Serious Scientific ??? Re: Genetics and Homosexuality.(serious responses only plz)

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Hello NB users,

Let me start off by saying that I am in no way shape or form disrespecting or "passing judgement" on the sexuality of any one, what you like and who you do is really none of my business or my concern.
I am however, in a state of confusion as to how the justification of genetics works in this case. I do understand a lot about science and genetics and personal choices and the feeling of un-acceptance. I do not see how the issue of "sexuality"(the preference of gender in a mate or life-partner) has anything to do with genetics or heredity especially when used as an explanation for sexual preference (which is often the case now-a-days, as people use the "born this way" reasoning). I am also not saying that it is not present from/at birth.

The reason I say this is, according to genetics, or more specifically hereditary genetics and/or traits, states that hereditary genes are passed from parent to offspring and in the case of atavism, it can skip generations. Now, understanding that should mean, that if homosexuality is genetic then there should be previous examples of that trait or gene present in the homosexual's ancestry ( ie: if your homosexual then some where in your ancestry, there should be a homosexual predecessor).

Now I am aware that the problem that immediately arises, is a homosexual ancestor that doesn't show such behavior. Also that throughout time there have been societies that allowed and/or accepted that behavior. so the fact that your grandma or grand dad did not "come out of the closet" has been taken into perspective. That still doesn't totally justify the thought, as science has broken the genome pairing of almost all the creatures on this planet humans included.

So basically if homosexuality is genetic then why hasn't the "homosexual" gene been identified especially when you can see evidence of homosexual coupling in other species on this planet? Also in regards to the genome understanding we can now see how life has evolved from one form to another in the "life" of this planet.

Any way I know that I am not speaking to the top of their field geneticists here but I figured the subject matter would be handled a little better here then just randomly posted on the web. If I receive enough interest in this matter then I may take to a larger platform in the web, who knows I may take it to the press or something. I had to start somewhere.
Anyway what are your thoughts on the genetic position in this case NB users?
 
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I agree. I believe it's just a choice people make.

For instance, me being a Christian isn't genetic. It's my choice.

I'm not saying homosexuality is bad, nor is any other's beleifs. If you want to be gay, be gay. Want to believe in God, believe in him. Want to believe in nothing? God bless you! People should be allowed to believe what they want! :)
 

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I agree. I believe it's just a choice people make.

For instance, me being a Christian isn't genetic. It's my choice.

I'm not saying homosexuality is bad, nor is any other's beleifs. If you want to be gay, be gay. Want to believe in God, believe in him. Want to believe in nothing? God bless you! People should be allowed to believe what they want! :)
You see. This is just terrible for people to think. My choice is not to be gay, I didn't want this. Religion, and sexuality are two different things. You can't compare them.
 

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Actually there has been links to homosexuality and genetics. I did a paper on homosexuality and whether its a sin or if its a choice or natural and even if its an argument of nature of nurture. Homosexuals (guys for this example) then to share similar genes as a women, which makes them very nuturing or caring as well as producing more estrogen than testosterone and visa versa with girls being homosexual. In any case, no its not a choice. I can't just say "OH!, I think Im going to like guys from now on." Because even if i said that, and wanted to, it would still make me uncomfortable or be unnatural FOR ME if I ended with another guy. Just as Homosexuals feel uncomfortable and unnatural when they try to have a relationship with someone of the opposite ***.
 

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I agree. I believe it's just a choice people make.

For instance, me being a Christian isn't genetic. It's my choice.

I'm not saying homosexuality is bad, nor is any other's beleifs. If you want to be gay, be gay. Want to believe in God, believe in him. Want to believe in nothing? God bless you! People should be allowed to believe what they want! :)
Comparing religion and sexuality is quite .... Wrong .___. There is no comparison to be found
 
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In reality the instances of Homosexual interaction amounst animals were isolated insidence like a mother eating her offspring this was done by a homosexual scientist (the study). And even if it were identified to be normal, So would canabalism, rape, eating of infants, animals are not the same as higher level thinking humans. Just wanted to say that.
 

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In reality the instances of Homosexual interaction amounst animals were isolated insidence like a mother eating her offspring this was done by a homosexual scientist (the study). And even if it were identified to be normal, So would canabalism, rape, eating of infants, animals are not the same as higher level thinking humans. Just wanted to say that.
Once again, people comparing homosexuality to; rape, murder, beasiality. Honey, "I don't do any of that sh*t."
 

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You see, when people that being gay is a choice they are implying it is something along the lines of for example: switching a light on or off. Being gay is no more a choice than being a man or a woman. It is there, it exists and cannot be chosen. You are either born straight or born gay.

In reality the instances of Homosexual interaction amounst animals were isolated insidence like a mother eating her offspring this was done by a homosexual scientist (the study). And even if it were identified to be normal, So would canabalism, rape, eating of infants, animals are not the same as higher level thinking humans. Just wanted to say that.
Things aren't born to rape, be cannibals, or eat infants. They have nothing in common with sexual orientation at all. Humans are animals. We have the same instincts regardless of the level of our cognitive process
 
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In reality the instances of Homosexual interaction amounst animals were isolated insidence like a mother eating her offspring this was done by a homosexual scientist (the study). And even if it were identified to be normal, So would canabalism, rape, eating of infants, animals are not the same as higher level thinking humans. Just wanted to say that.
those are choices too....canabalist tribes are canibbles due to beliefs, people rape because they ar just they horrible and desperate and want to be in a situation where they are dominant and in control...unless there is something mentally wrong with them, but even then, those things are wrong by not only societies standards (depending on where you go) but also through human morality (not religious morality, this is different type of morality). being a homosexual is not against basic human morality as it doesnt hurt anyone in anyway, unless you are offended by it, then its only wrong with you because youre uncomfortable with it

Once again, people comparing homosexuality to; rape, murder, beasiality. Honey, "I don't do any of that sh*t."
exactly right my friend
 
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He knows nothing, ignore him.

OP they haven't identified the gene that causes plenty of other things, can you even conprehend the amount of genes we have?
In terms of genes I say it's all about time. We've got a long way to go to cover genetics and we aren't going to be finished any time soon at all. In terms of the genome, I say it is only a matter of time. Biological scientific discoveries are being discovered and analysed daily so it is only a matter of timing on this one for the actual genome to be identified.
 

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Evolutionarily speaking, if homosexuality was solely a genetic trait, scientists would expect the trait to eventually disappear because homosexuals wouldn't be expected to reproduce."
 
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