Hinata hyuga the descendant of 2nd sage of six paths (power up)

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You see... this is what you don't understand:



Do note the date.

Useful theories and perspectives can predict, to a certain degree, events. That is the ultimate test of a model within science/physics. "So... nice mathematical proofs. What can you actually do with them?"

Saying: "Hinata is Fodder" has, currently, been unable to perform even the most rudimentary of predictions accurately.



You didn't know I was being serious. You were accepting an opinion that agreed with something you already believed to be true.



Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggie" until you find a big enough rock. A lack of politeness does not indicate desperation.

Though I will admit that I erred. I said "you're stupid." Which was deliberately meant to be obtuse. If you peruse my response to others, you will find that I am more than capable of creating allegories to that same sentiment. All the same - I erred.

"You are" implies an intrinsic characteristic. What I should have used was: "You are being." It is an important distinction between one's self and one's behavior.

That said - I tend to insult people when I feel like insulting people. It's a whimsical decision. Sometimes I feel like being the soothsaying wise-man.

The problem with your standpoint, however - and why I was quick to insult you - is that you didn't address any of the points of the theory (as rudimentary and off-the-cuff as it was).

"That's stupid and it's never going to happen."

"Okay, well you're obviously not participating in meaningful conversation. What about that is stupid and why couldn't it happen?"

I can line out character relationships and use those to predict future character interactions as well as some rudimentary plot constructs. Obviously, there are limitations with predicting the work of any author - but I can clearly lay out for you the concepts Kishimoto has used to model many of his characters, clans, and plot points around.

If you're going to tell me that it's not going to happen and call it fanfiction - then you leave me with no other conclusion than you're unwilling or incapable of analytical thinking and constructive debate. Which, bluntly, means you're being stupid and acting in an affront to the very concept of sentience.
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I look at your username and see the biased opinion in your post.
Ino and Sakura has done more than this shy heathen. Nothing suggests otherwise.

>Sakura figured out the secret of the Zetsu
>She healed part if not most of the SA
>Ino controlled the Juubi for a good 5 seconds (God status)
>Ino helped Shikamaru and Choji fight Asuma

>What did Hinata do? And even now, she is falling on her ass barely able to do anything. Even when she tried to use the 64 palms she could barely do that.

I'm tired of all this Hinata wank. The only use for her is through pairing wars and even that is irrelevant considering Kishi doesn't care about that stuff. Hinata has met her match. Deal with it.
Sometimes I wonder if we read the same manga:

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YOU JUST READ THIS!

"Hinata is weak, herp derp!"

"Just a fodder. Herp Derp."

How have you not swallowed your tongue, yet?
 

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You see... this is what you don't understand:



Do note the date.

Useful theories and perspectives can predict, to a certain degree, events. That is the ultimate test of a model within science/physics. "So... nice mathematical proofs. What can you actually do with them?"

Saying: "Hinata is Fodder" has, currently, been unable to perform even the most rudimentary of predictions accurately.



You didn't know I was being serious. You were accepting an opinion that agreed with something you already believed to be true.



Diplomacy is the art of saying "Nice Doggie" until you find a big enough rock. A lack of politeness does not indicate desperation.

Though I will admit that I erred. I said "you're stupid." Which was deliberately meant to be obtuse. If you peruse my response to others, you will find that I am more than capable of creating allegories to that same sentiment. All the same - I erred.

"You are" implies an intrinsic characteristic. What I should have used was: "You are being." It is an important distinction between one's self and one's behavior.

That said - I tend to insult people when I feel like insulting people. It's a whimsical decision. Sometimes I feel like being the soothsaying wise-man.

The problem with your standpoint, however - and why I was quick to insult you - is that you didn't address any of the points of the theory (as rudimentary and off-the-cuff as it was).

"That's stupid and it's never going to happen."

"Okay, well you're obviously not participating in meaningful conversation. What about that is stupid and why couldn't it happen?"

I can line out character relationships and use those to predict future character interactions as well as some rudimentary plot constructs. Obviously, there are limitations with predicting the work of any author - but I can clearly lay out for you the concepts Kishimoto has used to model many of his characters, clans, and plot points around.

If you're going to tell me that it's not going to happen and call it fanfiction - then you leave me with no other conclusion than you're unwilling or incapable of analytical thinking and constructive debate. Which, bluntly, means you're being stupid and acting in an affront to the very concept of sentience.
No. You are not capable of reading people's minds and therefore did not know whether or not I perceived the first part of your post as nonsensical or not. I could tell you were being serious. It was merely when you brought up the second part about Hinata killing a fictional deity the manga has never before shown that I began to question your intentions.

I thought that you would be intelligent enough to realize that I was referring to the second part of your post. I stated that "you wish for it to happen and it is based on slight hope". Everything you said about America already occurred in the past and is occurring, which already rules out the possibility of me talking about the first part. Everything you stated about the Hyuuga's "future" development however, has not occured. That automatically means I was referring to the second part.

You call people ignorant and close-minded for stating that what you said is not fact and merely fan-fic. However, it doesn't matter if you find connections or not. It is not considered canon until it is shown in the manga and drawn by Kishimoto's hand. That is just something that you'll have to learn to accept. You are not Kishimoto and therefore cannot state that what you wish to happen will. It just doesn't work that way.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if we read the same manga:

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YOU JUST READ THIS!

"Hinata is weak, herp derp!"

"Just a fodder. Herp Derp."

How have you not swallowed your tongue, yet?
That has nothing to do with Hinata a lot people help Naruto.
 

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No. You are not capable of reading people's minds and therefore did not know whether or not I perceived the first part of your post as nonsensical or not. I could tell you were being serious. It was merely when you brought up the second part about Hinata killing a fictional deity the manga has never before shown that I began to question your intentions.

I thought that you would be intelligent enough to realize that I was referring to the second part of your post. I stated that "you wish for it to happen and it is based on slight hope". Everything you said about America already occurred in the past and is occurring, which already rules out the possibility of me talking about the first part. Everything you stated about the Hyuuga's "future" development however, has not occured. That automatically means I was referring to the second part.

You call people ignorant and close-minded for stating that what you said is not fact and merely fan-fic. However, it doesn't matter if you find connections or not. It is not considered canon until it is shown in the manga and drawn by Kishimoto's hand. That is just something that you'll have to learn to accept. You are not Kishimoto and therefore cannot state that what you wish to happen will. It just doesn't work that way.
So anything that doesn't occurred is nothing but a joke to you?? Any useful theories based on the Manga perspective can always lead to possibilities.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if we read the same manga:

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YOU JUST READ THIS!

"Hinata is weak, herp derp!"

"Just a fodder. Herp Derp."

How have you not swallowed your tongue, yet?
And this proves what exactly?
It doesn't matter If Hinata has friends to help fill her void. She is still weak and useless compared to most.

If she wasn't a fodder then she wouldn't be collapsing on the ground with a Kyuubi cloak on.
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Talk about pathetic. And you actually fend this girl? She has done nothing and the manga proves it. Her connection with Naruto means zero shit if you don't have the confidence and power to back it up.

Sometimes I wonder if you're actually reading this manga instead of fapping over this useless Hyuga.
 

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Sometimes I wonder if we read the same manga:

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YOU JUST READ THIS!

"Hinata is weak, herp derp!"

"Just a fodder. Herp Derp."

How have you not swallowed your tongue, yet?
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Naruto tried to get up,Hinata gave up thats the diff. And Naruto was hurt a lot more then Hinata.
Yeah because she was totally going to catch up to them right? Use your common sense lmfao. And I don't remember Naruto being hurt severely at all lolz [ ][ ]
 

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I look at your username and see the biased opinion in your post.
Ino and Sakura has done more than this shy heathen. Nothing suggests otherwise.

>Sakura figured out the secret of the Zetsu
>She healed part if not most of the SA
>Ino controlled the Juubi for a good 5 seconds (God status)
>Ino helped Shikamaru and Choji fight Asuma

>What did Hinata do? And even now, she is falling on her ass barely able to do anything. Even when she tried to use the 64 palms she could barely do that.

I'm tired of all this Hinata wank. The only use for her is through pairing wars and even that is irrelevant considering Kishi doesn't care about that stuff. Hinata has met her match. Deal with it.
Really?? I would like to applaud you. Creeps.

My username makes me a biased member. Isee...
So why haven't I posted pure Hate regarding Sakura and Ino??
I admit that Im a solid Hinata fan. BUt I never, never have I posted bashing other characters. So how can you say Im biased? When all that I posted Is If Hinata were to have some major power up, then that would give Sakura a major downgrade. Then I added that Byakugan revelation is enough, context-ually.

I am no bias. Hypocrite.
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Yeah because she was totally going to catch up to them right? Use your common sense lmfao. And I don't remember Naruto being hurt severely at all lolz [ ][ ]
Its right after kurama had control of Naruto read the manga. Stop making excuses for Hinata.
 

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That betrays a failure to understand Taoist philosophies of destiny.

You don't change destiny. You only change the context of destiny.

Neji's destiny was to die protecting the head branch. He chose the context of that action by defending his friend.

Naruto's destiny is to fulfil the goal of Ninshuu - to bring peace to the unruly sequence of events brought about by Kaguya's decision. He will decide the context of that. Either he fails (joins Obito) and the world falls under Infinite Tsukuyomi - or he succeeds.

Naruto never changes his destiny. He only chooses the context of that destiny. Moreover, Neji couldn't actually see Naruto's destiny. When the Hyuuga reference their vision of destiny - they speak of it in relative terms. "Your destiny is to protect this person. Your destiny is the same as that person." This is not unlike the legends of what a Shinigami's eyes can see (destiny/fate) - but it is interestingly limited.

The only one in the series, so far, who has spoken of destined events is the Elder Toad.
If there is such a thing called destiny in the NV, it would be fully equipped with everything that is relevant to the story, therefore destiny context is in itself contradictory.

The elder sage Toad specifically mention the following words: "And eventually you will be FORCED to make a CHOICE.. the path you TAKE WILL determine the FATE of the world" Chapter 376, page 13 and 14. You literally branched out the single most important factor that is choice. Obviously, fate is destiny just word play here and there. J-man could have chosen a different path will could have led the story to a completely different outcome. "The results of their revolution will be one or the other, they will finally bring peace to the world or utterly destroy it", the elder toad sage remarks. See? Same as Neji, his characterization ends with a high note as a callback to Naruto's speech. That is not a coincidence." WHY WOULD YOU GO THIS FAR FOR ME, SACRIFICING YOUR OWN LIFE? BECAUSE I AM CALLED A GENIUS". To me, that is not destiny. There is no predetermined or destined overtone in that conversation whether or not Neji HAS to be a fodder or not. It is all there and you misinterpreted it.

Naruto changes his "destiny" with his bare fist of hardworking and endurance. Kishi has never made Naruto go back on his word through the whole series, it would be ****ing stupid if he ever do so. If anything, if Naruto follows his destiny that undermines the series gigantic theme, he would have already been a Garaa, or even Madara as Itachi address. Although I do understand and appreciate the concept of Ninshuu, you are flawed when said his destiny is to deliver such notion. The guys has been shunned his whole life, he has go through all that crap, to overcome massive obstacle dude. If there is such thing as destiny, Naruto being a reincarnation of Ashura whom was described as good for nothing is anything but. Let's make this more simple:

Naruto working hard -> destined to be another hardworking. kinda contradicts itself, isn't it?
 

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Yeah because she was totally going to catch up to them right? Use your common sense lmfao. And I don't remember Naruto being hurt severely at all lolz [ ][ ]
This is sad and desperate. Naruto just got out of a Kyuubi breakdown and you use that as an excuse. SMDH..
 

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Its right after kurama had control of Naruto read the manga. Stop making excuses for Hinata.
I'm not making excuses lmao its a fact that she wasn't going to catch up to them when they were using that sand cloud.. stop being retarded. And no its not exactly right after that.. if he can fight with orochimaru in that same chapter where he tripped then no he wasn't really hurt.
 
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