EMS Sasuke (restricted) takes on a gauntlet

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Nah not really. [ ]
Naruto didn't use shunshin until Ay went V2.. before that he used foot speed that kept up with V1 Ay as said by Tsunade so I don't see how its trolling.
And? your point? Never said he did or didn't. Naruto's shunshin>Sasuke's shunshin... other then that they are equal in speed.
Looks shunshin to me U_U
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Like I said earlier, there is no proof that they both used Shunshin, let alone that they went full speed.
Yes they crawled. You're right U_U. No proof any1 ever goes their full speed unless they specifically state so or kishi leaves a note right?
 

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Whatever you say bro you'd say anything to get Sasuke on Naruto's level of speed then again you said sasuke's hawk summon was faster than BM Naruto
I dont have to say anything i can simply post a scan where you will be saying everything to deny it U_U

And hawk is superior form of transportation, no matter how you look at it.
Nope, obviously, they were both running. But there is just no proof to you claim.
To what claim? You honestly think naruto would held anything off while saving sakura? Do you not know your fave?
 

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KCM cloak doesn't increase Naruto's striking speed lmao. It is just base Naruto with a shit ton of chakra, and bijuu arms. His reflexes are not even that great compared to SM Naruto. Sasuke murks KCM Naruto, but is nowhere near his shunshin speed.

How the hell do you compare V2 Bee to EMS Sasuke?
 

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KCM cloak doesn't increase Naruto's striking speed lmao. It is just base Naruto with a shit ton of chakra, and bijuu arms. His reflexes are not even that great compared to SM Naruto. Sasuke murks KCM Naruto, but is nowhere near his shunshin speed.
So you are saying that even base Naruto would be able to dodge V2 A? You cant be serious.
To what claim? You honestly think naruto would held anything off while saving sakura? Do you not know your fave?
Like I said earlier, neither of them had to go with full speed becuase of ranged techniques they both have. Besides, Naruto is not my favorite character.
 
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KCM cloak doesn't increase Naruto's striking speed lmao. It is just base Naruto with a shit ton of chakra, and bijuu arms. His reflexes are not even that great compared to SM Naruto. Sasuke murks KCM Naruto, but is nowhere near his shunshin speed.

How the hell do you compare V2 Bee to EMS Sasuke?
Kisame would have dodged Naruto's strike if only he knew that bold fact in above post.
 

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Kisame would have dodged Naruto's strike if only he knew that bold fact in above post.
His striking speed became irrelevant against Kisame due to a fast Shunshin speed. It's the same case with Ay, his Shunshin is far above most shinobi's Shunshin but his striking speed is mediocre, which is why Sasuke's Sharingan could follow his combat speed but not his Shunshin. Kisame couldn't follow Naruto's Shunshin so it didn't really matter whether or not his striking speed was slow.
 

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His striking speed became irrelevant against Kisame due to a fast Shunshin speed. It's the same case with Ay, his Shunshin is far above most shinobi's Shunshin but his striking speed is mediocre, which is why Sasuke's Sharingan could follow his combat speed but not his Shunshin. Kisame couldn't follow Naruto's Shunshin so it didn't really matter whether or not his striking speed was slow.
So u think KCM Only increases his foot speed? Then plz explain why a weaker version of KCM Naruto managed to stalemate Uchiha Itachi with his taijutsu when Base Naruto is nowhere near Itachi's level?
 

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So u think KCM Only increases his foot speed? Then plz explain why a weaker version of KCM Naruto managed to stalemate Uchiha Itachi with his taijutsu when Base Naruto is nowhere near Itachi's level?
I dosent have any sense, anyway. Why would KCM increase only the speed of your legs, and not the whole body?
 

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I dosent have any sense, anyway. Why would KCM increase only the speed of your legs, and not the whole body?
That is what Iam asking him,they are saying that KCM only increased Naruto's speed but not other aspects.If it really didn't increased other skills of Naruto then how in blue hell he managed to fight on par with Itachi's taijutsu?

Still waiting for Touke's answer.
 

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Thats the common knowledge. Look how madara trolled SM nardo with base alone.
Madara has much more chakra than Sasuke, so this comparison doesn't work for your argument, which says that Shunshin is dependent on the power of chakra.

There is however another possible explanation behind sasuke's increased physical attributes.
MS put enormous strain on body even more so susanoo. Sasuke noted how every cell of his was in pain due to exhaustion.
After a body recuperates from such physical stress is actually gets stronger.
Sasuke already had 4.5 speed he could get another 0.5 from MS usage.
That doesn't push him to KCM Naruto's level when it coems to speed. Not to mention Shunshin isn't completely dependent on physical abilities, otherwise KCM Naruto wouldn't be any faster than Base Naruto. Kurama's chakra is what makes him faster, it doesn't enhance his physical abilities that greatly.




Shunsin is still viable in CQC to land a blow or to dodge one.
While in CQC? No, its not. But if you use it to take your enemy by surprise before entering CQC, then yes, it is. It can also be used to evade, but doing that pretty much ends the CQC right there.

What? Denying manga scans? Are we? I already said its not only sasuke who trolled KCM. It's nardo's speed wanking phase that was too long.
There is no manga scan that shows him being faster than KCM, nothing was trolled in this manga. Its just you fanboys wanking Sasuke as usual. I'm still not seeing any definitive proof. As Turson said, you are offering nothing but your interpretation. An interpretation I'm not interested in, especially since its so flawed.
 

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So you are saying that even base Naruto would be able to dodge V2 A? You cant be serious.
Base wouldn't have dodge but not because of his reflexes who are equal to KCM Naruto like Penguin mention but because he lacks the negative sensing ability, the only thing that helped KCM Naruto to dodge the attack
 

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Kisame would have dodged Naruto's strike if only he knew that bold fact in above post.
No. Kisame was blitz'd with foot speed then hit, not fast striking speed. Striking speed is like Tobirama tagging Juubito five times. Very quick hits in a short amount of time. Gai and Neji have great striking speed. Not KCM Naruto, who stalemated with Itachi.

So you are saying that even base Naruto would be able to dodge V2 A? You cant be serious.


Like I said earlier, neither of them had to go with full speed becuase of ranged techniques they both have. Besides, Naruto is not my favorite character.
Of course it increases his reflexes a bit, given the speed boost, but not as good as SM.

Base wouldn't have dodge but not because of his reflexes who are equal to KCM Naruto like Penguin mention but because he lacks the negative sensing ability, the only thing that helped KCM Naruto to dodge the attack
Thank you. I think.
 
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Base wouldn't have dodge but not because of his reflexes who are equal to KCM Naruto like Penguin mention but because he lacks the negative sensing ability, the only thing that helped KCM Naruto to dodge the attack
I agree with that, although I dont think that their punching speed is medicore. After all, Raiton armor and Kyuubi chakra cloak enwraps their whole bodies, including arms, not only legs.
 

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Isn't it obviously means that his striking speed increased?
No, there's a difference between striking speed and Shunshin. Lemme use the Ay example again; Sasuke tried blitzing Ay at the 5 Kage Summit and obviously, Ay easily reacted, and he matched Sasuke's Shunshin with combat speed [ ][ ]. Although, Sasuke's Sharingan easily read his striking speed and so was able to land a hit on him [ ][ ]. But when Ay started to do the blitzing, Sasuke's Sharingan couldn't keep up at all [ ]. Striking speed, Shunshin and reaction speed are completely independent. Striking speed's important in a battle where both shinobi's Shunshin are equal, or more less comparable to each other.
 

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Guys c'mon. Sasuke is not as fast as KCM Naruto or Ay, but he doesn't need to be. He can follow and react to speeds much faster than those with no effort. He doesn't need that kind speed in order to clear this gauntlet.
 
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