Can BSM Naruto defeat Obito? (not jubito)

[Shura]

Obito wins this.​

 

[KCMNaruto]

Stopped reading at that.
You are done/
Sleep.

Everything else was irrelvevant till you mentioned frog kata. Most likely Obito knows about that vis Zetsu. Seems like the only thing he didnt know is Edo tensei,
If Obito uses Kamui, frog kata will have no effect. Since frog kata cant go into the other demension.

Sorry but you don't get my point... or you are ingnorant one.

To counter Kamui you need: Supperior foot speed + Supperior reaction time + Supperior sensing abiltiy + ability to land blow on Obito and enough powerfull to damage him.

BSM Naruto has all of them.

Now explain me... How Obito wins... I am really curious:

1) If Obito try to warp Naruto: Naruto senses Obito-> Obito appear-> Naruto reacts-> Obito acitves Kamui -> Naruto move away with great speed

2) If Obito try to become intangible: Naruto move at flash speed towards Obito -> uses Frog Katas around chakra arms-> Obito wait until Chakra arms will be close(forgetting about nature energy enhancing range of chakra arms)-> Try to activate Kamui while getting hit by invinsible nature energy and sent flying.

or Naruto will use TBB enhanced with nature energy... so Obito will slowly phases through it... but before he will finish he will get hit by invinsible nature energy around TBB... however Obito didn't see it so won't bother with reacting to it.

3) Wood release -> Naruto break through it or escape it with great speed or broke it with wind release chakra.

4) Fire release -> Naruto can tank any Obito's attack in BM, let's alone BSM.

5) Gedo mazou -> Naruto can use TBB to destroy it

6) Edo Jinchurki(Should not be included, but even if)-> Naruto can finish them all before they will understand their position and react.

Result: BSM Naruto wins...

Supperior reaction time was all BM naruto needed to win draw against Obito... adding method to land blow on Obito... Frog Katas makes him supperior.

BSM Naruto is winner

Supperior reaction time+ Supperior foot speed = Space time Ninjtusu..., or close to it so it will work.

all you need to win against Obito:

- Your reaction time > Obito's reaction time + Kamui activation
- Your foot speed > Obito's foot speed, so he won't outrun you
- Sensing ability, you can anticipate him, then reacts and moves before he will get you
- ability to land blow and damage him, Frog Katas+ anything -> gg Obito.

gg Obito non Jinchurki form

Fixed it now, try again smartass

Disprove him before saying that, as you clearly didn't. It's easy to say "lol, you're wrong". But explain it. Ohterwise, you're making a joke of yourself.

So, dabestever, not gonna reply? "LOL, I'm da best, no replying, contradicted, lo, mannga fact, lehs, your conntrdaditicewd, ahhhhhm, i nor riwriti".
That's how people see you.

^^ exactly if you can counter then the best you can do is avoid discussion by finding something to turn everyone attention away from this topic,

Smart looser is smart. + rep for you my friend

Obito wins this.​

Explain how ?

Unless I can say same: BSM Naruto wins this.

Difference: I have manga on my side and backed up my thoughts/statement while you simply stated your opinion with nothing to back it up.

Also not BM=KCM=BSM logic work/applies here... so try harder.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Outer path says hi, kamui hi. Mokuton Hi. Rinnegan hi, genjutsu hi, Black rods hi.

 

[Da Best Ever]

until obito is hit by someone other than a s/t user then I will agree with u but until then he can only be hit by a s/t user if it happened in the manga then it is a manga fact, if something has not occurred then it is not a fact what dnt u get about that??? sm users have never hit obito unaided that is a fact bsm naruto qualifies as sm user so this applies to him...and how can something be kind of true???either is true or not, u said I was kind of right and then said bm naruto busted up obito;s mask while obito was fighting kakashi...key word kakashi(it isn't a word but in this case its being ued in the same context) and if im not mistaken this was a 1 v 1 thread so dnt mention any other thing about naruto hitting obito while obito is engaged in combat with someone else that doesn't qualify as 1 v 1...

what your saying is naruto can beat obito because of sm...that's an opinion boy...damn u dnt understand

 

[Wolfus]

until obito is hit by someone other than a s/t user then I will agree with u but until then he can only be hit by a s/t user if it happened in the manga then it is a manga fact, if something has not occurred then it is not a fact what dnt u get about that??? sm users have never hit obito unaided that is a fact bsm naruto qualifies as sm user so this applies to him...and how can something be kind of true???either is true or not, u said I was kind of right and then said bm naruto busted up obito;s mask while obito was fighting kakashi...key word kakashi(it isn't a word but in this case its being ued in the same context) and if im not mistaken this was a 1 v 1 thread so dnt mention any other thing about naruto hitting obito while obito is engaged in combat with someone else that doesn't qualify as 1 v 1...

what your saying is naruto can beat obito because of sm...that's an opinion boy...damn u dnt understand

1st- Konan did it.
Second- You're taking yourt opinion as fact, and you know why? Let me explain word by word to you, as your reading skills are just as good as you'r writting.
You're saying "nobody without s/t ever hit obito". That is kind of true. Kind of, because naruto in BM hit him. He had the help of kakashi, who had s/t, though. However, naruto did knock his head on his, when his BM clone was fighting obito with kakashi.
And konan was able to injure obito without s/t. So not completly true, as you said.

Now, one thing is "obito was never hit without s/t before". This, I kind of agree(disconsidering konan).

However, you're saying that "obito can't be hit without s/t". That is false, not only becauseit happened before, but even if it didn't, this was never stated. Obito just had never faced an oponent with enough speed and sensor skills to do it without s/t.

And bold- I never said that. I said that the SM increaser plus all the other factors I mentioned is what mkes possible for narutoto win. Learn to read.

You're saying "Obito can't be hit without s/t". That's an opinion. Just because he wasnt hit in the past, doesn't mean he can't be hit in the future.
And still, konan did it.

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Sorry but you don't get my point... or you are ingnorant one.

To counter Kamui you need: Supperior foot speed + Supperior reaction time + Supperior sensing abiltiy + ability to land blow on Obito and enough powerfull to damage him.

BSM Naruto has all of them.

Now explain me... How Obito wins... I am really curious:

1) If Obito try to warp Naruto: Naruto senses Obito-> Obito appear-> Naruto reacts-> Obito acitves Kamui -> Naruto move away with great speed

2) If Obito try to become intangible: Naruto move at flash speed towards Obito -> uses Frog Katas around chakra arms-> Obito wait until Chakra arms will be close(forgetting about nature energy enhancing range of chakra arms)-> Try to activate Kamui while getting hit by invinsible nature energy and sent flying.

or Naruto will use TBB enhanced with nature energy... so Obito will slowly phases through it... but before he will finish he will get hit by invinsible nature energy around TBB... however Obito didn't see it so won't bother with reacting to it.

3) Wood release -> Naruto break through it or escape it with great speed or broke it with wind release chakra.

4) Fire release -> Naruto can tank any Obito's attack in BM, let's alone BSM.

5) Gedo mazou -> Naruto can use TBB to destroy it

6) Edo Jinchurki(Should not be included, but even if)-> Naruto can finish them all before they will understand their position and react.

Result: BSM Naruto wins...

Supperior reaction time was all BM naruto needed to win draw against Obito... adding method to land blow on Obito... Frog Katas makes him supperior.

BSM Naruto is winner

Supperior reaction time+ Supperior foot speed = Space time Ninjtusu..., or close to it so it will work.

all you need to win against Obito:

- Your reaction time > Obito's reaction time + Kamui activation
- Your foot speed > Obito's foot speed, so he won't outrun you
- Sensing ability, you can anticipate him, then reacts and moves before he will get you
- ability to land blow and damage him, Frog Katas+ anything -> gg Obito.

gg Obito non Jinchurki form

Fixed it now, try again smartass



^^ exactly if you can counter then the best you can do is avoid discussion by finding something to turn everyone attention away from this topic,

Smart loser is smart. + rep for you my friend



Explain how ?

Unless I can say same: BSM Naruto wins this.

Difference: I have manga on my side and backed up my thoughts/statement while you simply stated your opinion with nothing to back it up.

Also not BM=KCM=BSM logic work/applies here... so try harder.

Fixed.
Also, no matter what I say you are going to think otherwise, so as I said before, this is a dumb argument. Everything is specualtion, just because you THINK you have facts to back up ur opinion, thats all it is, an OPINION. example Da Best Ever and Wolfus..they are the only ones in here taking this argument seriously..smh. Neither is gonna agree so its pointless.
Pointless threads...

 

[KCMNaruto]

Outer path says hi, kamui hi. Mokuton Hi. Rinnegan hi, genjutsu hi, Black rods hi.

Chakra arms + Frog Katas + blitz foot speed + supperior reaction time + great physical strength + all boosted stats of body and nin, tai and gen + Uzumaki life force and Kurama's cloak says hi

try harder

Fixed.
Also, no matter what I say you are going to think otherwise, so as I said before, this is a dumb argument. Everything is specualtion, just because you THINK you have facts to back up ur opinion, thats all it is, an OPINION. example Da Best Ever and Wolfus..they are the only ones in here taking this argument seriously..smh. Neither is gonna agree so its pointless.
Pointless threads...

Think what you want

But if you can NOT counter me.. then I won this debate.

BSM Naruto > non jinchurki form Obito for now... until someone can prove me wrong.

Thanks for nice debate... it was great enjoyment for me, see ya next time

 

[Da Best Ever]

1st- Konan did it.
Second- You're taking yourt opinion as fact, and you know why? Let me explain word by word to you, as your reading skills are just as good as you'r writting.
You're saying "nobody without s/t ever hit obito". That is kind of true. Kind of, because naruto in BM hit him. He had the help of kakashi, who had s/t, though. However, naruto did knock his head on his, when his BM clone was fighting obito with kakashi.
And konan was able to injure obito without s/t. So not completly true, as you said.

Now, one thing is "obito was never hit without s/t before". This, I kind of agree(disconsidering konan).

However, you're saying that "obito can't be hit without s/t". That is false, not only becauseit happened before, but even if it didn't, this was never stated. Obito just had never faced an oponent with enough speed and sensor skills to do it without s/t.

first off relfexes not speed is what u need to avoid kamui...kcm naruto was considered the fastest shinobi in history along with minato as stated by A since naruto dodged his attack, bm is much faster than kcm but still couldnt hit obito by himself, secondly the abilty to sense evil started with kcm naruto not sm naruto ,kcm naruto first did this when he when he sensed kisame in the samehada blade so my point is naruto has been able to sense shit prior to bsm and it hasnt helped him at all against any form of obito in this war

and i have not went anywhere im on 2 different laptops on 2 different threads...#Multitasking

and i have already said that what we are saying is a opinion long ago in one of my first post on this thread it was when i attempted to get u to understand an agreee that this all is an opinion whatever that never happened in the manga but u kept on so...and its going to take more than 2 of, u gone need a bus load of mfers to **** wit me...

yall dnt understand we are put in brackets, #Levels

 

[Wolfus]

Fixed.
Also, no matter what I say you are going to think otherwise, so as I said before, this is a dumb argument. Everything is specualtion, just because you THINK you have facts to back up ur opinion, thats all it is, an OPINION. example Da Best Ever and Wolfus..they are the only ones in here taking this argument seriously..smh. Neither is gonna agree so its pointless.
Pointless threads...

It's funny. You know nothing about discussion at all. Bold is sooooo wrong. A discussion starts with an idea. That's the opinion, To get closer to the truth, or better yet, to prove your idea, you'll develop arguments. These arguments will have evidences anf proofs, they will have logical explanations that will back up your idea, or disprove another.
That's how things works.
If you run out of arguments, and can't disprove someone, you're most likely wrong.

And in this case, you didn't disprove anything KCMNaruto said.

 

[Da Best Ever]

and to the guy who said he was the best ever...u couldnt be the best ever if your Daddy was named that...u wouldnt be no Jr...llab

 

[Wolfus]

first off relfexes not speed is what u need to avoid kamui...kcm naruto was considered the fastest shinobi in history along with minato as stated by A since naruto dodged his attack, bm is much faster than kcm but still couldnt hit obito by himself, secondly the abilty to sense evil started with kcm naruto not sm naruto ,kcm naruto first did this when he when he sensed kisame in the samehada blade so my point is naruto has been able to sense shit prior to bsm and it hasnt helped him at all against any form of obito in this war

and i have not went anywhere im on 2 different laptops on 2 different threads...#Multitasking

and i have already said that what we are saying is a opinion long ago in one of my first post on this thread it was when i attempted to get u to understand an agreee that this all is an opinion whatever that never happened in the manga but u kept on so...and its going to take more than 2 of, u gone need a bus load of mfers to **** wit me...

yall dnt understand we are put in brackets, #Levels

You're so dumb.
1- Naruto has both. BSM is fastet than BM, as I proved, and has more reflexes than BM as well, also proved. You didn't counter that.
Obito never fought BSM(unless, of course, juubito, but that's not the case)
SM can sense danger. Learn to read, he sensed danger in the raikage fight.

2- What happened to your manga fact now. huh? Now that I reminded you of konan, now that I showed that you were mistaken? And you still say I am the one stating opinions? Grow up, kid.

You dont even now how to write, let alone debate.

 

[Da Best Ever]

It's funny. You know nothing about discussion at all. Bold is sooooo wrong. A discussion starts with an idea. That's the opinion, To get closer to the truth, or better yet, to prove your idea, you'll develop arguments. These arguments will have evidences anf proofs, they will have logical explanations that will back up your idea, or disprove another.
That's how things works.
If you run out of arguments, and can't disprove someone, you're most likely wrong.

And in this case, you didn't disprove anything KCMNaruto said.

i agree, except that discussions start with a topic, the idea is what we are debating in the case of nb the op comes up with the idea and we debate the topic, the op idea is what im refuting or not, in other words the idea is the op information for creating the thread...like whoever thought of a way naruto could beat obito(idea) and came up with the topic( which is whatever the title of this thread is) and the discussion is what we post about the topic...and in a debate facts are all the matter just like in court or actual debating events

 

[Da Best Ever]

You're so dumb.
1- Naruto has both. BSM is fastet than BM, as I proved, and has more reflexes than BM as well, also proved. You didn't counter that.
Obito never fought BSM(unless, of course, juubito, but that's not the case)
SM can sense danger. Learn to read, he sensed danger in the raikage fight.

2- What happened to your manga fact now. huh? Now that I reminded you of konan, now that I showed that you were mistaken? And you still say I am the one stating opinions? Grow up, kid.

You dont even now how to write, let alone debate.

boy how many times do i have to say it im not arguing what sm does...i didnt say anything about konan because u said u basically u werent counting konan but if i must say something about it then oh well...

all i have to say is prep time and the counter for that was #izanagi...naruto doesnt have prep time nor has any knowledge of izanagi but like i said that konan shit was irrelevant for reasons stated above

 

[Da Best Ever]

i can be dumb but your incapable of learning #Ignorant

 

[AlphaScythian]

Chakra arms + Frog Katas + blitz foot speed + supperior reaction time + great physical strength + all boosted stats of body and nin, tai and gen + Uzumaki life force and Kurama's cloak says hi
try harder

Chakra arms, never did anything to obito. Frog katas? Please He wont be doing that in BSM, its like sasuke puling chidori nagashi out of PS, dont get carried away with your fanfic. Superior reaction time? Obito was never caught off guard even from 4 kages level if not for kamui kakashi had. Obito too has hashi cells that contribute for sensing and vitality, who wants uzumaki lmao. Outher path binds biju power, it will leave naruto with mere SM, mokuton absorbs chakra GG. Uchiha barrier GG. Black rods can be used either to control or use rinnegan tech at distance. Huge katon. Never did naruto blitz obito! Obito wasnt even seen out off chakra once, how long is that BSM limit? 5 bijus, gedo mazo. Sorry man. Fan harder.

 

[Da Best Ever]

oh, u keep calling me kid...im probably older than u but if your older it would be creepy for u to be on a website talking to kids

 

[Flawž]

naruto would need to work extra hard avoiding getting one paneled.

Naruto can't touch obito, And if he lowers his guard, he gets warped.

Ms obito is debatable with BSm naruto.

Rinnegan obito >>>>BSM naruto

Juubito's fart > naruto

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[Da Best Ever]

Chakra arms, never did anything to obito. Frog katas? Please He wont be doing that in BSM, its like sasuke puling chidori nagashi out of PS, dont get carried away with your fanfic. Superior reaction time? Obito was never caught off guard even from 4 kages level if not for kamui kakashi had. Obito too has hashi cells that contribute for sensing and vitality, who wants uzumaki lmao. Outher path binds biju power, it will leave naruto with mere SM, mokuton absorbs chakra GG. Uchiha barrier GG. Black rods can be used either to control or use rinnegan tech at distance. Huge katon. Never did naruto blitz obito! Obito wasnt even seen out off chakra once, how long is that BSM limit? 5 bijus, gedo mazo. Sorry man. Fan harder.

lol your kind of right but u made it too easy, these boys wont agree with that but im with ya

 

[Wolfus]

boy how many times do i have to say it im not arguing what sm does...i didnt say anything about konan because u said u basically u werent counting konan but if i must say something about it then oh well...

all i have to say is prep time and the counter for that was #izanagi...naruto doesnt have prep time nor has any knowledge of izanagi but like i said that konan shit was irrelevant for reasons stated above

Am I saying anything about SM? You still did not debunk my explanation. That's all. You got nothing.

 

[Da Best Ever]

do u like Rune Thor??? he gets shitted on by all abstract entities and some others in marvel's upper patheon