[VS] Yonko BlackBeard VS Akainu , Kizaru and Fujitora

[Light up the Darkness]

Admirals curb stomp BB 3v1. Akainu has a good chance of killing B.B. by himself

Explain how he can kill BB by himself when he didn't kill WB who has 1 DF and was knocked down ?

 

[Sakazuki]

Explain how he can kill BB by himself when he didn't kill WB who has 1 DF and was knocked down ?

Akainu is the one that killed whitebeard basically. He was gonna die from akainus wounds regardless

 

[Edogawa]

i will use your logic against you ,
why akainu didn't do nothing against BB when he was destroying the marineford ? ​

Cause he was chasing Luffy.

also other point , why akainu was knocked down because of one hit only from WB DF ?

Scans?

BB Yami Yami DF or darkness fruit is a counter and plays a big factor against any DF user

Yet he still ran away from Akainu.

adding Gura Gura no Mi DF is an overkill , thats why akainu was knocked down from an old sick man

Akainu had dealt with the Gura DF before and defeated WB, who is a superior user than BB, so this is nothing new for him, hence why BB ran away.

how can akainu beat BB when he owns these Two OP Devil fruits ?

-Far stronger Haki. (don't recall Haki feats from BB)

-Far superior physical capabilities eg. durability, physical strength etc.

-An experience from fighting and defeating the previous Gura Gura DF holder and one who is superior at that.

-BB ran away from Akainu when he had his crew.

Any of the admirals beat him.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Explain how he can kill BB by himself when he didn't kill WB who has 1 DF and was knocked down ?

He wasn’t ko’d, he only fell into the pit. I’ll take BB’s words over yours when he said he don’t want no problems with Akainu. Akainu would son pre time skip BB. Probably beats B.B. at the moment too until B.B. faces against Luffy. Only person in the world superior to Akainu right now is possibly Kaido

 

[arv993]

He wasn’t ko’d, he only fell into the pit. I’ll take BB’s words over yours when he said he don’t want no problems with Akainu. Akainu would son pre time skip BB. Probably beats B.B. at the moment too until B.B. faces against Luffy. Only person in the world superior to Akainu right now is possibly Kaido

Bb running is such a bs way to hype Akainu. The dude ran away from cp0. He is an opportunist, he only came for wb after he fought a war. And this is post skip B.B. not preskip so him being above an Akainu is highly likely. Akainu has every advantage in the fight against WB but still couldn’t outright kill him, any yonko would have won that battle decisively.

 

[Sakazuki]

Bb running is such a bs way to hype Akainu. The dude ran away from cp0. He is an opportunist, he only came for wb after he fought a war. And this is post skip B.B. not preskip so him being above an Akainu is highly likely. Akainu has every advantage in the fight against WB but still couldn’t outright kill him, any yonko would have won that battle decisively.

Yeah. Dont see big mom, or black beard , or Whitebeard beating akainu. I think akainu will shut up all the doubters soon enough.

And akainu didnt have every advantage, he was blindsiided by the strongest attack weve seen in all of one piece and was still able to basically kill Whitebeard. If no one at all fought with whitebeard after akainu went underground to get luffy, he still wouldve died

He didnt have the advantage as he couldnt go all out as he had to protect marine fords hq. Or he would've turned the entire island into a lava field

 

[Lord Tywin]

Bb running is such a bs way to hype Akainu. The dude ran away from cp0. He is an opportunist, he only came for wb after he fought a war. And this is post skip B.B. not preskip so him being above an Akainu is highly likely. Akainu has every advantage in the fight against WB but still couldn’t outright kill him, any yonko would have won that battle decisively.

What? If B.B. could have killed Akainu he would have. One less opponent to worry about later on. It’s fact that B.B. and his entire crew ran from Akainu and couldn’t even manage to steal the ship Akainu was and and preferred to sail into new world on a raft. Akainu took the hardest shots from WB and came back up to face WB commanders. It’s fanfiction to say every yonko would win against Akainu decisively. It’s based on nothing. Portrayal sees admirals as equals to the yonkos themselves, as seen with the admirals being untouched during the entire war with minor inconveniences from the commanders. WB only landed a sneak attack and lost half of his face trying to knock Akainu out, which didn’t happen as Akainu was only without a foot hold. The only Yonko above Akainu is Kaido supported by Oda.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Yeah. Dont see big mom, or black beard , or Whitebeard beating akainu. I think akainu will shut up all the doubters soon enough.

And akainu didnt have every advantage, he was blindsiided by the strongest attack weve seen in all of one piece and was still able to basically kill Whitebeard. If no one at all fought with whitebeard after akainu went underground to get luffy, he still wouldve died

He didnt have the advantage as he couldnt go all out as he had to protect marine fords hq. Or he would've turned the entire island into a lava field

If an Admiral can beat any Yonko one on one than what's the point of having the Shichibukai as well? For that matter if the 3 Admirals together could take out a Yonko and their crew on their own why are there pirates at all?

 

[Sakazuki]

If an Admiral can beat any Yonko one on one than what's the point of having the Shichibukai as well? For that matter if the 3 Admirals together could take out a Yonko and their crew on their own why are there pirates at all?

Not all admirals are the same strength and not all yonkos are. I see akainu beating big mom... I don't see fuji doing that though.i dont get where you guys get that all yonkos or all admirals are the same strength.


And the admirals and warlords = ALL yonkos not just one
Thats like saying "if all yonkos can beat all admirals one on onr what's the point in having commanders as well" lmao

 

[Punk Hazard]

If an Admiral can beat any Yonko one on one than what's the point of having the Shichibukai as well? For that matter if the 3 Admirals together could take out a Yonko and their crew on their own why are there pirates at all?

Because the World Government isn’t going for a tie with the Yonko? They can’t just wipe them out as it stands because doing so would bring utter chaos for a multitude of reasons, but they can’t exactly share the world evenly with them either. It’s the same reason they brought in the Shichibukai in MF, they’re going for advantages, not a fair fight.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Not all admirals are the same strength and not all yonkos are. I see akainu beating big mom... I don't see fuji doing that though.i dont get where you guys get that all yonkos or all admirals are the same strength.


And the admirals and warlords = ALL yonkos not just one
Thats like saying "if all yonkos can beat all admirals one on onr what's the point in having commanders as well" lmao

So what would be the point of them if you could beat your opponents strongest fighter? If you can beat your enemies boss, you're gonna be able to beat them, WB's not gonna beat Kizaru then lose to Coby.

Because the World Government isn’t going for a tie with the Yonko? They can’t just wipe them out as it stands because doing so would bring utter chaos for a multitude of reasons, but they can’t exactly share the world evenly with them either. It’s the same reason they brought in the Shichibukai in MF, they’re going for advantages, not a fair fight.

But it wouldn't bring utter chaos if they were strong enough to wipe out the strongest pirate crews, they'd have an iron hand on authority if they were able to do this, the answer is they can't. 3 Admirals vs a Yonkou crew would result in a lot of heavy losses for both sides.

If one Admiral can kill any one Yonko as some have said/implied than 3 against 1 means a wipe for the WG and 1 less Yonko. Now if that's the case why wouldn't they wipe out all the Yonko?

If the 3 Admirals vs a single yonko crew was a guarantee then there'd be no pirates who could stand against the WG.

 

[Punk Hazard]

So what would be the point of them if you could beat your opponents strongest fighter? If you can beat your enemies boss, you're gonna be able to beat them, WB's not gonna beat Kizaru then lose to Coby.



But it wouldn't bring utter chaos if they were strong enough to wipe out the strongest pirate crews, they'd have an iron hand on authority if they were able to do this, the answer is they can't. 3 Admirals vs a Yonkou crew would result in a lot of heavy losses for both sides.

If one Admiral can kill any one Yonko as some have said/implied than 3 against 1 means a wipe for the WG and 1 less Yonko. Now if that's the case why wouldn't they wipe out all the Yonko?

If the 3 Admirals vs a single yonko crew was a guarantee then there'd be no pirates who could stand against the WG.

You're half-correct on pretty much all of these points. They can't because it'd be impractical due to all of the chaos that would surround such an endeavor.

For one thing, let's say they decide to wrangle up all of the Admirals and go after the Yonko. For one thing, two of the Emperors don't even have a steady base. Shanks is a complete mystery to most of the world, and, like Teach, he just wanders around. So all three Admirals are going to leave their posts to pursue the Emperors? Leaving their HQ vulnerable to other pirate attacks? Because they're going to be taking a formidable force with them.

Speaking of a formidable force, the Marines, with planning, were only able to gather about 100,000 Marines IIRC in time for Marineford. The forces they'd have to amass to take down every single Emperor would leave the world vulnerable to the thousands, if not millions, or other pirates crawling all over the world.

Thirdly, two of the Emperors have their main bases on islands with large civilian populations. Are the protectors of the citizens supposed to just roll up waging war where they live? It's not like they can request that the Emperors evacuate their islands for battle.

Fourthly, we've seen what happens when they wipe out one Emperor. Chaos ensued as the power vacuum became filled by other pirates. And it's not like the WG will have many Marines to spare to control those aiming to fill the vacuums from Emperors falling.

Fifthly, this argument on your end is a fallacy. Three Admirals being able to defeat one Emperor does not mean they can take down four of them. This is like saying "I know you can't lift 100 pounds because you can't lift 400 pounds." They can sweep one Emperor, but will lose considerable forces doing so. So the next one will have the Marines going at less power, which means a harder victory, but a victory nonetheless. And the third will be even harder, with a slimmer chance of victory. By the time they get to the Fourth and final Emperor remaining, they'll lose enough forces that it will be a toss-up. So yes, the Marines can't just go wipe out all four Emperors, but as I said in the beginning of this section, it's a fallacy to say that means they can't wipe one.

 

[chopstickchakra]

You're half-correct on pretty much all of these points. They can't because it'd be impractical due to all of the chaos that would surround such an endeavor.

For one thing, let's say they decide to wrangle up all of the Admirals and go after the Yonko. For one thing, two of the Emperors don't even have a steady base. Shanks is a complete mystery to most of the world, and, like Teach, he just wanders around. So all three Admirals are going to leave their posts to pursue the Emperors? Leaving their HQ vulnerable to other pirate attacks? Because they're going to be taking a formidable force with them.

Speaking of a formidable force, the Marines, with planning, were only able to gather about 100,000 Marines IIRC in time for Marineford. The forces they'd have to amass to take down every single Emperor would leave the world vulnerable to the thousands, if not millions, or other pirates crawling all over the world.

Thirdly, two of the Emperors have their main bases on islands with large civilian populations. Are the protectors of the citizens supposed to just roll up waging war where they live? It's not like they can request that the Emperors evacuate their islands for battle.

Fourthly, we've seen what happens when they wipe out one Emperor. Chaos ensued as the power vacuum became filled by other pirates. And it's not like the WG will have many Marines to spare to control those aiming to fill the vacuums from Emperors falling.

Fifthly, this argument on your end is a fallacy. Three Admirals being able to defeat one Emperor does not mean they can take down four of them. This is like saying "I know you can't lift 100 pounds because you can't lift 400 pounds." They can sweep one Emperor, but will lose considerable forces doing so. So the next one will have the Marines going at less power, which means a harder victory, but a victory nonetheless. And the third will be even harder, with a slimmer chance of victory. By the time they get to the Fourth and final Emperor remaining, they'll lose enough forces that it will be a toss-up. So yes, the Marines can't just go wipe out all four Emperors, but as I said in the beginning of this section, it's a fallacy to say that means they can't wipe one.

It was a satirical point to those who say Akainu(or any admiral) could beat any Yonko captain 1v1, if that were the case all the WG would need to send is Akainu for the captain and Aokiji&Kizaru for the crew and they'd wipe out a Yonkou crew which means they should be able to crush all dissent easily. The WG could eliminate a Yonko and crew but it would take a heavy loss(probably one of the admirals imo) on their end, this we agree on.

People are acting like Akainu alone could take out BM or WB and don't give me that he took him out on his own at MF because we both know the biggest contributor to WB's death was his illness.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

It was a satirical point to those who say Akainu(or any admiral) could beat any Yonko captain 1v1, if that were the case all the WG would need to send is Akainu for the captain and Aokiji&Kizaru for the crew and they'd wipe out a Yonkou crew which means they should be able to crush all dissent easily. The WG could eliminate a Yonko and crew but it would take a heavy loss(probably one of the admirals imo) on their end, this we agree on.

People are acting like Akainu alone could take out BM or WB and don't give me that he took him out on his own at MF because we both know the biggest contributor to WB's death was his illness.

And the fact that he was missing half of his head.

 

[Sakazuki]

And the fact that he was missing half of his head.

With a hole through his heart and abdomen lmao guess they didnt see all that

 

[Sakazuki]

It was a satirical point to those who say Akainu(or any admiral) could beat any Yonko captain 1v1, if that were the case all the WG would need to send is Akainu for the captain and Aokiji&Kizaru for the crew and they'd wipe out a Yonkou crew which means they should be able to crush all dissent easily. The WG could eliminate a Yonko and crew but it would take a heavy loss(probably one of the admirals imo) on their end, this we agree on.

People are acting like Akainu alone could take out BM or WB and don't give me that he took him out on his own at MF because we both know the biggest contributor to WB's death was his illness.

I do think the three admirals alone can wipe out a yonko crew with one being a definite kill.

But add warlords. And you can make a yonko power crew with the marines.

Akainu as captain
Doffy
Kuma
Law as commanders
Vice admirals and rear admirals as crew

 

[chopstickchakra]

And the fact that he was missing half of his head.

With a hole through his heart and abdomen lmao guess they didnt see all that

All of which is a result of his ailing health during the battle, Akainu didn't get both of those chances all on his own. So.....? And how much more did WB do after the head shot again?

I do think the three admirals alone can wipe out a yonko crew with one being a definite kill.

But add warlords. And you can make a yonko power crew with the marines.

Akainu as captain
Doffy
Kuma
Law as commanders
Vice admirals and rear admirals as crew

Guy, if Akainu, Kizaru and Aokiji could go and wipe out any one Yonko and crew while leaving Garp and Shichibukai etc left to defend other tasks then what's stopping them from ending piracy?

You take out 1 and replace an admiral with Fujitora. Now you recover for a bit then take down another, replace one admiral with green bull. Rest, take one more down, now you have two admirals and one yonko and crew left. Now, even assuming they can't find a new admiral(even though we've seen they can, twice) they go in with the two remaining admirals the fleet admiral and the shichibukai to take out the last remaining yonko. No other pirate left is strong enough to stand up to them and all remaining pirates could systematically be wiped out or captured.

At MF the WB commanders didn't get a chance to team up much because of the numbers, if the 3 of them went alone they'd be dealing with multiple commanders at once. BM's crew. Akainu would have to fight BM. Aokiji and Kizaru would each be fighting at least 2 Sweet Commanders(or generals or whatever they're called) Kizaru vs Dogtooth and Smoothie, Dogtooth's awakening can slow light man down. Aokiji vs Cracker and Snack. Plus the entire rest of the crew. By the time they made it through BM's crew they'd be in pretty rough shape. I don't see it. That's why there's back up, VA'sm shichibukai, grunts etc.

 

[Sakazuki]

All of which is a result of his ailing health during the battle, Akainu didn't get both of those chances all on his own. So.....? And how much more did WB do after the head shot again?

Okay so get this. Oda said whitebeards destructive power wasn't decreased ... But his speed was, and so was his observation haki. ... (He had to still have armament haki as he hit akainu.. But because we couldn't see the color of it yet.. We dont know if he used it on his face/stomach when hit) i just don't see why he wouldn't have.

Okay. So if any thing Whitebeard maybe could've dodged more of those hits . that was basically the difference. Yes he had a heart attack. But that evens out.

He blindsided akainu with his hit.
Akainu hit him while he was having a heart attack

Okay now akainu matched whitebeards quake with a lava fist. I dont think anyone realizes how big of a feat that is. He literally matched the worlds strongest man in the world in terms of strength.

A punch that strong of lava is beast he literally ripped whitebeards head off in a flash.. Could he have dodged that when he was younger? We will never know but at that point there no matter what happened afterwards akainu killed Whitebeard. Younger or not, sick or not

 

[Punk Hazard]

“Bro if you can lift 100 pounds, why can’t you lift every single weight in the gym?”

 

[chopstickchakra]

“Bro if you can lift 100 pounds, why can’t you lift every single weight in the gym?”

not even close to an accurate analogy, but keep using it, you seem to like it.