Minato vs Tobirama

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You can't make up scenarios like that. I could easily just say this:
- Tobirama uses Suiton to cover a small area.
- Tobirama tags himself with Hiraishin and teleports Minato to himself since's connected to his chakra (standing on Suiton).
- Minato gets stabbed by a kunai/katana.

Tobirama has never fought like that and in the above scenario, Minato hasn't fought like that either.

It's a tad far-fetched

Prove that Tobirama can teleport to his water jutsus?
As far as I know that's Minato's ability to teleport anything has his chakra, but who said Tobi
can do the same?

Not to mention he MUST have a seal/s somewhere there to teleport just like when Minato teleported the alliance
he teleported them to a place where there was a seal of his.
 

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oh well its your opinion.Lol

But he got blitzed by Base Minato and his shunshin is on the same level has Hiruzen sooo...

tobirama got blitzed by base minato??? i know minato can do it but when it happened??? :what: and i respectfully disagree...! tobirama's shunshin is hyped beyond the reach of 3rd hokage...! after all he was praised for his shunshin until minato came into picture...!
 

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@KingHashirama

you think the ANBU's statement about the bros being the "best" means they are the "strongest" from what I have
understood from your debate!

So, do you agree that itachi is stronger than both Hashi & Tobi?


by your definition of better and best!
 

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tobirama got blitzed by base minato??? i know minato can do it but when it happened??? :what: and i respectfully disagree...! tobirama's shunshin is hyped beyond the reach of 3rd hokage...! after all he was praised for his shunshin until minato came into picture...!

Minato placed a kunai in a different location,marked different areas for the red barrier jutsu to take place warped the juubi tbb then had a conversation with naruto.Then Tobirama came in stating how shit his shunshin is and guess what, Hiruzen and Hashirama also came at the same time.

Tobirama along with the Hokage's was using shunshin to rush to the battlefield.I don't listen to hype i go with feats and Tobirama's shunshin in my eye's are mediocre.

but its your opinion man at least you know minato has better shunshin.Lol
 

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Prove that Tobirama can teleport to his water jutsus?
As far as I know that's Minato's ability to teleport anything has his chakra, but who said Tobi
can do the same?

Not to mention he MUST have a seal/s somewhere there to teleport just like when Minato teleported the alliance
he teleported them to a place where there was a seal of his.
He doesn't teleport to his Suiton, I didn't say that. Read carefully.

- He can teleport Minato to himself because he's connected to his chakra, and because Tobirama has a seal on himself.

- It's the same goddamn jutsu. Minato improved upon Tobirama's FTG by incorporating kunai.

The fundamentals of FTG are still exactly the same.
 

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Minato placed a kunai in a different location,marked different areas for the red barrier jutsu to take place warped the juubi tbb then had a conversation with naruto.Then Tobirama came in stating how shit his shunshin is and guess what, Hiruzen and Hashirama also came at the same time.

Tobirama along with the Hokage's was using shunshin to rush to the battlefield.I don't listen to hype i go with feats and Tobirama's shunshin in my eye's are mediocre.

but its your opinion man at least you know minato has better shunshin.Lol

well i was thinking that minato attacked tobirama or something...! and if all had same shunshin then tobirama alone wouldn't have compared his shunshin to minato's and actually i do believe in hype and yes it's just my opinion so we are ok...! :)
 

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He doesn't teleport to his Suiton, I didn't say that. Read carefully.

- He can teleport Minato to himself because he's connected to his chakra, and because Tobirama has a seal on himself.

- It's the same goddamn jutsu. Minato improved upon Tobirama's FTG by incorporating kunai.

The fundamentals of FTG are still exactly the same.

- yeah, sorry.

- No, he can't. Also, it's not even IC to do so, that's only fanfiction.
- Wrong again.
1- Minato's using the other jutsu which is Chakra Transfer Technique to do so, not a chakra which was already used
for a water jutsu!

2- Minato's FTG is used with Kunais + it's faster. Also, how do you know that the ability to use it with the Chakra Transfer Technique is not one of Minato's improvement? Tobi has never shown the ability to do that by himself.

- Again, Tobirama does not have the chakra transfer jutsu. Unless you can give me Tobirama's FEATS, not fanfiction.
 

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- yeah, sorry.

- No, he can't. Also, it's not even IC to do so, that's only fanfiction.
- Wrong again.
1- Minato's using the other jutsu which is Chakra Transfer Technique to do so, not a chakra which was already used
for a water jutsu!

2- Minato's FTG is used with Kunais + it's faster. Also, how do you know that the ability to use it with the Chakra Transfer Technique is not one of Minato's improvement? Tobi has never shown the ability to do that by himself.

- Again, Tobirama does not have the chakra transfer jutsu. Unless you can give me Tobirama's FEATS, not fanfiction.
I already said it's not IC for him to do that, but he can do it.

Chakra Transfer Technique? What the heck? This has nothing to do with FTG. That technique is only to do with giving out Kurama cloaks.

I'm not even sure you know what the tech does; it allows the user to transfer chakra to their intended receiver. Now how does that have anything to do with FTG?
 

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Don't attempt to argue with Tobirama fanboys. You can't win, they're too stubborn. Dariu beat Gin and Kingaku, yet Tobirama was put on the verge of death. Tobirama lost to twenty Jonin Fodders, when Minato attacked the front lines of enemy territory. People overhype Tobirama way too much only because he has a jacket with fur, looks cool, and was chosen as the Second Hokage by his brother.

Darui didn't beat Gin & Kin by himself when Kin got serious he was busting up a whole unit of the Shinobi Alliance he was demolitioning everyone it was stated in the manga .

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Darui didn't beat Gin & Kin by himself when Kin got serious he was busting up a whole unit of the Shinobi Alliance he was demolitioning everyone it was stated in the manga .

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Yes, I already know. It was simply an occasion where my point being made wasn't put forth clearly. I meant to imply outsmarting them, as he did outsmart one of them.
 

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Yes, I already know. It was simply an occasion where my point being made wasn't put forth clearly. I meant to imply outsmarting them, as he did outsmart one of them.

no he didn't ''outsmart'' anyone of them, his most used word changed at the last moment, he got lucky
 

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so now its tobiama tanking and grabbing rasengan xd

rasengan will drill a hole in him and kill him
 

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QUOTE=End of Days;13755046]so now its tobiama tanking and grabbing rasengan xd

rasengan will drill a hole in him and kill him[/QUOTE]

He grabbed a stronger version of the Rasengan. Manga feats > your fanfiction.
 

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no he didn't ''outsmart'' anyone of them, his most used word changed at the last moment, he got lucky

He still doesn't get that it was sheer plot/luck the brothers loss.
 

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QUOTE=End of Days;13755046]so now its tobiama tanking and grabbing rasengan xd

rasengan will drill a hole in him and kill him


He grabbed a stronger version of the Rasengan. Manga feats > your fanfiction.
Rasengan has spin, he isn't holding it. What Tobirama grabbed was a stationary ball of chakra yet to explode, anyone can hold that. It's not a stronger version of rasengan only because it is of more chakra natures. It has more chakra natures than FRS, are you implying that he can also grab and stop FRS?

He still doesn't get that it was sheer plot/luck the brothers loss.
Nice to know, won't change my argument in anyway, and that is all that matters.
 

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Rasengan has spin, he isn't holding it. What Tobirama grabbed was a stationary ball of chakra yet to explode, anyone can hold that. It's not a stronger version of rasengan only because it is of more chakra natures. It has more chakra natures than FRS, are you implying that he can also grab and stop FRS?


Nice to know, won't change my argument in anyway, and that is all that matters.

Minato over both brothers with 5 weapons? lol Ok
 

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Minato over both brothers with 5 weapons? lol Ok
Wot? Whomever said that? You are assuming now. I only ever stated Tobirama was outclassed by them while fighting along with the Nidaime Raikage when Darui "out smarted them" (which I seem to have been wrong in saying). Your point has no reasoning behind it and is an assumption of what I wrote on this thread (as I didn't write this nonsense).
 

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Wot? Whomever said that? You are assuming now. I only ever stated Tobirama was outclassed by them while fighting along with the Nidaime Raikage when Darui "out smarted them" (which I seem to have been wrong in saying). Your point has no reasoning behind it and is an assumption of what I wrote on this thread (as I didn't write this nonsense).

My bad it was the other Minato Wanker who was serious about Minato taking both out.
 

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Wot? Whomever said that? You are assuming now. I only ever stated Tobirama was outclassed by them while fighting along with the Nidaime Raikage when Darui "out smarted them" (which I seem to have been wrong in saying). Your point has no reasoning behind it and is an assumption of what I wrote on this thread (as I didn't write this nonsense).

You are assuming the Nidaime Raikage survived the ambush. Quit assuming how the fight went. You know nothing of it, so quit pretending you do.
 
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