Hinata hyuga the descendant of 2nd sage of six paths (power up)

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To all the people flat out saying it won't happen are going to look like jackasses if it does.

I learned to never rule out possibilities. If Kishi wanted to make the hyuuga relevant, now would be the time.

More importantly, I want to see Hanabi unlock a hax byakugan so I can say, Hanabi> your fav.
 

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Do the rest of k11 get some awesome descendent as well. If not then why is hinata getting singled out. Kinda suspect seeing how the rest of k11 is just as important.
 

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If the SO6P says that the Uzumaki and the Hyuga came from His Brother,then its the Uzumaki and the Hyuga who are the future and the Senju and Uchiha who are the past.
 

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I just looked over the thread, people think Hinata has utmost relevancy because she tried to save Naruto?

Do you know there are loads of characters who have done the same??
 

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To all the people flat out saying it won't happen are going to look like jackasses if it does.
I already have the thread for how I called it drafted.

I learned to never rule out possibilities. If Kishi wanted to make the hyuuga relevant, now would be the time.

More importantly, I want to see Hanabi unlock a hax byakugan so I can say, Hanabi> your fav.
The Hyuuga are 'Hax' by default.

Think about it a bit. When has a Hyuuga used Ninjutsu?

I had always found this suspicious. Even the most simple academy ninjutsu are not used, such as a substitution. Substitutions would be essential for any taijutsu-heavy fighter (Naruto compensates with shadowclones). While it could be argued that the Hyuuga were just 'stiff' and 'arrogant' - so were the Uchiha, and they had no qualms with doing what it took to put the smack-down on an opponent.

I then considered the possibility of a religious or cultural conviction:



Which made far more sense. If the Hyuuga knew of the sin committed by Kaguya and believed the Sage was misguided in his actions - then it would stand to reason that they would avoid the use of ninjutsu.

Of course... the power used by Kaguya was not ninjutsu. It was of another order entirely. I then drew the connection between Kaguya and the Hyuuga having 'pre-ninjutsu' abilities - which fit with the theme of Taoism. I had originally speculated that the Hyuuga were a group of Taoist priestesses/monks who adhered strongly to the philosophies of Taoism. Kaguya made a misguided attempt to resolve a problem, thereby disrupting the Tao and creating a cascade of further disruptions and unnatural conflicts that necessitated the destiny of Naruto and Hinata - rebirths of the Sage and Kaguya, respectively.

I speculated that the Hyuuga were 'mutated' by the influence of chakra because I assumed they were innately human.

This latest chapter changes some of that.

Not only was Kaguya depicted with eyes very similar to the Byakugan, she is also essentially confirmed to have an unearthly origin. She came to consume the fruit and thereby became the Moon Goddess. The Hyuuga are most likely to be cross-bred descendants of Kaguya's clan... if not the direct descendants of people from her clan. Which would mean that Kaguya originally had capabilities similar to those of a powerful Hyuuga before consuming the fruit.

I speculate that the power of a Hyuuga under the influence of this fruit is in line with that of a Taoist Master's legendary abilities.



Apparently, Taoists were the original Libertarians.

Anyway - the legends of Taoist Mastery are, essentially, the ability to freely act upon the physical world. The only god higher than a Taoist master is the force of creation, itself.

In Naruto, this would likely manifest as a Hyuuga having free domain over nature chakra. They could 'push' and 'pull' the natural currents of chakra without having to absorb it. It could be thought of as being able to 'gentle fist the universe's very leylines.'

Though this gives a sort of skewed perception of what a Juubi-Fruit Hinata would be like. Kaguya was misguided. She relied upon Wei far too much. She sought power to use that power to do what she wanted to do. Perhaps it was well intentioned - but it was inherently disruptive. Hinata would not consume the fruit out of a desire for power, but out of the need for completion. It needs to be done, now.

A true Taoist master does not require vast sums of power. A true Taoist master does what needs to be done without causing disruption. They act without acting. They see without seeing. Only by digging very deep does one uncover the actions of a Taoist master.

And Hinata has that down pat. She's been the one to show up and give him a 'push' or a 'pull' to keep him on the right path, just as she gives him credit for doing the same for her.

It may be possible for a Hyuuga to attain similar abilities without consuming the fruit of the Juubi, though to a lesser extent. If so - Hanabi would be a prime candidate for such, being a female of the head branch of the Hyuuga.

Do the rest of k11 get some awesome descendent as well. If not then why is hinata getting singled out. Kinda suspect seeing how the rest of k11 is just as important.
Why is Sasuke singled out?

Shouldn't the rest of the K11 get some kind of recognition?

I think you will find that my theory about chakra altering the physical structure of clans will come into play later. The major clans of the village (all of which comprise the K11 - spare for Sakura, Lee and Tenten as the free radicals), particularly those with the most extreme of unique clan abilities, have likely been molded over time by chakra to have those abilities (which possibly came about from various trade guilds). Though I do not know if we will get that deep into an explanation of ninja clan origins.

This would be something out of left field. There's no reason for this to happen and nothing implying this happening.
You know... I bash Kishi a lot for his mediocre story telling. Rather than incorporating information into the plot of the story, we get kindergarten-level flashbacks that explain everything for us, rather than a story that drops hints and clues before it finally snaps into focus for a character or plot. There are numerous plot holes, and characters are used and abused arbitrarily for themes that could have been much more creatively done.

That said - Naruto has included just about every Japanese legend, fable, and deity imaginable (well, probably not all...).

There are very deep running philosophical themes that extend beyond the very shallow: "Friendship" and "Cycle of Hatred" themes that are literally painted for us. Taoism runs very deep in the series (which makes sense, as it integrated with Shintoism and Buddhism very strongly, as well as Hinduism). He really goes above and beyond with his inclusion and networking in of religions, legends, fables, etc. It's quite impressive.

The thing is, though, that you actually have to educate yourself beyond data books and manga pages. You have to look 'beneath the underneath' as Kakashi would say.

Now, that said - factors change. It is very difficult for any of us to try and predict things which have yet to be included. I would have never anticipated a "God Tree" because I am not nearly as familiar with Japanese cultural mythology, and even if I was - I could easily have missed it (although the wood abilities of the Senju and Zetsu should have been a tip-off).

That said - the established character themes can be used to predict how things will play out (and why), as well as give some limited predictions regarding plot events.

Though, notably, Hinata could choose to somehow destroy the fruit, return it to the tree, etc ("Shikkon Jewel, Disappear.") - She does not necessarily have to consume it to fulfill her destiny. Ultimately, though, she must play a role in deciding what happens to the fruit. I make the supposition that she consumes the fruit in a counter-balancing context to how Kaguya consumed the fruit.

But there are many different ways that particular event can go. The important point is that Hinata will play a key role in that event.
 

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Do the rest of k11 get some awesome descendent as well. If not then why is hinata getting singled out. Kinda suspect seeing how the rest of k11 is just as important.
I wouldn't be surprised if people were getting excited at the possibility of an explanation about the byakugan. Sharingan and rinnegan have been getting all of the attention. Even if it were to turn out to be a false hope, at least some new theories have been popping up about the history of the dojutsu with the least-known background.
 
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In regards to Hinata actually playing a major role; I'm not so sure.... unless we have like another major arc after this; I don't see it happening. But with the way things look-we actually might get more.

Hanabi > Hinata...
hanabi--> hinata
Hinata's in the war yet Hanabi isn't. YOu should shut your mouth and think about this for some time

Do the rest of k11 get some awesome descendent as well. If not then why is hinata getting singled out. Kinda suspect seeing how the rest of k11 is just as important.
Simply because she has a Dojutsu

I look at your username and see the biased opinion in your post.
Ino and Sakura has done more than this shy heathen. Nothing suggests otherwise.

>Sakura figured out the secret of the Zetsu
>She healed part if not most of the SA
>Ino controlled the Juubi for a good 5 seconds (God status)
>Ino helped Shikamaru and Choji fight Asuma

>What did Hinata do? And even now, she is falling on her ass barely able to do anything. Even when she tried to use the 64 palms she could barely do that.

I'm tired of all this Hinata wank. The only use for her is through pairing wars and even that is irrelevant considering Kishi doesn't care about that stuff. Hinata has met her match. Deal with it.
Clear biased here; you dismiss Hinata's role in stopping the Juubi along side with Ino. Neither could have done it without the other.

Saved Naruto from Pain; and in turn - Konoha
Saved him from Obito's TNJ - Pretty pivitol role in the Obito-Naruto parallel I might add
Saved him from Neji - He would have been killed otherwise
Saved him from wooden spikes
Saved Neji during the War from a Sneak attack

In 616, when Naruto was spreading chakra to the alliance; Obito via the Juubi tried to stop him; yet it was Hinata who deflects that tailed beast's attack and allows for Naruto to continue on; giving the alliance power

In 617; She fixes Naruto's shoulder via Jyuuken - allowing for him to complete his Rasenshuriken attack against Obito and in turn preventing any catastrophe.

In fact, both in the Chuunin Exams and [partially] after Pain's arc, Hinata is the reason he chooses to control Kurama's power.
 
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