EMS Sasuke (restricted) takes on a gauntlet

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Madara has much more chakra than Sasuke, so this comparison doesn't work for your argument, which says that Shunshin is dependent on the power of chakra.
Stronger chakra ups base speed which is used then for shunshin. Even for shunshin less of stronger chakra would give good results.
That doesn't push him to KCM Naruto's level when it coems to speed. Not to mention Shunshin isn't completely dependent on physical abilities, otherwise KCM Naruto wouldn't be any faster than Base Naruto. Kurama's chakra is what makes him faster, it doesn't enhance his physical abilities that greatly.
It was base foot speed, with foot speed alone KCM isnt anything special either as its 3.5 enhanced by KCM.
He was able to open 4-tails mouth , he has strength to throw FRS. Physical enhancement if off the charts U_U
There is no manga scan that shows him being faster than KCM, nothing was trolled in this manga. Its just you fanboys wanking Sasuke as usual. I'm still not seeing any definitive proof. As Turson said, you are offering nothing but your interpretation. An interpretation I'm not interested in, especially since its so flawed.
Nothing is flawed here. A base speed is important for shunshin. A shunshin just like most jutsus have limited amount of chakra that can be used. Exceptions would be V2 stages such as V2 Ay or BM naruto, where biju levels of chakra are pumped.
 

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No, there's a difference between striking speed and Shunshin.
U don't have to explain it as Iam aware of the difference b/w those two.Naruto stalemated Itachi becase his taijutsu aka his striking speed was increased not because of his foot speed.

No. Kisame was blitz'd with foot speed then hit, not fast striking speed. Striking speed is like Tobirama tagging Juubito five times. Very quick hits in a short amount of time. Gai and Neji have great striking speed. Not KCM Naruto, who stalemated with Itachi.
Do u think base Naruto can fight on par with Uchiha's Itachi in a taijutsu battle?
 

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I dont have to say anything i can simply post a scan where you will be saying everything to deny it U_U

And hawk is superior form of transportation, no matter how you look at it.
lmfao sure buddy just the fact that you think sasuke is faster makes you a joke.

Yes its a better form of transportation but you didn't say that. You said the hawk was faster than BM Naruto.

Anyways I'm not going to to take Sasuke wankers seriously so we're done here.
 

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U don't have to explain it as Iam aware of the difference b/w those two.Naruto stalemated Itachi becase his taijutsu aka his striking speed was increased not because of his foot speed.


Do u think base Naruto can fight on par with Uchiha's Itachi in a taijutsu battle?
His reactions allowed him to keep up with Itachi.

But could you bring up feats of Itachi with fast striking speeds?
 

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lmfao sure buddy just the fact that you think sasuke is faster makes you a joke.
Yes its a better form of transportation but you didn't say that. You said the hawk was faster than BM Naruto.
Anyways I'm not going to to take Sasuke wankers seriously so we're done here.
You're then one calling yourself "uzumaki naruto" :rage:
Yes please be gone.
 

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His reactions allowed him to keep up with Itachi.
Since when does reactions has nothing to do with striking speed & better taijutsu?

Look at how Penguin defined striking speed

No. Kisame was blitz'd with foot speed then hit, not fast striking speed. Striking speed is like Tobirama tagging Juubito five times. Very quick hits in a short amount of time. Gai and Neji have great striking speed. Not KCM Naruto, who stalemated with Itachi.
Don't u think Tobirama reacting to Obito and what Penguin defined as striking speed in this post are same?

But could you bring up feats of Itachi with fast striking speeds?
Itachi having good striking speed or fodder level striking speed has nothing to do with this argument.What is more important is whether Itachi's S.speed is superior to Base Naruto's S.speed or not.Itachi is clearly above Base Naruto unless u think otherwise the same Naruto managed to stalemate Itachi with his taijutsu which obviously means that his striking speed increased by KCM.
 
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Lol at this slimreaper kid who neg repped me for giving my opinion. Really small babies in their diapers should be restricted to log in here
 

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Lol at this slimreaper kid who neg repped me for giving my opinion. Really small babies in their diapers should be restricted to log in here
and yet you show, you're the one who is immature. I negged you because you compared killer bee to madara when it comes to countering amaterasu
 

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Since when does reactions has nothing to do with striking speed & better taijutsu?

Look at how Penguin defined striking speed



Don't u think Tobirama reacting to Obito and what Penguin defined as striking speed in this post are same?


Itachi having good striking speed or fodder level striking speed has nothing to do with this argument.What is more important is whether Itachi's S.speed is superior to Base Naruto's S.speed or not.Itachi is clearly above Base Naruto unless u think otherwise the same Naruto managed to stalemate Itachi with his taijutsu which obviously means that his striking speed increased by KCM.
Reactions play a role to striking speed. You need to react after every punch to punch again, and with faster reactions come faster attacks. KCM Naruto gained a boost in reactions but a greater boost in speed, so his striking speed was not off the charts impressive like his shunshin speed. Tobirama and Minato have good reactions and base speed, which means they are fast strikers.
 

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Reactions play a role to striking speed. You need to react after every punch to punch again, and with faster reactions come faster attacks. KCM Naruto gained a boost in reactions but a greater boost in speed, so his striking speed was not off the charts impressive like his shunshin speed. Tobirama and Minato have good reactions and base speed, which means they are fast strikers.
I don't remember saying that Naruto's striking speed growth is on par with his speed growth,Iam here to say that Kyuubi's chakra more or less increased Naruto's striking speed compared to Base Naruto.
 

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and yet you show, you're the one who is immature. I negged you because you compared killer bee to madara when it comes to countering amaterasu
I never compared Bee to Madara in terms of countering amaterasu. Dafuq are you talking about? So besides immaturity, reading comprehension is also terribly lacking it seems
 

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I never compared Bee to Madara in terms of countering amaterasu. Dafuq are you talking about? So besides immaturity, reading comprehension is also terribly lacking it seems
"Killer Bee fodderise him. Enton isn't doing shit to his V2 shroud when it couldn't even bypass Madara's hair with amaterasu."

you don't take into consideration that madara started absorbing it right away. if not it would have spread like it did on killer bee
 

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Since when does reactions has nothing to do with striking speed & better taijutsu?

Look at how Penguin defined striking speed



Don't u think Tobirama reacting to Obito and what Penguin defined as striking speed in this post are same?
Oh, I get you now. Naruto was just merely blocking against Itachi's punches. That's what I meant by his reactions allowing him to keep up with Itachi. Throwing a punch is different from keeping your guard up.
 

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"Killer Bee fodderise him. Enton isn't doing shit to his V2 shroud when it couldn't even bypass Madara's hair with amaterasu."

you don't take into consideration that madara started absorbing it right away. if not it would have spread like it did on killer bee
Then you(and Nagashi) clearly didn't read the manga correctly

I'll just requote my reply to the same bolded statement

Madara's hair falls behind his armor, so the first obstacle of Amaterasu in this case is the hair before the armor
Yet after absorption, we see it didn't harm his hair one bit:

Also why do you think the armor was damaged? It didn't seem damage to me, just like it also failed to damage the samurai's armor during the Kage summit

So Amaterasu's burning rate are piss poor. So what i means is a defense like the V2 shroud that can even tank Kusanagi(that can hurt diamond Enma) won't even be harm one bit by a technique that failed to burn hair. In V2, you can use chakra arms from any part of the body Getting rid of the flames in this case would be child's play
 

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Oh, I get you now. Naruto was just merely blocking against Itachi's punches. That's what I meant by his reactions allowing him to keep up with Itachi. Throwing a punch is different from keeping your guard up.
The very fact that he moved his hands fast enough to stop his movents proves that his striking speed increased.
 
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