Minato vs Tobirama

[Oblivionx]

If you mean with FTG then yeah but he ain't no speed demon on foot.

no tobirama is quite fast even without ftg and probably has 2nd best reaction speed....! his shunshin is also quite fast as demonstrated against god tree, minato and tobirama escaped easily but BSM naruto was caught...! that speed on foot is pretty OP if you ask me...!

 

[Minator93]

Let Tobirama first beat 20 Jounins, after that we can talk Lol

 

[NarutoIndra]

Let Tobirama first beat 20 Jounins, after that we can talk Lol

Don't attempt to argue with Tobirama fanboys. You can't win, they're too stubborn. Dariu beat Gin and Kingaku, yet Tobirama was put on the verge of death. Tobirama lost to twenty Jonin Fodders, when Minato attacked the front lines of enemy territory. People overhype Tobirama way too much only because he has a jacket with fur, looks cool, and was chosen as the Second Hokage by his brother.

 

[Optimistic]

no tobirama is quite fast even without ftg and probably has 2nd best reaction speed....! his shunshin is also quite fast as demonstrated against god tree, minato and tobirama escaped easily but BSM naruto was caught...! that speed on foot is pretty OP if you ask me...!

oh well its your opinion.Lol

But he got blitzed by Base Minato and his shunshin is on the same level has Hiruzen sooo...

 

[Bogard]

Tobirama notices alot of more things then Minato did.

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When it comes to arsenal minato has the advantage threw different combinations and all but battling features Tobirama has shown to be more impressive a much quick thinker ,intelligent, Battle tacticer im giving it to tobirama.

Lol at Tobirma being smarter or battle tacticier or whatever. Entire shinobi alliance(including someone as smart as Shikamaru) didn't manage to find a way to deflect Jubi's Bijudama. Minato just arriving on the battlefield proceeded to organise his plan by placing a kunai in a far away rock middle ocean that could serve him for the deflection of said Bijudama in the area, all that in one-go, and was still one step ahead with the initial plan of dispercing the Hokages for the red sun barrier impressing both Tobirama and Hiruzen by his quickness to act


Again when everyone(Tobirama and Hashirama incl) were rushing to attack Madara before his revival, Minato just made a clone and shut Obito down, stopping said revival

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Here we even see Tobirama questioning himself about Minato's prowess

Concerning the analytical aspect, Edo tensei is Tobirama's own fucking jutsu. It's kind of normal that he would know more things concerning his own jutsu than someone else, right? If it was Minato the one who analysed it better than Tobirama, it would have been a shame for Tobirama actually for a stranger to know better on his own jutsu than him, so that thing is not undermining Minato by any means, but actually showing a logical thing that should be. Minato stated here that it takes some time for the edo tensei body to recover, but he didn't know when exactly the recovery time starts to take effect [

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], and he had no reason to know such a thing better than the creator of the technique itself. Tobirama created the technique and used in a lot when he was alive, so obviously he would know when the recovery time should start better than anyone else

Concerning the Onmyoudon discovery, it has nothing to do with analysis, but knowledge. That simply means Tobirama had more knowledge concerning Rikudo-like techniques than Minato, something that shouldn't be surprising when you know he is a damn Senju

Not even mentioning the fact that Kishimoto clearly showed us that at that point, Minato wasn't even concentrating in the fight in itself since he was trying to rather understand his opponent who was once his student. It was the only thing that was in his mind at that point. When other people were calmly fighting or analysing, himself was doubting himself or trying to understand his student [

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Tobirama was all bragging about the fact the only option was to start warping Bijuudamas one after another forgetting it would be easier to warp just the tree as a whole

As long as Minato himself isn't emotive, he has shown to be a quicker thinking and more analytic than Tobirama

 

[Draegod]

Don't attempt to argue with Tobirama fanboys. You can't win, they're too stubborn. Dariu beat Gin and Kingaku, yet Tobirama was put on the verge of death. Tobirama lost to twenty Jonin Fodders, when Minato attacked the front lines of enemy territory. People overhype Tobirama way too much only because he has a jacket with fur, looks cool, and was chosen as the Second Hokage by his brother.

LMMFAO WHat did you just say????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Did you just say Dairu defeated the Kingin Brothers???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Delete your account! Minato Loses to the 2 as well btw.

 

[Minator93]

LMMFAO WHat did you just say????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Did you just say Dairu defeated the Kingin Brothers???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Delete your account! Minato Loses to the 2 as well btw.

Minato hands their asses down to them U_U

 

[Draegod]

Minato hands their asses down to them U_U

Minato literally has nothing to harm them in V2. What do you propose (waits for ridiculous minato answer)

 

[NarutoIndra]

LMMFAO WHat did you just say????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Did you just say Dairu defeated the Kingin Brothers???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Delete your account! Minato Loses to the 2 as well btw.

He outsmarted them, anyone stating otherwise is wistful.
Delete my account? How ironic, coming from Draegod, someone infamous for being incorrect and delusional on NB.

 

[Minator93]

Minato literally has nothing to harm them in V2. What do you propose (waits for ridiculous minato answer)

Assuming they survive the initial spped-blitz [i.e. dist being greater than 200-300 meters] and even after that living long enough to go to v2, well Minato summons Gamabunta, Gamaken for offensive backup. Minato isn't a mountain buster but his summons definitely are U_U

Minato also can end it pretty quickly, he spawns two shadow clones, summons a small toad like Gama, marks Gama with Hiraishin no jutsu and aks gama to go to the toad oil fountain. Minato's shadow clones then grab the Kin bros and directly teleport to Gama and dip the bastard in the toad oil which would be an instant KO.

Also even in v2 they're not even gonna touch Minato heck they barely did anything to Darui. Minato can leave marks on them via his clones and go sip a cup of coffee and once they're out of it [can't maintain that form forever] he can slit their throats or rather have his clones do that for him.

 

[Draegod]

He outsmarted them, anyone stating otherwise is wistful.
Delete my account? How ironic, coming from Draegod, someone infamous for being incorrect and delusional on NB.

No he didnt. LMAO Reread the manga kid. Noobs like to think they know me because I put them in there place, You are wayyy out of your league. If i don't Have haters I have no job. Remember that Kiddo.

Assuming they survive the initial spped-blitz [i.e. dist being greater than 200-300 meters] and even after that living long enough to go to v2, well Minato summons Gamabunta, Gamaken for offensive backup. Minato isn't a mountain buster but his summons definitely are U_U

Minato also can end it pretty quickly, he spawns two shadow clones, summons a small toad like Gama, marks Gama with Hiraishin no jutsu and aks gama to go to the toad oil fountain. Minato's shadow clones then grab the Kin bros and directly teleport to Gama and dip the bastard in the toad oil which would be an instant KO.

Also even in v2 they're not even gonna touch Minato heck they barely did anything to Darui. Minato can leave marks on them via his clones and go sip a cup of coffee and once they're out of it [can't maintain that form forever] he can slit their throats or rather have his clones do that for him.

Did you just say his summons are mountain busters??? lmao

 

[Minator93]

Did you just say his summons are mountain busters??? lmao

In other words, you have nothign to back your words. Again you've been put in your place Lol

 

[Touken]

These threads never end well.

 

[Draegod]

In other words, you have nothign to back your words. Again you've been put in your place Lol

LMMFAO Show one mountain Any toad has ever "busted". hahahahahahahahahahahahah I cannot take you serious as usual, your arguments are weak and are a waist of time. You have never nor will never win a argument over me kiddo. Go ask Bogard for some advice like you always do, you're way out of your league kiddo. **Noobs are getting out of hand these days**

 

[NarutoIndra]

No he didnt. LMAO Reread the manga kid. Noobs like to think they know me because I put them in there place, You are wayyy out of your league. If i don't Have haters I have no job. Remember that Kiddo.



Did you just say his summons are mountain busters??? lmao

You are acting as if you are some intelligent adult when you seem to act and write like a 12 year old with low grammatical capability. You never put me in my place, you simply made a claim that Darui didn't beat Gin and Kingaku. On the other hand, these scans partially say otherwise [

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]. He beat Gin but didn't get the chance to fight a rampaging Kin. Nothing is implying that they could even use the Kyuubi's chakra back then (against Tobirama), as we don't know if that was before or after the fight. Even Tsunade claimed she didn't know they had kurama's chakra, partially meaning they fought Tobirama without it. It would be rather inaccurate to think Tobirama reported that he was put on the verge of death yet didn't say they could use the Kyuubi's chakra. Again, feels ironic you are calling me kiddo with that arrogant confidence level and that premature grammar. Seems to me one only calls others Kiddo when they themselves are actually intelligent.

 

[Minator93]

LMMFAO Show one mountain Any toad has ever "busted". hahahahahahahahahahahahah I cannot take you serious as usual, your arguments are weak and are a waist of time. You have never nor will never win a argument over me kiddo. Go ask Bogard for some advice like you always do, you're way out of your league kiddo. **Noobs are getting out of hand these days**

Weak argument? "waist" of time? Kiddo? noobs? out of your league?

Son your ego is writing the cheques that your ass can't cash Lol you're way too full of yourself.

One more thing you've never won any argument when we've debated, I've always put you in your place and you've come up with salty replies so nothing is new I guess.

 

[Draegod]

You are acting as if you are some intelligent adult when you seem to act and write like a 12 year old with low grammatical capability. You never put me in my place, you simply made a claim that Darui didn't beat Gin and Kingaku. On the other hand, these scans partially say otherwise [

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]. He beat Gin but didn't get the chance to fight a rampaging Kin. Nothing is implying that they could even use the Kyuubi's chakra back then (against Tobirama), as we don't know if that was before or after the fight. Even Tsunade claimed she didn't know they had kurama's chakra, partially meaning they fought Tobirama without it. It would be rather inaccurate to think Tobirama reported that he was put on the verge of death yet didn't say they could use the Kyuubi's chakra. Again, feels ironic you are calling me kiddo with that arrogant confidence level and that premature grammar. Seems to me one only calls others Kiddo when they themselves are actually intelligent.

- KinGin played with Dariu and company and still sealed him if not for Luck or plot switching his favorite word. Fact.

- Dariu had 2 and a half divisions and The world head quarters to stand a chance against one. And even then they were sealed with their own weapons noob. It wasn't Darui solo, dont know what manga you were reading.

- It's a fact They had the Kyubi chakra before their fight, are you slow?

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If you can read you would see they had the chakra When Hashirama was still FIRST HOKAGE and Madara was still alive. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy Before the 2nd became hokage. Again reread the manga.

Kiddo, I don't take any of you serious. Any one can be on the internet talking Grammar skills, but not every one can be in college about to graduate with a degree. I can care less how I type on the forums because it is for fun and I type fast not caring. I just love toying with Noobs such as you.

 

[Draegod]

Weak argument? "waist" of time? Kiddo? noobs? out of your league?

Son your ego is writing the cheques that your ass can't cash Lol you're way too full of yourself.

One more thing you've never won any argument when we've debated, I've always put you in your place and you've come up with salty replies so nothing is new I guess.

Show one thread you bested me solo kid. You are nothing but a lacky of Bogard. You are nothing to me, Noobs will be noobs. LMAO

 

[Tobby17]

Lol at Tobirma being smarter or battle tacticier or whatever. Entire shinobi alliance(including someone as smart as Shikamaru) didn't manage to find a way to deflect Jubi's Bijudama. Minato just arriving on the battlefield proceeded to organise his plan by placing a kunai in a far away rock middle ocean that could serve him for the deflection of said Bijudama in the area, all that in one-go, and was still one step ahead with the initial plan of dispercing the Hokages for the red sun barrier impressing both Tobirama and Hiruzen by his quickness to act


Again when everyone(Tobirama and Hashirama incl) were rushing to attack Madara before his revival, Minato just made a clone and shut Obito down, stopping said revival

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Here we even see Tobirama questioning himself about Minato's prowess

Concerning the analytical aspect, Edo tensei is Tobirama's own fucking jutsu. It's kind of normal that he would know more things concerning his own jutsu than someone else, right? If it was Minato the one who analysed it better than Tobirama, it would have been a shame for Tobirama actually for a stranger to know better on his own jutsu than him, so that thing is not undermining Minato by any means, but actually showing a logical thing that should be. Minato stated here that it takes some time for the edo tensei body to recover, but he didn't know when exactly the recovery time starts to take effect [

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], and he had no reason to know such a thing better than the creator of the technique itself. Tobirama created the technique and used in a lot when he was alive, so obviously he would know when the recovery time should start better than anyone else

Concerning the Onmyoudon discovery, it has nothing to do with analysis, but knowledge. That simply means Tobirama had more knowledge concerning Rikudo-like techniques than Minato, something that shouldn't be surprising when you know he is a damn Senju

Not even mentioning the fact that Kishimoto clearly showed us that at that point, Minato wasn't even concentrating in the fight in itself since he was trying to rather understand his opponent who was once his student. It was the only thing that was in his mind at that point. When other people were calmly fighting or analysing, himself was doubting himself or trying to understand his student [

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On the other side, i could show you this panel

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Tobirama was all bragging about the fact the only option was to start warping Bijuudamas one after another forgetting it would be easier to warp just the tree as a whole

As long as Minato himself isn't emotive, he has shown to be a quicker thinking and more analytic than Tobirama

Ok, you think Tobirama noticing that Onmyoudon was nullifying ninjustu has to do with Knowledge, fair enough. But what about him realizing that senjustu will work after only seeing the attack from the toad not getting erased?. I mean isn't that analysing actually?. Except there's another definition for it.

And concerning Minato wanting to warp away the tree, it wasn't going to work anyways, so how does that even make him any smarter?. You would think Minato will realize that Obito won't just let them do it?. So while Minato's idea seemed ''better'', Tobirama's was actually much more plausible. btw Naruto came up with a better idea than both of them, does that make him smarter than Tobirama and Minato?

 

[Minator93]

Show one thread you bested me solo kid. You are nothing but a lacky of Bogard. You are nothing to me, Noobs will be noobs. LMAO

Just because Boagrd and I both think Minato beats Itachi and are Minato's fans I'm his lacky? Didn't you once accuse of him being my alt vice-versa Lol I hardly ever debate as someone's partner, I've been flying solo on this site from day one.

Show you threads? Lol I've made threads that have owned you. And this one will join the ranks since you are unable to come up with anything Lol [as always]

Kid? You're not the only "collage graduate with a degree" Know that you're talking to a Civil Engineer, Kid.