Can BSM Naruto defeat Obito? (not jubito)

[VongolaX]

Its the other way actually, 1 vs 1 Obito doesn't stand a chance. Only way he stands a chance is if he has his lil edo army with him. Though Naruto can then call on shinobi from his side to help out. So Naruto in the end is superior.

Offense : Naruto > Obito

Defense: Naruot > Obito

Chakra : Naruto > Obito

pure brute power : Naruot > Obito

bigger arsenal : Naruto > Obito.

kind of superior in every single category.

Your a horrible liar

Offense Obito>>>Naruto (uchiha+senju)

Defense Obito>>>Naruto (intangible)

Chakra Obito>>>>naruto (had enough chakra to subdue nine tails, Gedo w/7breast), and juubi. Took naruto 500+ chapters for the kyuubi).

Brute power Naruto>>Obito (sagemode)

Arsenal Obito >>>>>Naruto (uchiha+senju=uchiha kinjustu, six path techniques, mokuton, and Yin yang techniques. Rasengan, shadow clones, and ttb isn't enough.)


One sided match for just MS Obito alone :|

 

[KCMNaruto]

Juubi Jin Obito > BSM Naruto > Rinnegan Obito > BM Naruto > MS Obito > KCM Naruto.

BSM Naruto > Any Obito form except Juubi Jinchurki

What Naruto need to deal with Kamui are: foot speed, reaction time(The most important), Sensing/tracking ability and also enough powerfull attack to harm him. Now let's see why BSM Naruto reach these requirements while BM and KCM fail to do that.

BSM Naruto vs any non Jinchurki form Obito:

Foot speed: BSM Naruto
Reaction time: BSM Naruto
Sensing ability: BSM Naruto
Offensive attack to land blow on Obito: Frog Katas/combined with Chakra arms... or TBB enhanced with nature energy if Obito was caught off-guard.

BM Naruto lacks: Offensive attack to land blow on Obito and Reaction time

KCM Naruto: Offensive attack to land blow on Obito and Reaction time

Summary: BSM Naruto wins

PS. only troll/Obito wanker/fanboy or Naruto hater will say otherwise.

Peace and one more case got resolved. You don't need to thank me

 

[Da Best Ever]

Yeah, it a makes a diffence. Learn to learn the manga. Or even read the scan I posted. The frog states that everything gets a major power up.
In SM, he was much faster than in his base form, and much more stronger. Learn to read the manga, kid.

lol learn to read the manga...and im probably older than u but if your older than me that would be a little creepy and it would be weird for u to been on a website talking to people who u think are kids...hmmm

and i been typing manga facts this whole time i already told u im not arguing anything that sm does but sm is not s/t and s/t is what hit obito not sm...what u think is an opinion not a fact but u act like it is a fact but until sm becomes or equals to s/t u lose...u havent said anything but sm that is your only manga fact...and when i was saying manga facts u said try using manga logic but now u are using manga fact all of a sudden and im not llab at u...#Contradiction

 

[Da Best Ever]

Yeah, I gave evidence, you idiot. Learn to read my posts. I explained, more than once, more than twice, how the SM mechanism can help naruto winning the battle.
I explained perfectly how naruto would use the speed, the reflex, the sensor skills,a nd the clones to win the battle.

I explained it, I gathered evidence for it, I used logic.

And what did you do? All you said is "ah, kamui is s/t, obito can be beat by only another s/t, mabga fact, ahhh, so retarted, manga fact". You're the one using your opinion as fact, or better yet, as a "manga fact, duhhhhh, so retarted".
You didn't even counter my explanation, which I'm not posting again.

so has obito been hit by a sm user unaided??? no or has obito been hit by a s/t user unaided???yes so how is that not a manga fact??? it did happen in the manga...obito never was hit by a sm user unaided in the manga but was hit by an s/t user in the manga unaided

u must not knw the meaning of the word fact since u just posted this bs

 

[Wolfus]

lol learn to read the manga...and im probably older than u but if your older than me that would be a little creepy and it would be weird for u to been on a website talking to people who u think are kids...hmmm

and i been typing manga facts this whole time i already told u im not arguing anything that sm does but sm is not s/t and s/t is what hit obito not sm...what u think is an opinion not a fact but u act like it is a fact but until sm becomes or equals to s/t u lose...u havent said anything but sm that is your only manga fact...and when i was saying manga facts u said try using manga logic but now u are using manga fact all of a sudden and im not llab at u...#Contradiction

No, you were just saying that something you think is manga fact.
I explained, more than once, more than twice, how the SM mechanism can help naruto winning the battle.
I explained perfectly how naruto would use the speed, the reflex, the sensor skills,a nd the clones to win the battle.

I explained it, I gathered evidence for it, I used logic.

And what did you do? All you said is "ah, kamui is s/t, obito can be beat by only another s/t, mabga fact, ahhh, so retarted, manga fact". You're the one using your opinion as fact, or better yet, as a "manga fact, duhhhhh, so retarted".
You didn't even counter my explanation, which I'm not posting again.

 

[Da Best Ever]

wolfus where are i need somebody to contradict their self again....

 

[Da Best Ever]

quickly everyone, has obito been hit by an sm user unaided in the manga or has he been hit by a s/t unaided in the manga???

its obviously the latter of the two

 

[Wolfus]

so has obito been hit by a sm user unaided??? no or has obito been hit by a s/t user unaided???yes so how is that not a manga fact??? it did happen in the manga...obito never was hit by a sm user unaided in the manga but was hit by an s/t user in the manga unaided

u must not knw the meaning of the word fact since u just posted this bs

It's called using logic, you dumbass. Obito was never hit doesn't equal obito can't be hit. Basic difference.
Why don't you just disprove my explanation then? Back there, in the first and second page? Why don't you disprove it if it's all BS?
Because you can't. Because without a single evidence, you're saying "obito just can be hit with other s/t, lol, manag fact, manga fact, so retarted". The fact that he was never hit ddoesn't mean he can't be hit. He just didn't fight anybody with speed and sensor skills enough to do that. But BSM Naruto has it.
And you're going to repeat the same sh*t you've been doing, then don't reply.

wolfus where are i need somebody to contradict their self again....

Who did you contradict? Not me for sure. You need to learn how to type, first.

 

[Da Best Ever]

It's called using logic, you dumbass. Obito was never hit doesn't equal obito can't be hit. Basic difference.
Why don't you just disprove my explanation then? Back there, in the first and second page? Why don't you disprove it if it's all BS?
Because you can't. Because without a single evidence, you're saying "obito just can be hit with other s/t, lol, manag fact, manga fact, so retarted". The fact that he was never hit ddoesn't mean he can't be hit. He just didn't fight anybody with speed and sensor skills enough to do that. But BSM Naruto has it.
And you're going to repeat the same sh*t you've been doing, then don't reply.



Who did you contradict? Not me for sure. You need to learn how to type, first.

lol im not even going to reply to the other stuff i just want to point out something to everyone

u just posted who did u contradict...llab at u

a contradiction is made by ones self

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

How is this even an argument. Obito solos.

 

[Wolfus]

lol im not even going to reply to the other stuff i just want to point out something to everyone

u just posted who did u contradict...llab at u

a contradiction is made by ones self

Prove it, dumbass. Prove that I contradicted myself. You can't? Oh wait, because it's just your opinion, and you stated it like a fact? Who is contradicting himself now, kid?
You won't reply because you can't disprove my explanation, so you resort to your "manga assumptions" tthat you call manga facts like a retard.

 

[KCMNaruto]

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^^ Supperior foot speed

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^^ Supperior sensing ability

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^^ Supperior reaction time(notice how Minato is shocked while Naruto is not... but try to resist and fight back)

Again Naruto still resist while Minato was forced to use FTG to escape.

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^^ Frog Katas combined with chakra arms-> gg Obito

Conclusion: BSM Naruto wins... keep in mind that Naruto is still new to BSM .... along with flow of time he will get better and better until he master it... and then only Juubi Jin Obito ,SM Hashirama and Current Madara will be challenge for him.

Also Full Bijuu mode and Full Bijuu Sage mode are power ups which await for him...

He will be in top 3 of the strongest character of all times... or maybe even higher.

 

[Da Best Ever]

Prove it, dumbass. Prove that I contradicted myself. You can't? Oh wait, because it's just your opinion, and you stated it like a fact? Who is contradicting himself now, kid?
You won't reply because you can't disprove my explanation, so you resort to your "manga assumptions" tthat you call manga facts like a retard.

no im not replying to that because its an opinion not a fact if something happened in the manga it is a fact what your saying never happened since they never fought in the context we are debating therefor what your saying is an opinion but u believe it to have been true an real the only thing u have said that is true is what sm does and i have said that in a least 3 post that im not arguing that...

and how is saying only s/t users have hit obito unaided an opinion??? lol , it happened in the manga, if it happened in the manga it is not an opinion it is a manga fact...

oh their is 2 ways u contradicted yourself first one is u said to me dnt try using manga logic instead of manga fact but u in return in a later post said i wasnt using manag fact and u were... and the second contradiction u made is that u posted u werent going to reply anymore yet here u are....hmmm

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

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^^ Supperior sensing ability

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^^ Supperior reaction time(notice how Minato is shocked while Naruto is not... but try to resist and fight back)

Again Naruto still resist while Minato was forced to use FTG to escape.

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^^ Frog Katas combined with chakra arms-> gg Obito

Conclusion: BSM Naruto wins... keep in mind that Naruto is still new to BSM .... along with flow of time he will get better and better until he master it... and then only Juubi Jin Obito ,SM Hashirama and Current Madara will be challenge for him.

Also Full Bijuu mode and Full Bijuu Sage mode are power ups which await for him...

He will be in top 3 of the strongest character of all times... or maybe even higher.

Everything else was irrelvevant till you mentioned frog kata. Most likely Obito knows about that vis Zetsu. Seems like the only thing he didnt know is Edo tensei,
If Obito uses Kamui, frog kata will have no effect. Since frog kata cant go into the other demension.

 

[Da Best Ever]

still no reply...if u reply u will further contradict yourself

 

[Wolfus]

no im not replying to that because its an opinion not a fact if something happened in the manga it is a fact what your saying never happened since they never fought in the context we are debating therefor what your saying is an opinion but u believe it to have been true an real the only thing u have said that is true is what sm does and i have said that in a least 3 post that im not arguing that...

and how is saying only s/t users have hit obito unaided an opinion??? lol , it happened in the manga, if it happened in the manga it is not an opinion it is a manga fact...

oh their is 2 ways u contradicted yourself first one is u said to me dnt try using manga logic instead of manga fact but u in return in a later post said i wasnt using manag fact and u were... and the second contradiction u made is that u posted u werent going to reply anymore yet here u are....hmmm

I never said I was using "manga fact".
You're not replying, because you can't. You say you can, but where's what I requested? You still didn't disprove my explanation. .

You're taking yourt opinion as fact, and you know why? Let me explain word by word to you, as your reading skills are just as good as you'r writting.
You're saying "nobody without s/t ever hit obito". That is kind of true. Kind of, because naruto in BM hit him. He had the help of kakashi, who had s/t, though. However, naruto did knock his head on his, when his BM clone was fighting obito with kakashi.
And konan was able to injure obito without s/t. So not completly true, as you said.

Now, one thing is "obito was never hit without s/t before". This, I kind of agree(disconsidering konan).

However, you're saying that "obito can't be hit without s/t". That is false, not only becauseit happened before, but even if it didn't, this was never stated. Obito just had never faced an oponent with enough speed and sensor skills to do it without s/t.

So what you're saying is a force interpretation of the manga, and not a fact.

Everything else was irrelvevant till you mentioned frog kata. Most likely Obito knows about that vis Zetsu. Seems like the only thing he didnt know is Edo tensei,
If Obito uses Kamui, frog kata will have no effect. Since frog kata cant go into the other demension.

Wrong. Sensory skills make a great difference. That's because with sensory skills, reflex, and speed, naruto could sense the momment obito was about to touch him, dodge, and counter it in the right time, being able to hit him. Thogu I explained it better back then.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Everything else was irrelvevant till you mentioned frog kata. Most likely Obito knows about that vis Zetsu. Seems like the only thing he didnt know is Edo tensei,
If Obito uses Kamui, frog kata will have no effect. Since frog kata cant go into the other demension.

Sorry but you don't get my point... or you are ingnorant one.

To counter Kamui you need: Supperior foot speed + Supperior reaction time + Supperior sensing abiltiy + ability to land blow on Obito and enough powerfull to damage him.

BSM Naruto has all of them.

Now explain me... How Obito wins... I am really curious:

1) If Obito try to warp Naruto: Naruto senses Obito-> Obito appear-> Naruto reacts-> Obito acitves Kamui -> Naruto move away with great speed

2) If Obito try to become intangible: Naruto move at flash speed towards Obito -> uses Frog Katas around chakra arms-> Obito wait until Chakra arms will be close(forgetting about nature energy enhancing range of chakra arms)-> Try to activate Kamui while getting hit by invinsible nature energy and sent flying.

or Naruto will use TBB enhanced with nature energy... so Obito will slowly phases through it... but before he will finish he will get hit by invinsible nature energy around TBB... however Obito didn't see it so won't bother with reacting to it.

3) Wood release -> Naruto break through it or escape it with great speed or broke it with wind release chakra.

4) Fire release -> Naruto can tank any Obito's attack in BM, let's alone BSM.

5) Gedo mazou -> Naruto can use TBB to destroy it

6) Edo Jinchurki(Should not be included, but even if)-> Naruto can finish them all before they will understand their position and react.

Result: BSM Naruto wins...

Supperior reaction time was all BM naruto needed to win draw against Obito... adding method to land blow on Obito... Frog Katas makes him supperior.

BSM Naruto is winner

Supperior reaction time+ Supperior foot speed = Space time Ninjtusu..., or close to it so it will work.

all you need to win against Obito:

- Your reaction time > Obito's reaction time + Kamui activation
- Your foot speed > Obito's foot speed, so he won't outrun you
- Sensing ability, you can anticipate him, then reacts and moves before he will get you
- ability to land blow and damage him, Frog Katas+ anything -> gg Obito.

gg Obito non Jinchurki form

 

[Lazerus Eks]

Obito after the rock smashed him would destroy Naruto LOL
jkin, it be a really close fight in my opinion

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Sorry but I don't get my point... or you are ingnorant one.

To counter Kamui you need: Supperior foot speed + Supperior reaction time + Supperior sensing abiltiy + ability to land blow on Obito and enough powerfull to damage him.

BSM Naruto has all of them.

Now explain me... How Obito wins... I am really curious:

1) If Obito try to warp Naruto: Naruto senses Obito-> Obito appear-> Naruto reacts-> Obito acitves Kamui -> Naruto move away with great speed

2) If Obito try to become intangible: Naruto move at flash speed towards Obito -> uses Frog Katas around chakra arms-> Obito wait until Chakra arms will be close(forgetting about nature energy enhancing range of chakra arms)-> Try to activate Kamui while getting hit by invinsible nature energy and sent flying.

or Naruto will use TBB enhanced with nature energy... so Obito will slowly phases through it... but before he will finish he will get hit by invinsible nature energy around TBB... however Obito didn't see it so won't bother with reacting to it.

3) Wood release -> Naruto break through it or escape it with great speed or broke it with wind release chakra.

4) Fire release -> Naruto can tank any Obito's attack in BM, let's alone BSM.

5) Gedo mazou -> Naruto can use TBB to destroy it

6) Edo Jinchurki(Should not be included, but even if)-> Naruto can finish them all before they will understand their position and react.

Result: BSM Naruto wins...

Supperior reaction time was all BM naruto needed to win draw against Obito... adding method to land blow on Obito... Frog Katas makes him supperior.

BSM Naruto is winner

Stopped reading at that.
You are done/
Sleep.

 

[Wolfus]

Stopped reading at that.
You are done/
Sleep.

Disprove him before saying that, as you clearly didn't. It's easy to say "lol, you're wrong". But explain it. Ohterwise, you're making a joke of yourself.

So, dabestever, not gonna reply? "LOL, I'm da best, no replying, contradicted, lo, mannga fact, lehs, your conntrdaditicewd, ahhhhhm, i nor riwriti".
That's how people see you.