SM Minato vs DSM Kabuto

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Boston Rob

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SM Minato is featless, DSM is the strongest SM of all anyway, so Kabuto wins.........
 

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SM doesn't help against the White Rage technique. Kabuto said that he was immune to the light as he sealed his vision away and his liquid body which he got from the Hozuki would absorb the vibrations.
 

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Minato takes this comfortably U_U
 

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SM Minato is faster than DSM Kabuto. Base Minato has one of the fastest shunshin and his reaction speed is above A in V2. Base Kabuto's physical stats are nowhere near Minato's level in terms of shunshin speed and reaction. Infact he already admitted himself in part1 to be weak in taijutsu. The natural energy only increases your base stats, so a perfect SM user like Minato would always be above DSM Kabuto simply because in their base stats, he is already above him. Now add his physical strength and durability that Kabuto lacks even in DSM, and he is comfortably above DSM Kabuto just by their physical capabilities

Kabuto implied the white rage jutsu doesn't work on Sage mode users


White rage uses sound vibration to paralyse the opponent, so it works basically similarly to the sage frog song used by Pa and Ma, and notice SM Naruto was capable to go through it without struggling unlike the summons and thus confirming Kabuto's words:

Depending on the location he may not be capable to use this move as well:

But we've already seen toad SM guaranteed Naruto to tank a similar attack:

Minato is a perfect SM user as well, so he should have no problems to tank it even if he didn't rely on dodging

To kill Kabuto? I'm pretty sure a rasengan of this size would kill him:

Before you even say Minato lacks such a feat, let me tell you that the Chou Odama rasengan is simply a rasengan in which you infused sage chakra to increase the size

Minato's base rasengan has already been shown to be bigger than normal. Since he mastered Sage Mode, it means he had high enough chakra to learn it. Adding Sage chakra into it, and there is no reason for him not being capable to use it
^^^^atleast someone has a little bit of ****ing sense lol. Minato in base would over whelm kabuto how in the hell did him beating minato in SM even bevome a anwser.

He's already farrr faster stronger and smarter then kabuto in ****ing base. Sm would over whelm kabuto to the point were its just funny for this to be a match

minato lol diff tbh
 

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SM Minato is faster than DSM Kabuto. Base Minato has one of the fastest shunshin and his reaction speed is above A in V2. Base Kabuto's physical stats are nowhere near Minato's level in terms of shunshin speed and reaction. Infact he already admitted himself in part1 to be weak in taijutsu. The natural energy only increases your base stats, so a perfect SM user like Minato would always be above DSM Kabuto simply because in their base stats, he is already above him. Now add his physical strength and durability that Kabuto lacks even in DSM, and he is comfortably above DSM Kabuto just by their physical capabilities

His jaws ripped the Susano'o ribcage apart, Minato has no feats of strength in SM anyway.

He has dodged a Susano'o arrow from Sasuke, but the Taijutsu part isn't relevant anyway since he can liquefy himself against physical attacks.
Kabuto implied the white rage jutsu doesn't work on Sage mode users


White rage uses sound vibration to paralyse the opponent, so it works basically similarly to the sage frog song used by Pa and Ma, and notice SM Naruto was capable to go through it without struggling unlike the summons and thus confirming Kabuto's words:

That's false and you know it. It's not Genjutsu, it's Sennin Ninpō. He liquefied his insides because the sound vibrates so hard it shakes the inside core of the human body. However without anything to solid matter shake (liquid body), the body effectively resists the effects of the jutsu. Minat doesn't have Hōzuki DNA, thus it works.​

Depending on the location he may not be capable to use this move as well:

But we've already seen toad SM guaranteed Naruto to tank a similar attack:

Sound torture and piercing are not the same, study biology/chemistry/physics.​

Minato is a perfect SM user as well, so he should have no problems to tank it even if he didn't rely on dodging

To kill Kabuto? I'm pretty sure a rasengan of this size would kill him:

Even when it failed to kill exhausted Kakashi? Yeah, no [ ].​

Before you even say Minato lacks such a feat, let me tell you that the Chou Odama rasengan is simply a rasengan in which you infused sage chakra to increase the size

Minato's base rasengan has already been shown to be bigger than normal. Since he mastered Sage Mode, it means he had high enough chakra to learn it. Adding Sage chakra into it, and there is no reason for him not being capable to use it

I didn't see any size difference [ ]. Even though, it still failed to kill a Kakashi, lol.​
 

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Kabuto mid diff.

Even if Minato marks the battlefield with FTG Kunai, Kabuto can always manipulate the ground with Muki Tensie to bury them down. All of Minato's summoning are manhandled by Manda II who is vastly superior to its original, that beaten Katsuya and Gamabunta singlehandedly. None of Minato's summoning are match. Even if Kabuto gets marked and taken out by Rasengan, he can always heal his injuries with Karin's DNA, or shed his skin with Orochimaru's DNA. Taking out Minato is no trouble, as he releases the Senpō Hakugeki no Jutsu to immobilize Minato, and proceeds to finish him off.
 

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Kabuto wins easy diff
He can negate or lessen sound genjutsu and beat with his own.
His survivability is of the charts too.
 

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SM Minato is DSM Kabuto's worst enemy. Kabuto's abilities heavily depend on his environment.

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Kabuto clearly needs enclosed spaces to operate at his full potential. Being in an open space probably reduces the effectiveness of white rage and inorganic reanimation. This area is not necessarily an open space, but there are open spaces in this area. Since Minato is a teleporter, and if he has kunai around, he will be the one deciding which parts of this map the battle will take place. If Minato forces that battle into an open space, Kabuto won't be as effective as he was with the Uchiha brothers.


Minato can win this for sure.
 

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SM Minato is DSM Kabuto's worst enemy. Kabuto's abilities heavily depend on his environment.

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Kabuto clearly needs enclosed spaces to operate at his full potential.


Yeah tell how minato beats kabuto at ocean surface, sorta like gai and kisame place :rolleyes:
 

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SM Minato is DSM Kabuto's worst enemy. Kabuto's abilities heavily depend on his environment.

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Kabuto clearly needs enclosed spaces to operate at his full potential. Being in an open space probably reduces the effectiveness of white rage and inorganic reanimation. This area is not necessarily an open space, but there are open spaces in this area. Since Minato is a teleporter, and if he has kunai around, he will be the one deciding which parts of this map the battle will take place. If Minato forces that battle into an open space, Kabuto won't be as effective as he was with the Uchiha brothers.


Minato can win this for sure.

To bad there is no place Minato can throw FTG from an "outside" space, since the match starts where Jiraya fights Pein[ ].


I didn't even notice the location from the beginning. Kabuto easily takes this now.
 

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Yeah tell how minato beats kabuto at ocean surface, sorta like gai and kisame place :rolleyes:

I was thinking more along these lines.

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To bad there is no place Minato can throw FTG from an "outside" space, since the match starts where Jiraya fights Pein[ ].


I didn't even notice the location from the beginning. Kabuto easily takes this now.


Ransengan to the wall will fix that. On top of that, he can have clones do it. Or he could simply body flicker away. Considering base Minato's speed is>>>base Kabuto's, SM Minato's speed>>>DSM Kabuto's speed
 
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Bogard only due to Kabuto absorbing Suigetsus body abilities can he withstand White Rage.
 

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DSM Kabuto takes this medium difficulty, white rage vibrates bones which paralyzes, and halts vision. Not only does that give Kabuto time to use Muki Tensei, it also gives him time to either wrap it up with Kidomaru's arrows, Kimmimaro's bones, there's endless possibilites.
 

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DSM Kabuto takes this medium difficulty, white rage vibrates bones which paralyzes, and halts vision. Not only does that give Kabuto time to use Muki Tensei, it also gives him time to either wrap it up with Kidomaru's arrows, Kimmimaro's bones, there's endless possibilites.

All of which Minato can evade in an open environment only a ransengan away.
 

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@Naruto X man, Minato hitting Kabuto with Rasengan will change nothing, as the latter has the highest advanced healing and regeneration properties produced in the Manga. Karin's healing ability, Orochimaru's healing abilities as well as shedding his body to regenerate any lost organ, limb or heal basically. And Kabuto will not get speedblitz by Minato. Kabuto was keeping and outspeeding Itachi, whos Shunshin catched Killer Bee off guard, who reacted to Minato's FTG twice.
 

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@Naruto X man, Minato hitting Kabuto with Rasengan will change nothing, as the latter has the highest advanced healing and regeneration properties produced in the Manga. Karin's healing ability, Orochimaru's healing abilities as well as shedding his body to regenerate any lost organ, limb or heal basically. And Kabuto will not get speedblitz by Minato. Kabuto was keeping and outspeeding Itachi, whos Shunshin catched Killer Bee off guard, who reacted to Minato's FTG twice.


You misunderstood the context of my post. I was saying that all Minato has to do is ransengan a wall to get into an open urban environment that suits his FTG quite well. Minato has superior reflexes to base Kabuto, therefore, when both are in SM, Minato will be the one catching Kabuto off-guard. Bee watched from a distance at the first time. He didn't instantly respond to Minato the second time. Minato was trying to use him as a hostage, and as such, wasn't actually attacking and was most likely halting long enough for everyone to understand the situation. It's not a significant reaction feat at all considering even the fodder saw him and saw what was going on.

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How will he evade sound genjutsu of kabuto?


As he runs away and throws kunai, he'll teleport outside its range once Kabuto decides to use it. Also, the hokages traveled through countries with very little time. They are definitely faster than sound.
 

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All of which Minato can evade in an open environment only a ransengan away.

What? How is he going to evade anything when he's paralyzed by that or Sound Genjutsu? Don't give me the biting lip crap, two Sharingana users had to use Genjutsu on each other to free themselves.
 
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