Clearing up Yata Misconceptions
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bold makes no ****ing sense and is just a desperate attempt at sounding correct. Why the hell would you cross worlds with difference rules, logic, and methods.
second bold: can you prove it doesn't? Because i sure as shit can't. The only 'fight' we saw with itachi and nagato, itachi sealed him in totsuka. The only 'fight' we saw with itachi and naruto, naruto was always outclassed. Hashirama and itachi's never fought, and even then, it's only speculation that hashirama can win that fight before itachi dies from chakra loss. We've never seen itachi go all out. But, most importantly, that statement was most likely made for that period of time when there was only 1 uchiha(sasuke around). At that time, it was pretty much manga fact that only an uchiha was beating itachi - pain is debateable, and so is obito considering he's an uchiha.
The whole point is yata's hype has been proven to some degree but hasn't been debunked yet.
3rd bold: Yes. Because it's not blocking any of them, it's repelling them all. What would those tbb's do to yata when they're exploding in a bush far far away? Same way quintuple rashoumon and BM naruto redirected tbb's to ****off land, is the same way yata is going to do it.
so you agree that databook hype can be wrong ???????
Well, its more like people are unable to make the distinction between fact and Hyperbole...even though in most cases the distinction is clear...
If you're going to claim the entire article of yata mirror as hyperbole, It would be best to bring some proof for the matter, otherwise its just conjecture and baseless claims, considering 60% of the article has already been proven
Retard Hater spotted. The scan said all ninjutsu not senjutsu. Learn to read, retard.
Therefore, we have to accept that Yata's defence hold up to what it says it does considering Omnyoudon said **** all to amaterasu-rasengan, susano'o, ET, etc, but not to what it didn't say - senjutsu.
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I know it's a hyperbole.
Most "Breaks all defenses" "Blocks all attacks" "No possible defense" are hyperboles.
I was simply using One hyperbole argument (kamui) to counter other (Yata). Since Kamui's Entry directly counters Yata's that kind of gives me an indication of how Trust worthy Yata's entry actually is.
Why would if be "Forced" to materialize in front of it?.
Kakashi simply surrounds the object he wants to warp with barriers (no contact needed at all) and the space in between the barriers gets warped. There is no contact between the jutsu and the shield.
naruttebayo
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there you go
it couldnot save against sound (which was lethal as a matter of fact)+ u cannot deny that sound passed through it
it was useless against chibaku tensei
kamui is visual attack if kamui user can see through that means light is passing through
a visual jutsu attacking via light which is passing through yata what the hell it can do to protect
It can be invincible but it uses chakra for it's special properties to work, so it mean that
Yata Mirror only weakness is amount of wielder can dliver to Yata to reflect/turn back any attack...
Simple as That Itachi's amount of chakra is not enought to generate force which could negate Naruto bijuudama even, that why it wouln't block it.
However Someone as BM Naruto, Juubi Jinchurki Obito wielding that shield could be almost invicible
Sage of six paths with Yata Mirror could be invincible...
In Short: Yata Mirror is invincible but Itachiw with Yata isn't against attack which has more chakra put into it then Itachi's amount of chakra.
Yata Mirror only weakness is amount of wielder can dliver to Yata to reflect/turn back any attack...
Simple as That Itachi's amount of chakra is not enought to generate force which could negate Naruto bijuudama even, that why it wouln't block it.
However Someone as BM Naruto, Juubi Jinchurki Obito wielding that shield could be almost invicible
Sage of six paths with Yata Mirror could be invincible...
In Short: Yata Mirror is invincible but Itachiw with Yata isn't against attack which has more chakra put into it then Itachi's amount of chakra.
Regarding the kinetic force, the power of a few Explosion Tags is no way near as powerful as the higher power C-Bombs or a TBB. The reason Hashirama's Quintuple Rashoumon is because he allowed a certain amount of tolerance regarding movement as opposed to Orochimaru who had them stand fixed into position, taking the full grunt of the attack.
judging from everyone's statements regarding Kamui.... if they went head to head Yata will simply obtain the properties of a black hole and cancel out kamui thus blocking it. We already seen in the manga that Kamui cancels out kamui... Yata will simply add the properties of that attack and nuillfy it
the point he was making was not the level of the explosion but the type of explosion... Kinetic force from an explosion is kinetic force from an explosion no matter what type of explosion it is.. Yata blocked it so rather its TBB, C3 or whatever it still will be blocked
Yata does not use chakra... It's a godly spiritual entity
Black Wolf
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Whoever is using the Yata Mirror's databook description as justification that it is invincibility manifested must also, for the sake of maintaining consistency throughout their argument, accept that other techniques can defeat it. Kamui's databook entry states it is unblockable, as I'm sure the majority of the posters here have elaborated upon. Raikiri's databook entry states it can cut through anything. Chou Odama Rasengan's databook entry states it can swallow everything.
You cannot selectively pick which databook entry suits your needs and ignore all the others. If you use one hyperbolic databook description as proof, you will have to accept all of them. And accepting all of them means that you are accepting numerous entries that hype a jutsu to similar proportions that the Yata Mirror is hyped.
People are using the lack of feats the Yata Mirror has to its benefit to show that "it must be true since it hasn't been disproven yet." Fact of the matter is, a standard Doton wall has nearly identical feats to Yata Mirror. Obviously, I'm sure that Yata Mirror is more powerful, but it has its limits, and using an obviously hyperbolic databook statement as the sole foundation of your arguments and essentially employ a no-limits fallacy is not convincing in the slightest.
You cannot selectively pick which databook entry suits your needs and ignore all the others. If you use one hyperbolic databook description as proof, you will have to accept all of them. And accepting all of them means that you are accepting numerous entries that hype a jutsu to similar proportions that the Yata Mirror is hyped.
People are using the lack of feats the Yata Mirror has to its benefit to show that "it must be true since it hasn't been disproven yet." Fact of the matter is, a standard Doton wall has nearly identical feats to Yata Mirror. Obviously, I'm sure that Yata Mirror is more powerful, but it has its limits, and using an obviously hyperbolic databook statement as the sole foundation of your arguments and essentially employ a no-limits fallacy is not convincing in the slightest.
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KidGamer65
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This is probably the truest and most trustworthy part of the explanation of Yata's abilities.
Totsuka's definition in this area has already been proven to be true.
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Everything has a limit.
As the real Yata no Kagami was burned in a fire and as Itachi himself, the holder of the mirror stated, everything has a weakness and that weakness could not be the type of attack(s) but the power of said attacks.
Black Wolf
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My point is that there are countless other databook entries that also use absolute terms, and you giving the Yata Mirror priority over other techniques is pure and uncensored bias at its finest.
If Raikiri cuts through "anything," then that would include Yata Mirror as well, since it is within the the Narutoverse and thus part of what defines "anything." If Chou Odama Rasengan swallows "everything," it would include the Yata Mirror as well, since it is part of that "everything."
you don't know it as it was never stated so it is just assumption.
My assumption has at least some theory that Juubi as begining of chakra is source of everything, that back up my opinion that Yata Mirror chakra as well...
So sorry but until Kishi prove me wrong...
You can't deny possibility of me being right
Susanoo and it's weapons are made up of chakra. Only an Itachi fan would attempt to argue otherwise. When it states the Yata mirror is "spiritual" with no physical form, it means it's a jutsu. Jutsu don't exist the same way a physical weapon would.