utter fodder

3) Tonton can solo Prime Hiruzen easily and what I explained in my thread is complete bullshit, he lost because he was utter fodder

4) that was edited databook scores

5) Tonton > Prime Hiruzen

You don't seem to be agreeing with me anytime soon since you're a fanboy. Never mind I corrected it for ya

 

[Katkot]

You don't seem to be agreeing with me anytime soon since you're a fanboy. Never mind I corrected it for ya

I am not hiruzen fanboy.

I am zabuza fan but hiruzen feats from manga can't be denied.

they're at 70-80% right now... and then the Edo Tensei is at it's maximum...
the first time they were used By Orochimaru... Edo Tensei was soooooo incomplete!

like i said: 20%



indeed, i'd say 20%... 30% tops!

I agree that Edo ninja is weaker than normal status ninja however the number you made isn't correct at all because no proof from manga about the number of percentage you used.


Show me the scan where it's said they were 20% of their power ???

 

[cajin]

No, the only ones who could finish Madara off are Sasuke and Naruto.. Maybe Minato can help a little with FTG, or Hashirama with SM. Kamui would be useful, too. Oher than that, no.

 

[Cresee]

I am not hiruzen fanboy. I am zabuza fan but hiruzen feats from manga can't be denied.

Then remain a Zabuza fan. Prime Hiruzen is and will remain a fan fiction until Kishi shows it. Until then Tonton > Prime Hiruzen neg difficulty

 

[Katkot]

No, the only ones who could finish Madara off are Sasuke and Naruto.. Maybe Minato can help a little with FTG, or Hashirama with SM. Kamui would be useful, too. Oher than that, no.

Prime hiruzen > sasuke and Naruto

Then remain a Zabuza fan. Prime Hiruzen is and will remain a fan fiction until Kishi shows it. Until then Tonton > Prime Hiruzen neg difficulty

Even if I like zabuza more than hiruzen that's doesn't mean zabuza can defeat hiruzen ?!

Manga gave him that's feats (at his prime he was strongest ninja), I am not the one who wrote the manga.

He mastered all konoha jutsu plus 5 natures and he defeated both hashirama and tobirama at same time.

He's very underrated ..

 

[cajin]

Then remain a Zabuza fan. Prime Hiruzen is and will remain a fan fiction until Kishi shows it. Until then Tonton > Prime Hiruzen neg difficulty

Okay, that's just too much.

Prime hiruzen > sasuke and Naruto

So, you're saying that Naruto and Sasuke with SOSP powers are weaker than Hiruzen?