Zabuza vs Tsunade

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hmm, so i see punching the ground to clear the fog didn't work(which supposed to be)..how about releasing chakra, just like Kakashi did when he first fought Zabuza
Punching the ground wouldn't move the mist. The debris would just shift the mist to flow around it.

That's how the Mist is created. Zabuza infuses the mist with chakra.
 

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Against the water prison we know that she can turn her chakra into electricity and we know she has a lot of chakra and we know she has great chakra control so logically she could electrocute herself and Zabuza and heal herself and leave him screwed.
That's not a good excuse. We haven't seen her use any feasible lightning style ninjutsu.

Also Kakashi the Techniques Secialist of Konoha (with water style and lightning style) did no such thing against Zabuza so to say that she could do that would be a shot in the dark.
 

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Her punches aren't fast enough. The strength only counts when it connects with something. Gais punches were extremely fast when Tsunades aren't fast she has shown no feats in speed.

The mist will stay there.

She can't see Zabuza or hear him, so she can't attack him or defend properly
That's not true. Air pressure keeps going regardless. As a part of my kung fu training I've extinguished candles albeit I'm nowhere near the shaolin's level but if they can do it your telling me Tsunade's punches carry no air pressure.
If Kabuto is fast enough to launch an attack and carry through an attack while she's moving at 9.8 m/s (the gravitational constant) toward the ground and yet she's fast enough to counter attack that person before he can move out of the way I'd call that a speed feat. Or how about how fast Kabuto's hiding like a mole technique works and yet she completely dodged the attack and launched a counter attack using her falling momentum with him barely dodging it. I call those speed feats.
 

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That's not true. Air pressure keeps going regardless. As a part of my kung fu training I've extinguished candles albeit I'm nowhere near the shaolin's level but if they can do it your telling me Tsunade's punches carry no air pressure.
If Kabuto is fast enough to launch an attack and carry through an attack while she's moving at 9.8 m/s (the gravitational constant) toward the ground and yet she's fast enough to counter attack that person before he can move out of the way I'd call that a speed feat. Or how about how fast Kabuto's hiding like a mole technique works and yet she completely dodged the attack and launched a counter attack using her falling momentum with him barely dodging it. I call those speed feats.
The strength of her punch has nothing to do with how much air pressure. The only thing that affects air pressure from a punch is speed. Which she lacks.
 

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That's not a good excuse. We haven't seen her use any feasible lightning style ninjutsu.

Also Kakashi the Techniques Secialist of Konoha (with water style and lightning style) did no such thing against Zabuza so to say that she could do that would be a shot in the dark.
If Kakashi did it he would screw himself and be unable to heal. It'd be the equivalent of C0 for him.
We may not have seen her use one but she hasn't really had a reason to use one either. What we can do is reason on her abilities that we know of. So if she has a huge chakra reserve(enough to heal a village), excellent chakra control, and can turn her chakra into electricity what's stopping her from doing what she did to Kabuto only with a lot more chakra?
 

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If Kakashi did it he would screw himself and be unable to heal. It'd be the equivalent of C0 for him.
We may not have seen her use one but she hasn't really had a reason to use one either. What we can do is reason on her abilities that we know of. So if she has a huge chakra reserve(enough to heal a village), excellent chakra control, and can turn her chakra into electricity what's stopping her from doing what she did to Kabuto only with a lot more chakra?
It's still not enough to base an assumption on. While your in Water Prison Jutsu your not able to move so she can't make hand signs. Lady Tsunade directly stated that she can't self heal with no hand seals so she would be trapped until she drowns to death.
 

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The strength of her punch has nothing to do with how much air pressure. The only thing that affects air pressure from a punch is speed. Which she lacks.
I'll concede that to create air pressure speed is necessary.
But we can't say Tsunade's punches are slow because we've only seen 7 punches, four kicks, one body push, and one Susanoo sword swing. Of those 7 punches, the first was a warning. One was used to break the Susanoo sword. One was used to send a shockwave through a wall. Which leaves 4 punches remaining. Only one of those were dodged. Her four kicks. Have hit half of the time. Her body push connected and the Susanoo sword swing was countered. If she was really that slow, everything would have been dodged.
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and if you look here just one step from Tsunade caused air pressure.
 

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Zabuza throws up the mist, activates silent killing, game over. The only reason Kakashi won was because of his speed, and his Sharingan. Not to mention when the mist was up Kakashi couldn't even keep up with a 3-tomoe, so much so that he had to use his dogs to be able to find him.
 
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I'll concede that to create air pressure speed is necessary.
But we can't say Tsunade's punches are slow because we've only seen 7 punches, four kicks, one body push, and one Susanoo sword swing. Of those 7 punches, the first was a warning. One was used to break the Susanoo sword. One was used to send a shockwave through a wall. Which leaves 4 punches remaining. Only one of those were dodged. Her four kicks. Have hit half of the time. Her body push connected and the Susanoo sword swing was countered. If she was really that slow, everything would have been dodged.
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and if you look here just one step from Tsunade caused air pressure.
Her punches aren't slow, but they aren't fast enough to cause the mist to disperse. You need a lot of air movement to completely dispel mist.

All of those landed hits were against opponents she could see. In this mist not even a 3tomoe sharingan could see Zabuza. Tsunade is blinded.
 
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