[VS] rinnegan obito vs prime nagato

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@ bolded, now you get it but Obito during the war went through far worse than nagato did against the villagers and naruto.

Well, Obito used omyoudon because he was the juubi's jinchuuriki yet still able to absorb Madara's sage mode because he was once linked with natural chakra.

Inzanagi is a yin yang technique too, and he has others he can preform too.

While nagato can't make Obito slip up, he has way more experience to make a mistake.

He fought how many kages now?

Yeah not sure what is happening with the bold type but anyway good point but Nagato has fought a couple of kage level shinobi. A few examples are Kakashi, Killer Bee, Naruto, Itachi, Jiraiya and Hanzo to name a few. He also fought a couple of the akatsuki in order to get them to join. I consider them to be at least kage level if not higher for some of them. But i do agree in that Izanagi is just one of obito's wide arsenal which he gained from Madara's teachings but Nagato's is wide to as he can use much more of the Six paths techs that other people are claiming he just hasn't used them. So i wouldn't underestimate him.
 

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For the love of God i will say it very simply PROVE that he used on of the six paths techs.

The burden of proof is on you, not me. I'm not trying to prove that nagato made up some random new jutsu, you're the one creating a jutsu so you need to prove that it even exists, let alone nagato using it. Show me what it looks like, or how it works, tell me it's weakness, it's limits, it's name at least.

You can't give me any of this information, you just give me these speculations & assumptions because of the way the shinobi died. & on the other hand nakara path can easily take care of them without any fuss, but even when I present that to you you deny it, lol.

The Nakara path also requires the king of hell. Now tell me how an 8 year old Nagato would know to summon the King of Hell and use it as an interrogation tool to kill the shinobi.

Nagato was unconscious, he had no idea what he was doing or what he did. [ ] Please, don't tell me you think nagato was aware of his actions now... Now you're blatantly denying the manga. u_u

Who said nagato needs to know how to summon the king of hell? He was unaware of his actions so he used the rinnegan without even knowing.

& he could've simply killed the shinobi without asking them questions, or asked why they did it but they were too scared to answer.

Fact is it doesnt matter because nagato using nakara path is more likely than a new jutsu being used [one that you created], altogether.

What possible use could Nagato have to interrogate them??. However my new jutsu that might have used in times of great stress or fear like in the two situations when he did kill the 3 shinobi can be used unconsciously as it does completely fit the bill in that no one is severely injured, the room is left tidy and the shinobi are dead with no visible sign of injury. Anyone of these would be a factor in their deaths if one of the six paths techs was used. Now as i said earlier PROVE that your right and that he used on of the six paths techs.

Nakara, human, preta, & asura are all equal possibilities & you don't have the slightest idea whether or not he used any of those paths to kill the shinobi.

Nagato using a path is more likely than your fanfiction, therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove whether or not nagato utilized a brand new jutsu, because currently there is no such thing that even exists in his arsenal.
 

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The burden of proof is on you, not me. I'm not trying to prove that nagato made up some random new jutsu, you're the one creating a jutsu so you need to prove that it even exists, let alone nagato using it. Show me what it looks like, or how it works, tell me it's weakness, it's limits, it's name at least.

You can't give me any of this information, you just give me these speculations & assumptions because of the way the shinobi died. & on the other hand nakara path can easily take care of them without any fuss, but even when I present that to you you deny it, lol.



Nagato was unconscious, he had no idea what he was doing or what he did. [ ] Please, don't tell me you think nagato was aware of his actions now... Now you're blatantly denying the manga. u_u

Who said nagato needs to know how to summon the king of hell? He was unaware of his actions so he used the rinnegan without even knowing.

& he could've simply killed the shinobi without asking them questions, or asked why they did it but they were too scared to answer.



Nakara, human, preta, & asura are all equal possibilities & you don't have the slightest idea whether or not he used any of those paths to kill the shinobi.

Nagato using a path is more likely than your fanfiction, therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove whether or not nagato utilized a brand new jutsu, because currently there is no such thing that even exists in his arsenal.

What is the point in you saying that he used one of the six paths techs if you aren't prepared to back up what you have said. Also the Nakara path would summon the king of hell who is bigger than the room it would damage it in some way but because there no damage to the room it couldn't have been it. The same goes for the asura path there would have been damage to his house if explosions were used or there would be huge stab wounds on the konoha shinobi if he stabbed them with the huge knife seen on the asura paths back. So no nagato using a path is not a more likely possibility than my fan fiction as you call it. My fanfiction would not damage the house in anyway ad there would be no visible signs of injury to the shinobi he killed which there aren't however if a paths tech was used there would be which is what i have been saying this entire time. Now stop spouting that the burden of proof is on me i have provided an explanation at least 3 times now where as you have just avoided it.
 

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What is the point in you saying that he used one of the six paths techs if you aren't prepared to back up what you have said.

Because I don't need to, lol. You're the one saying he used some random new jutsu so you're the one who needs to prove that it wasn't one of the likely paths at his disposal.

Also the Nakara path would summon the king of hell who is bigger than the room it would damage it in some way but because there no damage to the room it couldn't have been it.

King of hell doesn't damage terrain, it appears from a fire & it doesn't need to fully extend, do you forget how far out it stretched when nagato used rinne tensei? [ ] King of hell could have simply poked a bit of it's head out seeing as nagato was fairly new with the rinnegan anyways.

Oh my goodness why am I even arguing this in any case? Lol As I said it doesnt matter, where is your proof that nagato used a new technique, I still don't know it's name or what it does, but of course it's up to your imagination right?

The same goes for the asura path there would have been damage to his house if explosions were used or there would be huge stab wounds on the konoha shinobi if he stabbed them with the huge knife seen on the asura paths back.

You really don't know much about your favorite apparently...Asura tentacles can strangle them without any problem. [ ]

Idk why you think nagato is going to be using his rinnegan to it's fullest potential for the first time. Are you fanboying? Must be.

So no nagato using a path is not a more likely possibility than my fan fiction as you call it. My fanfiction would not damage the house in anyway ad there would be no visible signs of injury to the shinobi he killed which there aren't however if a paths tech was used there would be which is what i have been saying this entire time. Now stop spouting that the burden of proof is on me i have provided an explanation at least 3 times now where as you have just avoided it.

I haven't avoided anything, I'm addressing all of your bs points. For example, how do you know that your fanfiction won't damage the house? Do you know how this fanfiction jutsu looks? Do you know how it works? Do you know anything about it? Nope, you don't even know if a fanfiction jutsu was used or if a fanfiction jutsu even exists, because that's the point of fanfiction.

By the way nice job avoiding human path, the path that's most likely & the path that tears your argument apart.

Just admit you're wrong, you clearly don't know what you're talking about & I think I proved that a few posts back, the hole can't go any deeper at this point.
 

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Yeah not sure what is happening with the bold type but anyway good point but Nagato has fought a couple of kage level shinobi. A few examples are Kakashi, Killer Bee, Naruto, Itachi, Jiraiya and Hanzo to name a few. He also fought a couple of the akatsuki in order to get them to join. I consider them to be at least kage level if not higher for some of them. But i do agree in that Izanagi is just one of obito's wide arsenal which he gained from Madara's teachings but Nagato's is wide to as he can use much more of the Six paths techs that other people are claiming he just hasn't used them. So i wouldn't underestimate him.

Well I don't about fighting akatsuki to get in part, but I do know that pain has other rinnegan techniques.

Just not limbo
 

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Because I don't need to, lol. You're the one saying he used some random new jutsu so you're the one who needs to prove that it wasn't one of the likely paths at his disposal.



King of hell doesn't damage terrain, it appears from a fire & it doesn't need to fully extend, do you forget how far out it stretched when nagato used rinne tensei? [ ] King of hell could have simply poked a bit of it's head out seeing as nagato was fairly new with the rinnegan anyways.

Oh my goodness why am I even arguing this in any case? Lol As I said it doesnt matter, where is your proof that nagato used a new technique, I still don't know it's name or what it does, but of course it's up to your imagination right?



You really don't know much about your favorite apparently...Asura tentacles can strangle them without any problem. [ ]

Idk why you think nagato is going to be using his rinnegan to it's fullest potential for the first time. Are you fanboying? Must be.



I haven't avoided anything, I'm addressing all of your bs points. For example, how do you know that your fanfiction won't damage the house? Do you know how this fanfiction jutsu looks? Do you know how it works? Do you know anything about it? Nope, you don't even know if a fanfiction jutsu was used or if a fanfiction jutsu even exists, because that's the point of fanfiction.

By the way nice job avoiding human path, the path that's most likely & the path that tears your argument apart.

Just admit you're wrong, you clearly don't know what you're talking about & I think I proved that a few posts back, the hole can't go any deeper at this point.

The Human path when it extracts a soul leaves the victim with lots of saliva coming out of the mouth and they drool a lot. This happens to shizune during the invasion of pain arc along with all of the other shinobi who were working for Hanzo who had their souls removed by Nagato using the Gedo Mazo but it uses a similar principle. Also there is no point in arguing with you as you keep on repeating the same thing that i need to have proof. There isn't any it is a hypothesis of mine that has some actual evidence to support it. It is consistent with what happened at Nagato's house as i have already explained. You on the other hand keep refusing to provide evidence for your claims. There is no double standard here i have already provided my evidence to support my theory whereas you just keep disregarding my evidence and ask me for more. So until you actually are willing to come up with some logical reasons as to why your theory is correct then there is no point in continuing this debate as you just keep saying the same things no matter how much i provide logical reasoning to my theory to support it whereas you provide none.
 

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Well I don't about fighting akatsuki to get in part, but I do know that pain has other rinnegan techniques.

Just not limbo

Hasn't happened in the manga or the anime yet but Kishimoto is making a whole new story line as to how Pain and Konan recruited the Akatsuki members in the new game Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution and Kishimoto said it can be regarded as fact.
 

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People can't be seriously debating this... Obito's Bijuu stomps...
 

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Hasn't happened in the manga or the anime yet but Kishimoto is making a whole new story line as to how Pain and Konan recruited the Akatsuki members in the new game Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution and Kishimoto said it can be regarded as fact.

Oh that, well it's not factual as of now.
 

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The Human path when it extracts a soul leaves the victim with lots of saliva coming out of the mouth and they drool a lot. This happens to shizune during the invasion of pain arc along with all of the other shinobi who were working for Hanzo who had their souls removed by Nagato using the Gedo Mazo but it uses a similar principle.

Drool has only appeared one time & who knows how long nakara path was interrogating the shinobi. Next time you use evidence, bring scans to back it up because you just lost all credibility.

1. Fodder drools from being interrogated, the drool is not a lot either. [ ]

2. Shizune doesn't drool at at, thereby contradicting your statement completely. [ ][ ]

3. Hanzo's dogs were wearing masks, thereby proving that you didnt even bother to confirm the nonsense you posted. [ ]

Also there is no point in arguing with you as you keep on repeating the same thing that i need to have proof.

You do, you don't have any.

There isn't any it is a hypothesis of mine that has some actual evidence to support it.

"Hypothesis" being the keyword, you don't know if it's true or not meaning you can't use it an a battle.

It is consistent with what happened at Nagato's house as i have already explained.

Plenty of paths can produce an identical result.

You on the other hand keep refusing to provide evidence for your claims.

Laughable, I've proven that your theory is just that so you can't use it in a battle. You even admitted to me that this is something you can't confirm but rather a hypothesis, so I don't need to provide any sort of proof lol, if I did I would but I don't. You're the one making outrageous claims & stating them to be true, not me, I merely proved you wrong.

There is no double standard here i have already provided my evidence to support my theory whereas you just keep disregarding my evidence and ask me for more.

Yes there is, I'm saying that nagato didnt use a brand new jutsu, you're saying that he did. You need to prove to me that nagato can use more than the six path jutsus with his rinnegan otherwise what you spout is fanfiction, so it holds no merit here.

You know what? Since this mystery jutsu is featless I can simply go on to say that it for 1, knocks nagato out & 2, gets bypassed via kamui. Either way you can't prove me wrong so this jutsu of yours is useless.

So until you actually are willing to come up with some logical reasons as to why your theory is correct then there is no point in continuing this debate as you just keep saying the same things no matter how much i provide logical reasoning to my theory to support it whereas you provide none.

I don't theorize, I go by facts. The facts say that nagato has no new jutsu, the facts say that if nagato used the rinnegan on those shinobi then he used one of the six paths jutsus unless you can prove to me that he has more. It's common sense & only a fanboy would disagree.
 
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