How smart is Sasuke?

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Of course you can know something even if you have no experience in that something, don't you know about these cool things called books? Information is available everywhere, you don't have to experience something to actually know about it, and this is not only limited to Narutoverse.

For more info:



Read that and you will see there are many ways to know about something besides experiencing that something.

tl;dr: Not an excuse that Bee pwned him.
That doesn't mean he lacks intelligence. Some of the best scientists in the world probably know nothing about sports. You can't know something you haven learned about, but that doesn't mean he lacks intelligence, he was just ignorant
 

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That doesn't mean he lacks intelligence. Some of the best scientists in the world probably know nothing about sports. You can't know something you haven learned about, but that doesn't mean he lacks intelligence, he was just ignorant
I never said he was dumb or lacked intelligence, just wanted to state that he's not the almighty know-it-all people think he is. He's above average, sure, but not Shikamaru's level for example.
 

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I never said he was dumb or lacked intelligence, just wanted to state that he's not the almighty know-it-all people think he is. He's above average, sure, but not Shikamaru's level for example.

You think Shikimaru knew What a perfect Jinchuriki was? That bee was a perfect Jink? He didn't know who the kin gin brothers were and they were famous legends who attacked his former hokage.

You can't know everything. Sasuke entered the battle lacking knowledge. He's cocky. A smarter ninja, i.e Itachi would have instead of just asking the ninja he genjutsu'd for bee's location, but anything on his abilities and what makes him powerful.
 

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I never said he was dumb or lacked intelligence, just wanted to state that he's not the almighty know-it-all people think he is. He's above average, sure, but not Shikamaru's level for example.
Sasuke's Quick-Silver battle-smarts far outweigh Shikamaru's. By a mile, in fact. Not surprising, as Shikamaru looked up to Sasuke.
 

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You think Shikimaru knew What a perfect Jinchuriki was? That bee was a perfect Jink? He didn't know who the kin gin brothers were and they were famous legends who attacked his former hokage.

You can't know everything. Sasuke entered the battle lacking knowledge. He's cocky. A smarter ninja, i.e Itachi would have instead of just asking the ninja he genjutsu'd for bee's location, but anything on his abilities and what makes him powerful.
Did Sasuke know about kinkaku and Ginkaku?

Sure, you can't know everything, but still that doesn't put him in Shikamaru's level, or Shikaku by that matter.

Sasuke's Quick-Silver battle-smarts far outweigh Shikamaru's. By a mile, in fact. Not surprising, as Shikamaru looked up to Sasuke.
His battle-smarts got himself removed from a chunk of his chest.
 

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Did Sasuke know about kinkaku and Ginkaku?

Sure, you can't know everything, but still that doesn't put him in Shikamaru's level, or Shikaku by that matter.



His battle-smarts got himself removed from a chunk of his chest.
Considering the fact that Jins are guarded secrets and no one knows that the Bijuu can break the genjutsu just like that ... pretty weightless claim.
 

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Considering the fact that Jins are guarded secrets and no one knows that the Bijuu can break the genjutsu just like that ... pretty weightless claim.
Among other things, Izanagi is a secret Dojutsu and still Danzo (and possibly Orochimaru) knew more about it that Sasuke himself, being and Uchiha and all that. Just because it's a secret to some doesn't mean it's a secret to all, and above all, doesn't erase the fact that Bee owned Sasuke due to his ignorance on the matter.
 

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Among other things, Izanagi is a secret Dojutsu and still Danzo (and possibly Orochimaru) knew more about it that Sasuke himself, being and Uchiha and all that. Just because it's a secret to some doesn't mean it's a secret to all, and above all, doesn't erase the fact that Bee owned Sasuke due to his ignorance on the matter.
No it isn't. Where is it said that it's a secret technique when through out the history Uchihas abused Izanagi? Bee owned Sasuke because he didn't know about it at all? What kind of a lame excuse is that?
 

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Among other things, Izanagi is a secret Dojutsu and still Danzo (and possibly Orochimaru) knew more about it that Sasuke himself, being and Uchiha and all that. Just because it's a secret to some doesn't mean it's a secret to all, and above all, doesn't erase the fact that Bee owned Sasuke due to his ignorance on the matter.
Your starting to sound silly, rustled, and unreasonable.
 

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No it isn't. Where is it said that it's a secret technique when through out the history Uchihas abused Izanagi? Bee owned Sasuke because he didn't know about it at all? What kind of a lame excuse is that?
Ok, let's try again with a more recent example:



Aoda uses a secret technique, Kisame knew all about it. Lame excuse? nope, no excuse at all, he just got owned due to his ignorance on the subject.
 

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With the spoilers showing Sasuke's ability analyzing Limbo Hengokou and adding his analyze to Deidara's KKG, while being pressured, I will say he is on par with Minato and Itachi on analyzing. This can be added with the fact he scientifically studied Orochimaru's abilities.

I will say 6/10. He still needs more manipulation, quick observation, and the ability to manipulate the situation and planning ahead.
 

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Ok, let's try again with a more recent example:



Aoda uses a secret technique, Kisame knew all about it. Lame excuse? nope, no excuse at all, he just got owned due to his ignorance on the subject.
You obviously lack the entire understanding of how Jins and normal Ninjas are studied by other villages. Jins are secret weapons of the villages, which is why Bee was trapped in the village for so long - this happened sometime after Bee fought Minato as Ae told him to train for Bijuu damas and that he would never leave the village afterwards.

The Jins protect the Villages only, whilst Ninjas travel and carry out village or country based missions divided according to Rankings as shown in Part 1. I am basically done here anyway, as you are making less and less sense with each post.
 
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Well there are many types of intelligences and the OP seems to be asking for general intelligence (ie., book intelligence, analysis, intuition, etc.) As far as book smarts go, if they maintained the same gap throughout the series, Sakura is more book smart than Sasuke as we saw in the written portion of the chunin exams. When it comes to battle tactics, creativity, analysis, and intuition, he is a clearly a genius and probably surpassed Itachi (as we see with his innovation with the amaterasu). However, we don't know if he's at Shikamaru's ever, as we've never seen them compete. So, overall, I'd say Sasuke is a solid 15.

Naruto is probably a 12-13 overall. He has proven himself to be quite clever in battle and as we saw in the battle with Obito, his analyzing skills aren't too bad. He figured out that senjutsu was the only way to injure Obito. And while Shikamaru was stumped on what to do to get everyone outside of the barrier, it was Naruto who came up with an idea. And it worked.
 

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You obviously lack the entire understanding of how Jins and normal Ninjas are studied by other villages. Jins are secret weapons of the villages, which is why Bee was trapped in the village for so long - this happened sometime after Bee fought Minato as Ae told him to train for Bijuu damas and that he would never leave the village afterwards.

The Jins protect the Villages only, whilst Ninjas travel and carry out village or country based missions divided according to Rankings as shown in Part 1. I am basically done here anyway, as you are making less and less sense with each post.
A secret is a secret, doesn't matter if it's related to Bijuu, Dojutsu, Hijutsu, Kinjutsu or any type of Jutsu really, the important thing here is that a secret to some may not be a secret to the rest. So saying that they kept Jinchuurikis as a secret is just a really poor excuse for the poor judgement Sasuke shown using a genjutsu on Bee.
 

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In Narutoverse Sasuke is a genius but he has a inferiority complex and he's very stubborn but he is a genus born with all the gifts of the Uchiha but I think he picked up some habits from Naruto like being driven by his emotions and he charges forward like Naruto but clearly he analyzes things while Naruto uses his instincts they truly make the perfect team
 
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