you guys give jiraiya too much credit

Ron Ayeh

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the people who are saying that itachi would win are just fanboys, this is because itachi himself said that j'man could beat him...that proves it
 
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We saw Itachi own pains summoned beasts...lol he was handle the frog soon as he glances with amaterasu cooked frog legs...sage mode takes forever I doubt Itachi even let's him get that far..even if he did...Itachi still beat him..people need to admit a lot of stronger ninja that old man river now..he was strong once kinda like master roshi then bam pass the torch...couldn't even master sage mode...sad old man I forgot his name already..must not be to important...hmmm rip van winkle yeah sounds right
 

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j-man awesome and how did he get his ass kicked by orchimaru if your talking about the sanin one were tsuande and j-man were fighting orchimaru if you can remember that he was drugged by the best medical ninja known to any shinobi and maybe he didn't master sage mode so what his powers were great without it and its pretty hard to master when you think about because even naruto the main character couldn't master it(he still got some frog feature )and he trained 2 top shinobi (nagato and minato) who are definatly in my top 10 strongest shinobi SNM

naruto did master sage mode pa (the lil frog dude) even said he did because naruto doesnt have any frog features except the eyes and thtats normal
 
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Itachi avoided ever truly fighting a leaf shinobi...could of killed kakashi but didnt didn't want to blow his cover duh...Itachi was a good guy and had kisame with him...Itachi only said that to avoid involving kisame...he orders kisame listens...so Itachi didn't want to fight jman..because he was good...as many times as he faced naruto and just wanted to talk he could of snatched him anytime but didn't use ur head ill admit if someone is stronger than Itachi but it sure as hell aight jiraiya
 
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But I will state jiraiya would tea bag oro and tsunade...to me there Is a difference in having someone summon for u than summoning a beast while weak and drugged...which is harder...yeah
 

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dont you guys remember that jiraiya got his ass kicked by orochimaru? he didnt even master sage mode. i read something here that says jman shits on itachi. that thing is mad ridiculous. there's a whole lot of things that i can mention but choose not to. itachi is the best ninja there is since sarutobi and minato (from konoha at least). and no, i'm not a fanboy. if you guys think otherwise, give me your reasons.
i have to agree i mean itachi also gave naruto a special power in the manga 552.
 

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I agree... jiraiya may have done a lot of "Discovery" but still, he isnt a person to give so much credit to.
bt lol :D i love his character he...he..he
 

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Idiots Jiraiya said that when orochimaru was leaving the village, he couldnt stop him. They both were in there late 20's early 30's and they both gotten stronger when the met in battle again but orochimaru had his arm sealed by the 3rd hokage and Jiraiya was drugged by Tsunade and was bearly at 30%. At full power Jiraiya and orochimaru had never fought and that sucks but we can estimate their power throught their fight with other ninjas to see who would win. Jiraiya power is respected by Itachi that cause Itachi and kisame to leave (kisame doesn't trust Itachi since the moment they met and wouldn't leave if he didn't believe) where as Itachi beat orochimaru twice. Akastksi(sp?) where looking for orochimaru to kill him because he knew to much about them and didnt go after Naruto in the 2 1/2 time skip because he was with Jiraiya. All facts from the manga.
 

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J - Man the best, itachi wouldn't win againts him, did you remember what itachi say to kishame, Thats they would die if fight againt J-Man, after the orochimaru's attack to konoha!!
 

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dont you guys remember that jiraiya got his ass kicked by orochimaru? he didnt even master sage mode. i read something here that says jman shits on itachi. that thing is mad ridiculous. there's a whole lot of things that i can mention but choose not to. itachi is the best ninja there is since sarutobi and minato (from konoha at least). and no, i'm not a fanboy. if you guys think otherwise, give me your reasons.


wtf who thinks jman is stronger then itachi should slap himself twice:flaw:
 
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Some people on here see the topic and just come In here guns blazing...lol sad...remember what Itachi said remember what Itachi said lol..once again Itachi was a good guy...avoided the fight on purpose...hmmm glad I'm not dumb
 

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jiriya wud kill oro. he didnt even go sage mode which wud garrantee the win so u cant say he cant bet him. he can beat pain orochimaru cant.
 

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i believe jman ccan beat itachi with no tsukoyoomi. other than tht no.
 

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Let's remember that when Itachi and Kisame first showed up after the Invasion, unless Kishimoto seriously planned all this so far ahead, Itachi and Kisame were still villains. He sought to keep peace, but yet he was more than willing to allow Kisame to cut off Naruto's legs. I also doubt that aside from Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, Kishimoto hadn't come up with all these abilities for the MS.

Jiraiya was supposed to be one of the Legendary 3, basically one of the strongest ninjas in the world. Hence the reason for Itachi's retreat, he knew of Jiraiya's abilities.

Not to say Jiraiya is stronger than Itachi, but he does seem incredibly resourceful. His knowledge and tactics could have - at the time - outdone either Itachi or Kisame. Until Kishi comes out and says it, we'll never know who was truly stronger. If Kishi had indeed planned everything about Itachi even way back when he was supposed to be some kind of monster, then yes, Itachi was stronger and simply feigning retreat in order to prevent needless bloodshed (but then why say nothing against Kisame when he mentioned to cut off Naruto's legs?). If Kishi didn't plan that much back then, perhaps it was just a means to increase the aura of Jiraiya.
 

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i believe jman ccan beat itachi with no tsukoyoomi. other than tht no.

You do know that when Jiraiya is in sage mode he is fused with Ma and Pa toad and they could snap Jiraiya out of a genjutsus the moment he is in one because they're fused together, basically Like how the 8 tails did with bee. Itachi himself said that every jutsus has a weakness and Jiraiya found pain's before he died and past it along to Naruto and the leaf. They're both powerful and smart and can both beat each other under different circumstance. Don't forget that Itachi couldn't beat Nagato without Naruto info on Nagato that he in turn got from Jiraiya.
 

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ITACHI WAS PROTECTING KONOHA, HOW WOULD KILLING THE STRONGEST ALIVE PERSON IN IT (at that time) HELP PROTECTING KONOHA?

+ I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE THAT AFTER PEOPLE HAVE SEEN WHAT ALL CAN ITACHI DO STILL BELIEVE THAT ITACHI WITH KISAME WOULD LOSE TO JIRAYA

(not you govind ;))

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH U !!! i mean ok jiraya is cool and i like is personality but he is not that big deal after all :D
 

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You do know that when Jiraiya is in sage mode he is fused with Ma and Pa toad and they could snap Jiraiya out of a genjutsus the moment he is in one because they're fused together, basically Like how the 8 tails did with bee. Itachi himself said that every jutsus has a weakness and Jiraiya found pain's before he died and past it along to Naruto and the leaf. They're both powerful and smart and can both beat each other under different circumstance. Don't forget that Itachi couldn't beat Nagato without Naruto info on Nagato that he in turn got from Jiraiya.

you can't snap out of tsukuyomi unless your a blood relative. that's why sasuke was able to escape itachi's tsukuyomi and even if i'm wrong and ma and pa somehow magically release the genjutsu on him, he would still suffer days of torture in the genjutsu due to itachi capable of manipulating space/time with it.
 
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lol sage mode takes jman forever and on top of that what technique can jiraiya use to against susanoo and how will he avoid amaterasu lol...don't say summoning cause Itachi burned down 2 or 3 of nagatos...the huge eight headed serpent blast or kirin could go threw it so what would jiraiya use lol oil and fire...a fiant rasengan lol fail jman isn't that great I agree all day...kakashi might as well be a sannin..that word is over rated...naruto and sasuke are awesomnnin then lol if oro is a sannin and got owned by Itachi...what's Itachi...badassannin that's what...let jman go yall he did his job..funny character ill miss hi....haha nah
 
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Don't forget this....in the early episodes of naruto shi.....they formed a 8 man team just to try and bring Itachi in lol..scary
 
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