Zabuza is underrated - he can 1-hit-KO much of the Narutoverse

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Are you serious?

Zabuza has nothing which can hurt tsunade, zabuza uses hidden mist & tsunade summons katsuyu & covers the battlefield in acid.

What good would that do? The slugs could not be able to see in the dense mist either, only Zabuza has been shown to be able to perfectly fight with hearing alone. Blinded Katsuyu would not know if they're spreading acid on each other or on Tsunade or just wasting it on nothing.
That is, if Tsunade even managed to summon Katsuyu before getting assassinated.

Literally all she has to do to avoid dying is activate her seal whenever she feels like her life is in danger, she'll probably do it whenever she's attacked because her reaction timing isn't bad.

It's pretty sad how easily she can avoid death, I think Tsunade is actually one of the last Kage's he could assassinate.

(This is coming from someone who dislikes her like no other)

Her regenerative abilities, as good as they are, are not instantenous. Her wounds take time to recover. Zabuza wouldn't just strike her, wait for her to recover and only then attempt to strike again. Continuous attacks would overweight even her recovery.
 
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Zabuza fought 3rd mizukage (it was obito) before he escaped from mist village ..
He's high level S-class ninja ..

Zabuza can beat only 3 kages :

1) 4th raikage (he's pathetic with 1 hand) even sasuke beat him
2) gaara (he's kid ) what he can do against experience killer who match up with kakashi beside he doesn't have any tailed beast power.
3) mei (I don't know how did she become a kage lol)


I don't think he can beat other kages but he will give them hard time ..

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Gaara's absolute defense protects him from any harm. Solo's that fodder like a boss. NEXT.

As if Zabuza can keep up with Ay's speed and pierce Raiton armor. NEXT.

Mei fries that nig nog alive. PEACE.
 

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Zabuza fought 3rd mizukage (it was obito) before he escaped from mist village ..
He's high level S-class ninja ..

Zabuza can beat only 3 kages :

1) 4th raikage (he's pathetic with 1 hand) even sasuke beat him
2) gaara (he's kid ) what he can do against experience killer who match up with kakashi beside he doesn't have any tailed beast power.
3) mei (I don't know how did she become a kage lol)


I don't think he can beat other kages but he will give them hard time ..

yeah, he beats guy who broke Susano'o's ribs,...yeah

Mei if in 1 vs 1 can use her Boil which is very OP

yeah, Gaara only defeated 2nd Mizukage, with info, yes, but even so, he does not beat Gaara
 

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Gaara's absolute defense protects him from any harm. Solo's that fodder like a boss.

Gaara's so-called absolute defence was shown not only to be destroyable but also able to be outsped. Genin Lee outsped Gaara's sand and even if Zabuza is not a speed beast, he is still faster than genin Lee.

As if Zabuza can keep up with Ay's speed and pierce Raiton armor. NEXT.

Indeed, I see no way of ration armor being penetrated with anything Zabuza was shown using. I agree on that one, I don't see Zabuza assassinating A.

Mei fries that nig nog alive. PEACE.

No. As opposed to A, Mei has nothing to protect her from Zabuza once the mist is cast. Her only chance would be fighting with hearing, since she probably can do it to some extent (since she uses Hidden Mist jutsu herself) but it's doubtable if she's on Zabuza's level of this skill.
 

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Gaara's so-called absolute defence was shown not only to be destroyable but also able to be outsped. Genin Lee outsped Gaara's sand and even if Zabuza is not a speed beast, he is still faster than genin Lee.



Indeed, I see no way of ration armor being penetrated with anything Zabuza was shown using. I agree on that one, I don't see Zabuza assassinating A.



No. As opposed to A, Mei has nothing to protect her from Zabuza once the mist is cast. Her only chance would be fighting with hearing, since she probably can do it to some extent (since she uses Hidden Mist jutsu herself) but it's doubtable if she's on Zabuza's level of this skill.

Stopped reading at the bold.

Genin Lee going 8 gates is leagues ahead of Zabuza in terms of speed.

And how are you comparing Gaara's defense now to how it was years ago? It's arguably gotten better, much better. Gaara's mom protects him better than Shukaku does.:cool:
 

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Gaara's so-called absolute defence was shown not only to be destroyable but also able to be outsped. Genin Lee outsped Gaara's sand and even if Zabuza is not a speed beast, he is still faster than genin Lee.



Indeed, I see no way of ration armor being penetrated with anything Zabuza was shown using. I agree on that one, I don't see Zabuza assassinating A.



No. As opposed to A, Mei has nothing to protect her from Zabuza once the mist is cast. Her only chance would be fighting with hearing, since she probably can do it to some extent (since she uses Hidden Mist jutsu herself) but it's doubtable if she's on Zabuza's level of this skill.

...Zabuza faster than Genin Lee,...that's a joke

she is MIZUKAGE of course she can see through that mist lol, if even Kakashi could
 
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zabuza is good but he isnt that great to defeat a kage!! Remember Kakashi and 3 genins defeated him...that also Haku was with him!!!
 

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...Zabuza faster than Genin Lee,...that's a joke

she is MIZUKAGE of course she can see through that mist lol, if even Kakashi could

Joke? It's not. Genin Lee was a speed beast for a GENIN, which doesn't mean such speed is not a standard among jonins.
Want proof? At the beginning of Part 2 Kakashi's speed was said to be better than Lee's. Yet Kakashi didn't blitz Zabuza and was not shown to have any actual speed advantage.

Or are you saying now that genin Lee could speedblitz Zabuza?

Genin Lee going 8 gates is leagues ahead of Zabuza in terms of speed.

Genin Lee could never open 8 gates in the first place. Also, opening the gates grant speed relative to your base speed. So if you're slow and open the gates, you're fast. If you're fast and open the gates, you're super fast, etc. So just because he opened the gates doesn't mean he was faster than Zabuza, whose base speed was much higher than Lee, as jonin's speed should have compared to genin.

And how are you comparing Gaara's defense now to how it was years ago? It's arguably gotten better, much better. Gaara's mom protects him better than Shukaku does.

Shukaku never protected Gaara in the first place, Gaara only believed so. It was Gaara's mom all along. And since it's her gift and not his trained ability, I seriously don't think it improves with Gaara's skill improvement. Unless you have any proof of that?
 
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What good would that do? The slugs could not be able to see in the dense mist either, only Zabuza has been shown to be able to perfectly fight with hearing alone. Blinded Katsuyu would not know if they're spreading acid on each other or on Tsunade or just wasting it on nothing.
That is, if Tsunade even managed to summon Katsuyu before getting assassinated.

:| By the time zabuza summons his jutsu, tsunade can summon katsuyu, its trivial, lol

& I suggest you read up a little on katsuyu, she is the game changer here

Being able to split apart & being able to tank pretty much all forms of physical damage, now please tell me how zabuza plans on stopping katsuyu, who can split into smaller slugs to surround the hidden mist & co-ordinate attacks telepathically. Despite katsuyu being a slug she is also extremely fast, if katsuyu can stall for long enough (which is entirely possible as zabuza has no powerful jutsus) then tsunade can enter byakugo to finish him off.

Her regenerative abilities, as good as they are, are not instantenous. Her wounds take time to recover. Zabuza wouldn't just strike her, wait for her to recover and only then attempt to strike again. Continuous attacks would overweight even her recovery.

No, this is so wrong...

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In those three scans you clearly see tsunade get impaled, then she tanks a yasaka magatama & gets smashed to the ground. But what happens? She then proceeds to get up like its nobody's business & she doesnt have a gaping hole through her chest. Instant healing? Instant healing ;).
 

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Yup, and a kunai to the head also is an under estimated one shot.
 

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Gaara's absolute defense protects him from any harm. Solo's that fodder like a boss. NEXT.

As if Zabuza can keep up with Ay's speed and pierce Raiton armor. NEXT.

Mei fries that nig nog alive. PEACE.
You are talking like zabuza will stand and do nothing ??
Gaara is fodder now without tailed beast and review what sand village elders said about him in begging of shuppeden ,
They said we made him kage because he's tailed beast but now without tailed beast he doesn't deserve to be kage..

Gaara is jounin rank ninja at most and deidara beat him like he was nothing.

yeah, he beats guy who broke Susano'o's ribs,...yeah

Mei if in 1 vs 1 can use her Boil which is very OP

yeah, Gaara only defeated 2nd Mizukage, with info, yes, but even so, he does not beat Gaara

Raikage is pathetic and even suigetsu and jugo managed to keep up with him and he didn't break sasunoo , he lost his arm that's it ..

Why comparing zabuza to mei ?? I don't know how did she became kage !!
 

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:| By the time zabuza summons his jutsu, tsunade can summon katsuyu, its trivial, lol

& I suggest you read up a little on katsuyu, she is the game changer here

Being able to split apart & being able to tank pretty much all forms of physical damage, now please tell me how zabuza plans on stopping katsuyu, who can split into smaller slugs to surround the hidden mist & co-ordinate attacks telepathically. Despite katsuyu being a slug she is also extremely fast, if katsuyu can stall for long enough (which is entirely possible as zabuza has no powerful jutsus) then tsunade can enter byakugo to finish him off.

Do you have any proof that Giant Vortex could not deal with Katsuyu? They can't fly, as far as I'm concerned, and how do they plan to avoid that?

Besides, Katsuyu being there doesn't prevent Zabuza from assassinating Tsunade. They might get him later, but with Tsunade dead, the assassination is complete anyway. And Zabuza's escape wouldn't be difficult in the mist.



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In those three scans you clearly see tsunade get impaled, then she tanks a yasaka magatama & gets smashed to the ground. But what happens? She then proceeds to get up like its nobody's business & she doesnt have a gaping hole through her chest. Instant healing? Instant healing ;).

First of all, these injuries were not done to any of Tsunade's vital spots. Second of all, Zabuza would make more hits in shorter period of time. So no, you can't use this as an example to prove your point.
 
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You are talking like zabuza will stand and do nothing ??
Gaara is fodder now without tailed beast and review what sand village elders said about him in begging of shuppeden ,
They said we made him kage because he's tailed beast but now without tailed beast he doesn't deserve to be kage..

Gaara is jounin rank ninja at most and deidara beat him like he was nothing.



Raikage is pathetic and even suigetsu and jugo managed to keep up with him and he didn't break sasunoo , he lost his arm that's it ..

Why comparing zabuza to mei ?? I don't know how did she became kage !!

Gaara fodder? new sig.
 

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Do you have any proof that Giant Vortex could not deal with Katsuyu? They can't fly, as far as I'm concerned, and how do they plan to avoid that?

How do they plan on tanking water? Seriously? You think that suiton will do anything to either of them when tsunade herself can tank katon with her bare hands & katsuyu can tank a CST? :rolleyes:

Besides, Katsuyu being there doesn't prevent Zabuza from assassinating Tsunade. They might get him later, but with Tsunade dead, the assassination is complete anyway. And Zabuza's escape wouldn't be difficult in the mist.

I just showed you how much physical damage tsunade can take, zabuza's puny sword/kunai arent doing anything, in fact tsunade can simply tank zabuza's assassination attempt. & now that she has zabuza right where she wants him, one punch & its GG.


First of all, these injuries were not done to any of Tsunade's vital spots. Second of all, Zabuza make more hits in shorter period of time. So no, you can't use this as an example to prove your point.

Just wow, first of all show me zabuza 's speed, so far you have zero proof...Secondly, tsunade gets impaled & you say that its not vital? Hilarious, regardless if the spot is vital or not it will heal as instantly as you saw there, in byakugo tsunade cant be killed, her vitals cant be torn & no physical harm can come to her. She exclaims that she's fine after punching away multiple fireballs & suffering from what no doubt looks to be 3rd degree burns . Any other normal shinobi would be done for after such a feat, in fact name me 5 ninja who can punch fire...

Its even proven fact that tsunade can heal instantly, she can stimulate the production of cells . The only drawback to this is that she shortens her own life, however this wont affect her because if zabuza comes within striking distance then he will die. :cool:
 

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Zabuzu Simply doesn't make it into top 20/15
 

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Gaara is fodder
Gaara is jounin rank ninja at most

Surpassed the Yondaime Kazekage:
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Considered special to the Nidaime Mizukage even amongst the other Kage:
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Show me any normal jounin being able to survive against this:
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What manga are you reading?
 

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Surpassed the Yondaime Kazekage:
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Considered special to the Nidaime Mizukage even amongst the other Kage:
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Show me any normal jounin being able to survive against this:
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What manga are you reading?

He's simply really ignorant and can't think 10 seconds in front of his face, tis' all.
 

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Surpassed the Yondaime Kazekage:
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Considered special to the Nidaime Mizukage even amongst the other Kage:
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Show me any normal jounin being able to survive against this:
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What manga are you reading?

All kazekages are weak ..
3rd kazekage was killed and through in trash by orochimaru ..

Gaara defeated 2nd mizukage because onoki helped him ..

I don't see gaara can beat jounin like gai for example ..
 

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All kazekages are weak ..
3rd kazekage was killed and through in trash by orochimaru ..

Gaara defeated 2nd mizukage because onoki helped him ..

I don't see gaara can beat jounin like gai for example ..

Gai is someone completely different than Zabuza, this isn't thread Gai vs Gaara
 

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All kazekages are weak ..
3rd kazekage was killed and through in trash by orochimaru ..

Gaara defeated 2nd mizukage because onoki helped him ..

I don't see gaara can beat jounin like gai for example ..

If you read the databook, you would know that all of the Kazekage were assassinated. All of them, including Gaara. This implies a handicap on them, and I would agree with that as Gaara was protecting Sunagakure at the same time fighting an S-rank shinobi. And they are still revered as Kage are they not?

The only people who would defeat the Nidaime Mizukage on their own are as follows:
Obito, Hashirama, Madara, Nagato, Naruto, Kabuto, Sasuke, Tobirama, Itachi, Minato, and Muu. Now that's not a lot of people. Actually, no other Kage would have beaten the Nidaime Mizukage even if there were two of them against him.

Gai has the power to be a Kage, that's why he can beat a Kage. Obvious?

You guys do know Gaara can fly, right? How's Zabuza going to touch him?
 
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