Minato vs Tobirama

[NarutoIndra]

- KinGin played with Dariu and company and still sealed him if not for Luck or plot switching his favorite word. Fact.

- Dariu had 2 and a half divisions and The world head quarters to stand a chance against one. And even then they were sealed with their own weapons noob. It wasn't Darui solo, dont know what manga you were reading.

- It's a fact They had the Kyubi chakra before their fight, are you slow?

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If you can read you would see they had the chakra When Hashirama was still FIRST HOKAGE and Madara was still alive. Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy Before the 2nd became hokage. Again reread the manga.

Kiddo, I don't take any of you serious. Any one can be on the internet talking Grammar skills, but not every one can be in college about to graduate with a degree. I can care less how I type on the forums because it is for fun and I type fast not caring. I just love toying with Noobs such as you.

Okay, didn't realise they had the chakra back then, yet it doesn't change the fact that Tobirama loses. Tobirama cannot hit Minato, it is simple. Minato has better speed, a better FTG, better arsenal, better analytical ability, a summon, and can sense as well. They are equal in everything apart from Tobirama having higher chakra reserves, an element, and an edo tensei. Your blatant attempts of insulting others is likely on there to satisfy your low grammatical capabilities, and possibly low self esteem which in turn is switched with an arrogant attitude, or you are simply an ass. College degree? More like community college. Your excuse of bad grammar is laughable at best.

-How does Tobirama counter Ma and Pa's Senpō: Kawazu Naki or Magen: Gama Rinshō?
-How does Tobirama counter FTG's range?

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? Even if Tobi realises the Kunai's are FTG, he still can't figure out the range and how to stay out of it. Especially when there is this many Kunai's [

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-How does Tobirama counter Shima and Fukasaku reverse summing Gamabunta, Gamaken, and Gamahiro?
-How does Tobirama tank an odama sized rasengan?
-Tobirama's attack are all countered via FTG Kunai's, Shunshin, S/T Barrier.

 

[Prince Charles]

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Please don't bring up Minato using Ma and Pa as we have no info on how he even summons them considering they arent a regular summon, Minato has shown no feats of using ma and pa and there is no evidence he has the capability of summoning them. And please dont post that db scan where kishi saids every contract with a frog summon means a contract with all of them.

 

[Minator93]

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Please don't bring up Minato using Ma and Pa as we have no info on how he even summons them considering they arent a regular summon, Minato has shown no feats of using ma and pa and there is no evidence he has the capability of summoning them. And please dont post that db scan where kishi saids every contract with a frog summon means a contact with all of them.

Jusy like people saying Minato couldn't use Shadow Clone [A standard Jounin Tech] because we had no evidence vack then? Some fodders say Minato needs to be an edo to pull that off.

Its perfectly possible for Minato to summon ma and pa, heck he can do it in multiple ways.

1. Summon them directly

2. Summon toad like Gama or Gerotora, mark him and ask him to go back to toad land and to the sages. Teleport to them and teleport back with them Lol

 

[NarutoIndra]

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Please don't bring up Minato using Ma and Pa as we have no info on how he even summons them considering they arent a regular summon, Minato has shown no feats of using ma and pa and there is no evidence he has the capability of summoning them. And please dont post that db scan where kishi saids every contract with a frog summon means a contact with all of them.

Having a contract with the toads is having a contract with all the toads. No where is it stated there is a difference between regular summons and recur toads. Claiming only 'summon toads' can be summoned is like saying part 1 Naruto summoning that tadpole was him summoning a 'summoned toad'. There is no difference between any of the toads and no such thing as summon toads and non-summonable toads. Why Not?

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It can't be deemed as a hyperbole like Totsuka and it claims upon the users ability.

 

[Prince Charles]

Jusy like people saying Minato couldn't use Shadow Clone [A standard Jounin Tech] because we had no evidence vack then? Some fodders say Minato needs to be an edo to pull that off.

Its perfectly possible for Minato to summon ma and pa, heck he can do it in multiple ways.

1. Summon them directly

2. Summon toad like Gama or Gerotora, mark him and ask him to go back to toad land and to the sages. Teleport to them and teleport back with them Lol

Again we have no info on how he summons them or if he even has the capability of doing so, saying so is false and fanfiction, I wont deny it is possible but giving minato ma and pa in a fight is fanfiction. Fact.

Jusy like people saying Minato couldn't use Shadow Clone [A standard Jounin Tech] because we had no evidence vack then? Some fodders say Minato needs to be an edo to pull that off.

I am not one of those people. I know alive Minato can use shadow clones but Ma and Pa are a different case here like it or not.

 

[Prince Charles]

Having a contract with the toads is having a contract with all the toads. No where is it stated there is a difference between regular summons and recur toads. Claiming only 'summon toads' can be summoned is like saying part 1 Naruto summoning that tadpole was him summoning a 'summoned toad'. There is no difference between any of the toads and no such thing as summon toads and non-summonable toads. Why Not?

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It can't be deemed as a hyperbole like Totsuka and it claims upon the users ability.

Sigh. Why did I know you were going to post that scan? Anyways like i said we have no knowledge on how he would summon them or if he can. It was already displayed how jirayia has his own method of getting ma and pa to his location. We do not know Minato's methods so it's futile to give ma and pa to minato in a fight.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Again we have no info on how he summons them or if he even has the capability of doing so, saying so is false and fanfiction, I wont deny it is possible but giving minato ma and pa in a fight is fanfiction. Fact..

I assume you didn't read the point in which he said he can summon geratora, mark him, release him, teleport* to Mount Myokubo, and come back to the fight with them... Gamabunta can take one for the team while this occurs.
Edit: You can't refute my first point, the only reason you would deny it is because you want to perceive things the way you want them to be so your initial argument stays valid.

 

[Minator93]

Again we have no info on how he summons them or if he even has the capability of doing so, saying so is false and fanfiction, I wont deny it is possible but giving minato ma and pa in a fight is fanfiction. Fact.
I am not one of those people. I know alive Minato can use shadow clones but Ma and Pa are a different case here like it or not.

I know you're not one of them.

Also you're only on denial because how threatening Minato becomes if he has the sages with him, ht possibility of Minato having them makes him more OP that he already is.

Again If its taking time for him to summon them, he can do it the second way I described it.

 

[Bogard]

The contract is the same for every toad. It's not as if you needed to sign a different contract with Pa and Ma to summon them since Ma has shown the capacity to summon Pa, Gamabunta, Naruto and others in one-go during the Pain attack the same way summoners like Naruto, Jiraya or Minato have shown to be able to. That alone shows it's not a different contract

 

[Prince Charles]

I assume you didn't read the point in which he said he can summon geratora, mark him, release him, summon to Mount Myokubo, and come back to the fight with them... Gamabunta can take one for the team while this occurs.

Lol I did read it, I simply didn't acknowledge as it seemed rather fiction to me. Is it possible yes? would really happen in a fight? We can't say.

I know you're not one of them.

Also you're only on denial because how threatening Minato becomes if he has the sages with him, ht possibility of Minato having them makes him more OP that he already is.

Again If its taking time for him to summon them, he can do it the second way I described it.

I did see your methods for Minato obtaining ma and pa but I just don't see it happening. Sorry but I would never be in denial over a fictional character bro.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Lol I did read it, I simply didn't acknowledge as it seemed rather fiction to me. Is it possible yes? would really happen in a fight? We can't say.

Lol. You are sounding a little desperate right now to find a counter for such an argument. Probably because it cannot be countered. It is definitely possible to do this scenario. Moreover, it is also possible to do the scenario I presented. You are simply ignoring all of those points because you don't want them to be true. You cannot come up with an argument that actually counters them, so you give off an act of putting yourself in constant doubt to refute them. Too bad they weren't refuted, both are still possible, and odds are they are more likely to occur than not.

 

[Prince Charles]

Lol. You are sounding a little desperate right now to find a counter for such an argument. Probably because it cannot be countered. It is definitely possible to do this scenario. Moreover, it is also possible to do the scenario I presented. You are simply ignoring all of those points because you don't want them to be true. You cannot come up with an argument that actually counters them, so you give off an act of putting yourself in constant doubt to refute them. Too bad they weren't refuted, both are still possible, and odds are they are more likely to occur than not.

Believe what you may as it has no mental or physical effect on me tbh. I have my own view on the matter, feel free to be inclined to your own opinion.

 

[WolfHaley]

Looking back on it, I think Tobirama's overall intelligence and battle experience is better, but they both are about equal in analytical abilities.

oh well its your opinion.Lol

But he got blitzed by Base Minato and his shunshin is on the same level has Hiruzen sooo...

Yes, they are as fast as Madara by calculations.

Don't attempt to argue with Tobirama fanboys. You can't win, they're too stubborn. Dariu beat Gin and Kingaku, yet Tobirama was put on the verge of death. Tobirama lost to twenty Jonin Fodders, when Minato attacked the front lines of enemy territory. People overhype Tobirama way too much only because he has a jacket with fur, looks cool, and was chosen as the Second Hokage by his brother.

Darui did not beat them. A whole division fought them. Not only that, Darui did not get ambushed, and Darui had intel. Totally different scenarios, so please quit making oronious comparisons.

 

[Touken]

You can't make up scenarios like that. I could easily just say this:
- Tobirama uses Suiton to cover a small area.
- Tobirama tags himself with Hiraishin and teleports Minato to himself since's connected to his chakra (standing on Suiton).
- Minato gets stabbed by a kunai/katana.

Tobirama has never fought like that and in the above scenario, Minato hasn't fought like that either.

It's a tad far-fetched

 

[WolfHaley]

Please tell me you aren't serious with this nonsense....if he tries to stupidly grab Rasengan when Minato is trying to slam it down on him, it explodes and he dies.

How will it not work? He grabbed a black ball which is very similar to Rasengan and did not get damaged. Quit being in denial.

 

[Klad]

I think this is a high diff victory for Minato . His FTG is better , has better arsenal etc. True that Tobirama has Edo Tensei , but we haven't seen him using it , even if he uses it , he will revive some random fodders whom Minato would own them with clones . Tobirama is a strong nin too , but Minato is better overall .

 

[Nattana]

Minato wins.

 

[Draegod]

Okay, didn't realise they had the chakra back then, yet it doesn't change the fact that Tobirama loses. Tobirama cannot hit Minato, it is simple. Minato has better speed, a better FTG, better arsenal, better analytical ability, a summon, and can sense as well. They are equal in everything apart from Tobirama having higher chakra reserves, an element, and an edo tensei. Your blatant attempts of insulting others is likely on there to satisfy your low grammatical capabilities, and possibly low self esteem which in turn is switched with an arrogant attitude, or you are simply an ass. College degree? More like community college. Your excuse of bad grammar is laughable at best.

-How does Tobirama counter Ma and Pa's Senpō: Kawazu Naki or Magen: Gama Rinshō?
-How does Tobirama counter FTG's range?

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? Even if Tobi realises the Kunai's are FTG, he still can't figure out the range and how to stay out of it. Especially when there is this many Kunai's [

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].
-How does Tobirama counter Shima and Fukasaku reverse summing Gamabunta, Gamaken, and Gamahiro?
-How does Tobirama tank an odama sized rasengan?
-Tobirama's attack are all countered via FTG Kunai's, Shunshin, S/T Barrier.

What the hell are you talking about? I dont care who wins! I think Minato wins if i had to pick, this topic does not concern me one bit. I was just insulted that you tried to downplay The kingin brothers as if they were weak. When its a fact Dariu did not defeat them. It was Dariu and The shinobi alliance with info that Defeated the brothers. Only ninjas alive that was good guy that even stood a chance was Naruto, Bee and Aye (and maybe kakashi vs 1). Any one else would of got raped!

And again kid, I love Toying With Noobs! Its the best feeling seeing them try so hard to look good or out do me. lmmfao

 

[NarutoIndra]

How will it not work? He grabbed a black ball which is very similar to Rasengan and did not get damaged. Quit being in denial.

Holding a a ball of Chakra for a few seconds before it explodes is not a durability feat. Rasengan is an attack that can be thrusted forward by its user, not a stationary ball of Chakra that has not exploded yet. It spins, Juubito's attack does not. Did you not recall what occurred the last time we saw the effects of the rasengan's spin? [

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] Note this was the first time Part 1 naruto ever accomplished the rasengan, while Kabuto countered with collecting chakra in his abdomen. Note the abdomen is stronger than the hand. Moreover, the rasengan's size doesn't compare to

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. It was bigger than his hand, and Minato was a full grown man. Naruto's rasengan was the

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of his hand, and he was still about 13 years old. It is safe to assume Minato's rasengan will not only destroy Tobirama's hand but render it unusable, considering it is about the size of Naruto's Odama rasengan [

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[Draegod]

[The contract is the same for every toad. It's not as if you needed to sign a different contract with Pa and Ma to summon them since Ma has shown the capacity to summon Pa, Gamabunta, Naruto and others in one-go during the Pain attack the same way summoners like Naruto, Jiraya or Minato have shown to be able to. That alone shows it's not a different contract[/QUOTE]

LMAo No! You must be a sage and have a particular Blood contract to summon the 2 sages:

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Straight from the databook! And as far as we know, minato doesnt have sage mode nor does he have the chakra to summon one of the sages that takes forever to summon BTW! (No non sage ninja was ever shown to summon them easily, thats how much chakra and concentration it takes one could assume!)



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