Agreed also most people can't get past the fact that the sage didn't know about sharingan, MS, or EMS. I do believe the elder son had the first EMS and as he had children there eyes became weaker since they lacked the hatred/suffering he went through on top of the juubi slowly being diluted out of his kin. To make sure the people after him could achieve this level he broke it down for each weaker version of his eye which later became the SharinganExcellent theory and I agree
Also I believe that Elder Son had something smilliar to EMS, maybe more powerfull or even had First EMS.
and to some of you arguing that he would be forced to take his brother eyes ?
No, it wasn't necessary especially If Sage of six paths divided his/Juubi power equally with Creation of All things to create his sons aka First Uchiha and First Senjuu. Even If it was biological birth then still it could be explained somehow. It is called devolution form Pure and The greatest source, in other words Sage of six paths's Rinnengan got devolved into EMS biologicaly as reaction for lack of Senjuu DNA which was used to create Younger Son and it would make sense also.
Then Blood diluted over times decresing occular power of eyes devolving it to Mangenkyou Sharingan..., The reason for devolution could be lack of hatred or decreasing amount of hatred which was needed to awake stronger occular power in your eyes. Finally even MS got devolved to Sharingan... and Then somehow Byakugan if it is even included into that story.
However to evolve your eye you need to fulfill special conditions as it is always much harder to get something then lost something what you had already
It could explain that they are two ways to get Sharingan, MS, EMS and Rinnnegan and maybe even Byakugan if it fit into story:
1) Be born already with these eyes
2) Reach and fulfill special conditions to get them:
- Sharingan - have hatred in yourself and be skilled enough, maybe strong genes as well
- MS - expierience death of close to you friends... either killing him/her by yourself or watching it... suffering cause increase of hatred which lead to increase occular power in eyes
- EMS - transplant your brother MS into your own eyes getting eternal light
- Rinnengan - having EMS and implanting Senjuu DNA in yourself also expierience enough suffering and knowledge about The World
This is how I see it works....
Elder Son was born with EMS in this case, while Sasuke, Madara, Izuna and Itachi, Shisui and Obito had to evolve their eyes reaching special conditions.
Remeber devolution comes really easy, but Evolution of something take much more time and much more efforts, as it is hard to gain something while it is easy to loose something.
I hope this clear up a bit![]()
Haha you stating manga facts based off of Itachi's lie.... further more... The sage's son being born with eyes 1 step weaker than his(EMS) is plausible and as time progressed the eyes got weaker(MS) and weaker(Sharingan). It also makes sense that the eyes can get stronger back to the Sage's as time and preparations were taken. Elder son did not have Rinnegan he had eyes weaker than the Sage's but still extremely powerful. Elder son being the first EMS user is more plausible than anything since it all came from him.He never got to kill his own brother if I'm correct. I'm not sure if he had someone more important in his life than him, since the whole COH started from them.
And Madara and Izuna still awakened first the MS. And Madara was naturally the first one to get EMS.
Manga facts prove it. And it was stated by Jiraiya that SO6P had Rinnegan. It's only natural for the son have one too, since he got his eyes.
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