you guys give jiraiya too much credit

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Itachi(someone that has been using amateratsu way more than sasuke) said every jutsu has a weakness...here watch this fight that shows raikage dodging amateratsu and stop putting up things till you get your facts straight watch this clip from 1:47 to 1:54


i told you, jiraiya doesnt have that mobility.
 

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think that's enough though? susano is going to shatter that if it isnt

know one knows what kind of jutsu j-man and plus j-man has toad summonings so they can help him out?
 

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This is ridiculous.

Jiraiya got his ass kicked by Orochimaru when? Are you referring to the Sannin battle with Tsunade? Jiraiya didn't get his ass kicked whatsoever. He couldn't mold his chakra properly because of Tsunade's drug.

Jiraiya is absolutely on Itachi's level. Itachi states himself to Kisame that if they fought Jiraiya, the best case scenario for them would be killing him but both dying along with them. If you're going to counter me by saying, "the only reason Itachi said that was to prevent the capture of Naruto", then why did they bother confronting Naruto later that day in the hotel? Itachi could have easily gave Kisame any other reason in order to delay Naruto's capture. The only thing I'll give you is that if they fought to the death it would end with both of them dead. Even Pain said Jiraiya could have defeated him if he had only known his secret. That gives testament to Jiraiya's strength.

Granted, Naruto mastered Sage Mode above that of Jiraiya, but that means Jiraiya is crap? You kid have no idea what you are talking about. There were dozens of stone statues which means Sage Mode isn't something easy to learn. Beyond that, only people with considerably large chakra reserves can have a chance at Sage Mode because it's required in order to balance the sheer amount of natural energy. Fukasaku states this.
 

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This is ridiculous.

Jiraiya got his ass kicked by Orochimaru when? Are you referring to the Sannin battle with Tsunade? Jiraiya didn't get his ass kicked whatsoever. He couldn't mold his chakra properly because of Tsunade's drug.

Jiraiya is absolutely on Itachi's level. Itachi states himself to Kisame that if they fought Jiraiya, the best case scenario for them would be killing him but both dying along with them. If you're going to counter me by saying, "the only reason Itachi said that was to prevent the capture of Naruto", then why did they bother confronting Naruto later that day in the hotel? Itachi could have easily gave Kisame any other reason in order to delay Naruto's capture. The only thing I'll give you is that if they fought to the death it would end with both of them dead. Even Pain said Jiraiya could have defeated him if he had only known his secret. That gives testament to Jiraiya's strength.

Granted, Naruto mastered Sage Mode above that of Jiraiya, but that means Jiraiya is crap? You kid have no idea what you are talking about. There were dozens of stone statues which means Sage Mode isn't something easy to learn. Beyond that, only people with considerably large chakra reserves can have a chance at Sage Mode because it's required in order to balance the sheer amount of natural energy. Fukasaku states this.


when will you people ever realize that i didn't say jiraiya was crap. i just said people give him way too much credit. you kiddin me? jiraiya's good. but not as good as people say he is. he's like 60 years old. he's supposed to be shittin on people because knowledge of the game is what wins games.
 

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i told you, jiraiya doesnt have that mobility.

Actually jmans mobility in sage mode is beyond that of a human because he turns his hands a feet into frog like hands and feet. Go watch the fight again pain and you will see what I'm talking about. But if your talking about mobility outside of sage mode then he will just block it. With summons. And scrolls.
 

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Actually jmans mobility in sage mode is beyond that of a human because he turns his hands a feet into frog like hands and feet. Go watch the fight again pain and you will see what I'm talking about. But if your talking about mobility outside of sage mode then he will just block it. With summons. And scrolls.

think that's enough to dodge amaterasu though? raiton armor's the only jutsu to ever dodge it. and i think it consumes a helluva lot of chakra. i don't think it bothers A though if it consumes chakra. dude is super human
 

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Jmans monility is fine. look at the Pain fight again (manga) he shows that he is fast in sage mode, Maybe enough to dodge amaterasu maybe not,

Also jman has unlimited sage chakra, so chakra isent problem for him

As i have said befor drop the itachi thing, asoon as someone brings his god dam name up the fanbois start crying a make this thread about itachi U_U
 

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Jmans monility is fine. look at the Pain fight again (manga) he shows that he is fast in sage mode, Maybe enough to dodge amaterasu maybe not,

Also jman has unlimited sage chakra, so chakra isent problem for him

As i have said befor drop the itachi thing, asoon as someone brings his god dam name up the fanbois start crying a make this thread about itachi U_U

it's not about the chakra, it's about the raiton armor bitch. can jiraiya do raiton armor? he needs to have like a clone so the amaterasu can hit something. and if jiraiya can dodge that shit without raiton armor, then we might as well name him faster than A. because A will dodge that if he can. IF HE CAN. :flaw:
 

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ITACHI WAS PROTECTING KONOHA, HOW WOULD KILLING THE STRONGEST ALIVE PERSON IN IT (at that time) HELP PROTECTING KONOHA?

+ I STILL CANNOT BELIEVE THAT AFTER PEOPLE HAVE SEEN WHAT ALL CAN ITACHI DO STILL BELIEVE THAT ITACHI WITH KISAME WOULD LOSE TO JIRAYA

(not you govind ;))

Hmm, do you remember what Jiraiya can do? Itachi just looks strong because his 3 MS techniques are very powerful. Jiraiya has a huge variety of jutsu that together far fAR exceeds Itachi's MS. Sage mode might not even be required for Itachi. But for both Itachi and Kisame, Sage mode is probably required lol.

Listen dude, I'm a huge Jiraiya fan, judging by my avatar and sig, that's probably no surprise. But seriously, Jiraiya, like Hiruzen, Minato and so many others, was a "true" shinobi. The number/power of your jutsu isn't what makes you strong bro. Just read my signature comment and you should understand. And that post is literally why Naruto, Jiraiya, Minato, Lee and a bunch of others are really the most powerful.:)

The guts to never give up
 
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this is ridiculous.

Jiraiya got his ass kicked by orochimaru when? Are you referring to the sannin battle with tsunade? Jiraiya didn't get his ass kicked whatsoever. He couldn't mold his chakra properly because of tsunade's drug.

Jiraiya is absolutely on itachi's level. Itachi states himself to kisame that if they fought jiraiya, the best case scenario for them would be killing him but both dying along with them. If you're going to counter me by saying, "the only reason itachi said that was to prevent the capture of naruto", then why did they bother confronting naruto later that day in the hotel? Itachi could have easily gave kisame any other reason in order to delay naruto's capture. The only thing i'll give you is that if they fought to the death it would end with both of them dead. Even pain said jiraiya could have defeated him if he had only known his secret. That gives testament to jiraiya's strength.

Granted, naruto mastered sage mode above that of jiraiya, but that means jiraiya is crap? You kid have no idea what you are talking about. There were dozens of stone statues which means sage mode isn't something easy to learn. Beyond that, only people with considerably large chakra reserves can have a chance at sage mode because it's required in order to balance the sheer amount of natural energy. Fukasaku states this.

everyone needs to read this post!!!
 

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Jiraiya forever!!! Orochimaru and Itachi bend to his will!!!
 

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WHAT? you're retarded beyond belief :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:

oh yeah about your jaraiya not having mobility theory sasuke outran amateratsu when he was fighting itachi :p go watch that and im sure jaraiya is a lot faster than sasuke was then......
 

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JMAN IS ULTIMATELY STRONG but is not at itachi's level.
thats all.
 
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