[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 657 Discussion and 658 Predictions

[bam06005]

This is becoming interesting. Kabuto gets a call, and he was the partner of one of Madara's actual 'men' (Kabuto and Orochimaru working with him).

If that is the case, then there are some things we can potentially glean from this if I'm not mistaken.

1.) Orochimaru may be currently working for Madara, seeing as earlier on, Kabuto wasn't 'sure that Tobi/Obito would act as planned'.
2.) It seems that the Eye of the Moon was a way to rope Obito into the plan as opposed to the end goal- why would Orochimaru agree to it otherwise?
3.) Is it possible that Hashirama was resurrected in this way to give Madara his power?
4.) Though if Obito was always intended for resurrecting Madara (Black Zetsu controlling him) then why was Nagato needed? (NVM, Obito needed to manipulate and pull the strings in preparation for Madara's return- something he didn't do- and he was a bit surprised when Kabuto pulled him out of nowhere. This constituted a setback for sure, but it all fell apart, I would guess).


Just some thoughts.

I wouldn't think too much on the word "partner" ... could simply be lost in translation. But some interesting thoughts nonetheless.

 

[FaHaD 5212]

Great Chapter 5/5

 

[bibspark]

Yo guys...

When Madara said there was a partner of one of his men was who had the same ideas as him when Hashi said he schemed a lot after leaving the village, do you guys think he was referring to Danzo or Oro or who do you think he was referring to???

 

[BazzBee]

This is becoming interesting. Kabuto gets a call, and he was the partner of one of Madara's actual 'men' (Kabuto and Orochimaru working with him).

If that is the case, then there are some things we can potentially glean from this if I'm not mistaken.

1.) Orochimaru may be currently working for Madara, seeing as earlier on, Kabuto wasn't 'sure that Tobi/Obito would act as planned'.
2.) It seems that the Eye of the Moon was a way to rope Obito into the plan as opposed to the end goal- why would Orochimaru agree to it otherwise?
3.) Is it possible that Hashirama was resurrected in this way to give Madara his power?
4.) Though if Obito was always intended for resurrecting Madara (Black Zetsu controlling him) then why was Nagato needed? (NVM, Obito needed to manipulate and pull the strings in preparation for Madara's return- something he didn't do- and he was a bit surprised when Kabuto pulled him out of nowhere. This constituted a setback for sure, but it all fell apart, I would guess).


Just some thoughts.

Gave me an idea, a men of my partner...

partner = Oru
Men = kabuto

So oru knew Obito was tobi ? >.> interesting plot.

 

[sistyN]

Nice chapter , Madara Rocks . but how did he survive from amaterasu ???

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[SixPathsOfTobi]

This is becoming interesting. Kabuto gets a call, and he was the partner of one of Madara's actual 'men' (Kabuto and Orochimaru working with him).

If that is the case, then there are some things we can potentially glean from this if I'm not mistaken.

1.) Orochimaru may be currently working for Madara, seeing as earlier on, Kabuto wasn't 'sure that Tobi/Obito would act as planned'.
2.) It seems that the Eye of the Moon was a way to rope Obito into the plan as opposed to the end goal- why would Orochimaru agree to it otherwise?
3.) Is it possible that Hashirama was resurrected in this way to give Madara his power?
4.) Though if Obito was always intended for resurrecting Madara (Black Zetsu controlling him) then why was Nagato needed? (NVM, Obito needed to manipulate and pull the strings in preparation for Madara's return- something he didn't do- and he was a bit surprised when Kabuto pulled him out of nowhere. This constituted a setback for sure, but it all fell apart, I would guess).


Just some thoughts.

might also explain how oro obtained madara's dna.

 

[Darkboy85]

Now that is what a chapter should be like

Realy digged that one and I hope these powers and words aren't just for show.

Also, I hope he won't get TNJ'd, that would realy suck.

5/5 (Heck, even 10/5) for me. Dat last panel looked so bad ass BTW !!!

Can't wait for next week.

 

[The Sach]

Yea chapter was good. But I still cannot get over the Madara's stupid interpretation. Itachi seems to be the sanest of all of them or at least the least crazy one.

About Black jetsu, he came out too suddenly from the ground right at Obito and can easily becomes part of Obito. Half his strength rest on that skill. Minato and kakashi fast as they maybe , have to see him first and have to guess what he is about to do. I don't think there was that much time gap.

Talking about Madara's interpretation, my mind always relates it with Yin-Yang philosophy i.e. one thing can't become complete without another. Itachi was a unique character as compared to Madara because he had that will of fire within him.
Black zetsu thing probably surprised Minato and Kakashi, that is the best explanation I can come up with, because I was at least expecting Minato to show some expressions or at least call medical shinobi, try to heal him. Obito is his student after all, but neither he nor Kakashi tried to react on the situation.

This is becoming interesting. Kabuto gets a call, and he was the partner of one of Madara's actual 'men' (Kabuto and Orochimaru working with him).

If that is the case, then there are some things we can potentially glean from this if I'm not mistaken.

1.) Orochimaru may be currently working for Madara, seeing as earlier on, Kabuto wasn't 'sure that Tobi/Obito would act as planned'.
2.) It seems that the Eye of the Moon was a way to rope Obito into the plan as opposed to the end goal- why would Orochimaru agree to it otherwise?
3.) Is it possible that Hashirama was resurrected in this way to give Madara his power?
4.) Though if Obito was always intended for resurrecting Madara (Black Zetsu controlling him) then why was Nagato needed? (NVM, Obito needed to manipulate and pull the strings in preparation for Madara's return- something he didn't do- and he was a bit surprised when Kabuto pulled him out of nowhere. This constituted a setback for sure, but it all fell apart, I would guess).


Just some thoughts.

Actually I was thinking in the same direction when I came up with theory which is there in my sig. What if Oro is working for Madara, but few thing go against it.
1)Nagato point that you explained there.
2)How Oro came across alive Madara? We know that Konoha always thought Madara died in Hashirama battle. When Oro joined Akatsuki tobi was Madara, and real Madara was dead.
And before that I doubt if Oro ever came across that underground place of Madara.
3)Talking about Madara's body I think Oro soon came across the fact that Obito isn't Madara after joining akatsuki and he soon got access to Madara's body.
4)If resurrecting Hashirama was part of Madara's plan why Oro resurrected remaining hokages??
He could have just resurrected Hashirama. It is easier to control one hokage rather than four hokages.
But still that is some different thought.

 

[mabanae]

Bad news guys , madara is absorbing kyubi clock of the ninjas, check it on last page at *********** .

 

[BlueStarSaber]

Well finally Madara and Sasuke had a talk, I hope every Uchiha fan is now happy. Man I loving Black Zetsu.

 

[hermic4lyfe]

awesome chapter ..nt much to say just that am giving it 5/5 cos it got me good.....also love the fact that we get to see more of black zetsu...... cant wait for next week....pls kishi kip our andrenaline high......

 

[LitzSabr]

In the fourth panel of the first page. It looks like Madara is having an orgasm

 

[Olorin]

reading the chapter now:

hmmm ... so after all that Itachi eyes transfer Sasuke is still bleeding ... yes very ''eternal''

ha, mafara has a hashiNose nipple

No Kishi, don't try to be philosophical, you jus't can't do it well

btw what is Sai still doing there?

hmm ... seems Madara is taking Hashirama inside of him ... hmm I know Naruto and gy jokes, old right, but there is a reason so many exist

So Madara is not only not immortal anymore but he does not have his Rinnegan anymore either ... even more than that he went blind?

o cmon just die Obito

Madara ''eyes'' the biju ... -.-'


it was somewhat of an ok chapter I'll give it a 3/5 just because I am somewhat hyped about Naruto after a looooooooooong time

 

[ShinraTensei17]

What a chapter. I can't believe what I'm actually saying but I'm starting to get intersted to Naruto again. That was epic! Madara is a beast. The interaction of Sasuke and Madara was so good, I was waiting for this a long time. Black Zetsu seems to helping Madara by using Obito's body. I don't like it that much but that's cool. What a great last page. Can't wait for next week's chapter! :bouncy:

 

[DocThao]

for a second i though Sasuke was going to be TnJ'd by Madara

 

[DocThao]

In the fourth panel of the first page. It looks like Madara is having an orgasm

that's what i thought too

 

[kmw1811]

This chapter was ridiculous XD

Madara is officially the most powerful for now, he's way more powerful after absorbing Hashi's Senju powers and seeing as though he can heal himself WITHOUT the Rinnegan...HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE???

Sasuke is somewhat reckless now, why? And I think Madara would be WAY too OP if he took Sasuke's eyes
Black Zetsu just creeps me out, he kinda reminds me of Venom

Finally, Madara vs. the Tailed Beasts and the Kages
I can't wait for next week's chapter! XD

 

[Itachi Edo]

Loved it. Madara solos everyone low diff, Sasuke gets screen time with Madara, and he's about to wreck the tailed beasts. Can't wait to see where Kishi takes this.

 

[Naruske Izuchiah]

Good chapter for once!

But he what's Madara mean when he says: you don't have much time left anyways /your'e on borrowed time anyways to Sasuke ??? Does that mean Sasuke is going to die?

The panels before, Madara was saying how it would be a shame to simply kill Sasuke, so he offered him to join him. When Sasuke refuses, Madara shrugs it off by saying that quote; basically saying you're going to die Sasuke and I was gonna give you more time to live, but since you refused, now its only a matter of time before I kill you.

That's how I understood Madara's words. Hope it helped a little.

 

[Naruske Izuchiah]

Who he obtains the power of both Uchiha and Senju can find real happiness and do the unthinkable

I think if Madara can't seal them within himself to become the jinchuriki then at least he can control them with the Sharinga, or Hashirama's wood release powers, now that he has his chakra. And remember Hashi was able to control several of the tail beasts at once as even stated on naruto.wikia website.