[VS] rinnegan obito vs prime nagato

[swirlyshark]

restrictions: Gedo statue, chibaku tense I
intent: kill
location: field sunny

I think prime nagato wins he has showed better feats with rinnegan

 

[VongolaX]

Obito wins mid diff

Even if you give Nagato chibakui tensei, he'll just go intangible.

 

[Avinash012]

MS Obito > Nagato,let alone Rinnegan Obito.

 

[VongolaX]

MS Obito > Nagato,let alone Rinnegan Obito.

Agreed good sir, it has been established ever since Tobi revealed his identity as leader.

 

[Draphsin]

Give nagato cbt & he still loses.

Obito low-mid diff.

 

[Bronze]

Nagato high diff.

 

[likeastar20]

Obito got this.

 

[swirlyshark]

but I prime pain like the one that fought itachi and naruto and killer but without Edo tensei body

 

[Azurestealth]

Nagato has 20 plus years of experience with the rinnegan and yeah obito would beat nagato if he was in his walker but this is prime nagato. The closest we have to seeing prime nagato would be edo nagato and it took 2 jinchurikis and itachi to just break out of chibaku tensei and if you want restrict that it's fine nagato would still win. Obito doesn't have any attack other than kamui to use against nagato that could harm him because of the preta path. The only type of genjutsu that would work would be sound based but obito has made no indication that he can use it. However as obito also has the rinnegan he also has access to these abilities but as he hasn't shown any of their abilities and if he could he would've used them against gai naruto kakashi and b but he didn't. Therefore you would assume that for whatever reason he can't use them. Because of this down to pure experience with the rinnegan i will say Nagato mid diff beats obito.

 

[VongolaX]

Nagato has 20 plus years of experience with the rinnegan and yeah obito would beat nagato if he was in his walker but this is prime nagato. The closest we have to seeing prime nagato would be edo nagato and it took 2 jinchurikis and itachi to just break out of chibaku tensei and if you want restrict that it's fine nagato would still win. Obito doesn't have any attack other than kamui to use against nagato that could harm him because of the preta path. The only type of genjutsu that would work would be sound based but obito has made no indication that he can use it. However as obito also has the rinnegan he also has access to these abilities but as he hasn't shown any of their abilities and if he could he would've used them against gai naruto kakashi and b but he didn't. Therefore you would assume that for whatever reason he can't use them. Because of this down to pure experience with the rinnegan i will say Nagato mid diff beats obito.

Obito has more experience than Nagato dude. :|

Madara taught him all the six path Justus and yin yang release before he even met Nagato.

Madara who just got the rinnegan just proved everything you posted here wrong.

Also, let's not forget it was kcm naruto and v2 bee, while Obito beat full Hachibi and kcm naruto before Gai and Kakashi got there.
(Yet he was still winning with two more body count).

 

[Azurestealth]

Obito wins mid diff

Even if you give Nagato chibakui tensei, he'll just go intangible.

Obito can only go intangible for up to 5 minutes as stated in his fight against konan so how is he going to survive getting out of chibaku tensei. As once he is intagible he won't be able to crawl his way out like 8 tails kyubbi did. And if he wants to kamui out of it first he would have to become tangible and pretty much as soon as he did he would be crushed by the sheer weight and gravitational pull of chibaku tensei.

 

[Azurestealth]

Obito has more experience than Nagato dude. :|

Madara taught him all the six path Justus and yin yang release before he even met Nagato.

Madara who just got the rinnegan just proved everything you posted here wrong.

Also, let's not forget it was kcm naruto and v2 bee, while Obito beat full Hachibi and kcm naruto before Gai and Kakashi got there.
(Yet he was still winning with two more body count).

Yes obito has more experience as he was taught by Madara that much is true. But it still doesn't change the fact that at most obito had the rinnegan for no more than a year. Hence Nagato has more experience with the rinnegan not in general but with the rinnegan. Even so Nagato knows exactly how the techniques work with the rinnegan whereas obito has only demonstrated that he can maniplate the gedo statue and use the chakra chains. He has never shown that he can use any of the standard rinnegan techniques by himself like nagato can. Obito can't use shinra tensei bansho tennin or even chibaku tensei. So tell me how obito would beat nagato with his rinnegan

 

[Draphsin]

Obito can only go intangible for up to 5 minutes as stated in his fight against konan so how is he going to survive getting out of chibaku tensei. As once he is intagible he won't be able to crawl his way out like 8 tails kyubbi did. And if he wants to kamui out of it first he would have to become tangible and pretty much as soon as he did he would be crushed by the sheer weight and gravitational pull of chibaku tensei.

Lol cbt is child's play, he warps out before he gets crushed or he bypasses it completely via intangibility. I don't even know where you got the bold from.

 

[Azurestealth]

Lol cbt is child's play, he warps out before he gets crushed or he bypasses it completely via intangibility. I don't even know where you got the bold from.

First of neither do i about the bold but anyway Chibaku tensei is not childs play for obito. If he wanted to warp away he would need to become tangible for a bit leaving him vulnerable against chibaku tensei. And if you don't agree with that that's fine but nagato has something obito can't counter. If you remember when nagato's parents were being attacked and nagato killed those two shinobi without realising as he controls life and death because of the rinnegan then he could use the same jutsu to kill obito and as it is near instantaneous and can't be detected explain how he will beat that. If you don't accept that as well then nagato could just rip out his sharingan and rinnegan whilst using shinra tensei.

 

[Draphsin]

First of neither do i about the bold but anyway Chibaku tensei is not childs play for obito. If he wanted to warp away he would need to become tangible for a bit leaving him vulnerable against chibaku tensei.

Itachi, naruto, & killerbee all had more than enough time to think & act during cbt. Obito easily warps away.

And if you don't agree with that that's fine but nagato has something obito can't counter. If you remember when nagato's parents were being attacked and nagato killed those two shinobi without realising as he controls life and death because of the rinnegan then he could use the same jutsu to kill obito and as it is near instantaneous and can't be detected explain how he will beat that.

Lol You have no idea what nagato used to kill them & he's never shown any such jutsu. He could have used one of his many rinnegan jutsus that we already know about to kill those shinobi. You can't use an off-panel feat to justify a win.

If you don't accept that as well then nagato could just rip out his sharingan and rinnegan whilst using shinra tensei.

What? Nagato isnt ripping obito's eyes out of his sockets. Obito bypasses s/t via intangibility & warps nagato away during the cooldown.

 

[WoldOfFingo]

kamui .

 

[Azurestealth]

Itachi, naruto, & killerbee all had more than enough time to think & act during cbt. Obito easily warps away.



Lol You have no idea what nagato used to kill them & he's never shown any such jutsu. He could have used one of his many rinnegan jutsus that we already know about to kill those shinobi. You can't use an off-panel feat to justify a win.



What? Nagato isnt ripping obito's eyes out of his sockets. Obito bypasses s/t via intangibility & warps nagato away during the cooldown.

First of all if Nagato used one of his rinnegan jutsus to kill the konoha shinboi then there would have been some signs that he had used them.For example if he used shinra tensei the room around him would be very messy because of the outward push of the gravity if not destroyed. Therefore there is also more proof that there was a jutsu that allowed him to kill people just like the iwa shinobi that was attacking yahiko just suddenly dropped dead after Nagato screamed at him. If it was one of his rinnegan techs you would have know as konan and yahiko would have remembered or told him. Secondly if Nagato can pull out a nail from a wooden plank without the plank coming flying up it stands to reason that Nagato passing his chakra through a medium (Deva Path) is very accurate and precise with his chakra control. Therefore it would stand to reason that he would be able to pinpoint obito's sharingan and extract it from his head as Nagato without using the six paths can control his own chakra to a greater degree and it is more potent.

 

[VongolaX]

Yes obito has more experience as he was taught by Madara that much is true. But it still doesn't change the fact that at most obito had the rinnegan for no more than a year. Hence Nagato has more experience with the rinnegan not in general but with the rinnegan. Even so Nagato knows exactly how the techniques work with the rinnegan whereas obito has only demonstrated that he can maniplate the gedo statue and use the chakra chains. He has never shown that he can use any of the standard rinnegan techniques by himself like nagato can. Obito can't use shinra tensei bansho tennin or even chibaku tensei. So tell me how obito would beat nagato with his rinnegan

Wow you just misinterpret what I just posted.

Madara said that even if he doesn't awaken the rinnegan, he has Uchiha/Senju (allowing him to use Gedo anyway).

Which also unables him to use the six path Justus too without the rinnegan.

The only difference (compared to Nagato) is that Madara taught him who to use it through his will.

Posting that Obito doesn't have ct or shrina tensei is baseless, because even Madara hasn't shown any of them.

Even Madara said that he is the true master of his rinnegan, and people who borrowed his eyes are nothing compared to him.

Obito said he can use human path and he used the outer path.

While Madara (non Edo tensei) used Limbo: Hengoku and outer path.

Are you going to deny Madara from using any of his Justus Nagato used?

Hope not, because that is some serious wanking.

 

[eagle8]

RinneGan obito wins

 

[VongolaX]

Obito can only go intangible for up to 5 minutes as stated in his fight against konan so how is he going to survive getting out of chibaku tensei. As once he is intagible he won't be able to crawl his way out like 8 tails kyubbi did. And if he wants to kamui out of it first he would have to become tangible and pretty much as soon as he did he would be crushed by the sheer weight and gravitational pull of chibaku tensei.

Chibakui tensei doesn't even last up to five minutes.

Naruto at 8 tailed half chakra broke out of it under three minutes.

After he broke it, he was standing on top of ct in sage mode.

No pressure crusher nonsense that you receive from other base members.

Ct is to trap and create, while st is to destroy and repel.