Yata Mirror Grossly Underated- HardCounter to Dust Release

[Owarij]

Good thread bro. But since sasuke has itachi's eyes does that mean he gets the totska blade and yata mirror?

We've seen his full susanno, and he still has his amaterasu bow arrow stuff, so doubtful

 

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[The Only Shinobi]

I wonder if sasukes new powers or when itachi head bumb with sasuke if he gave him a way to get the weapons at least one

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Dam!
And people thought Itachi couldnt get any stronger

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Good thread bro. But since sasuke has itachi's eyes does that mean he gets the totska blade and yata mirror?

That doesnt make sense
His eyes arent connecting to his weapons

 

[Derek1st]

Here is something people simply don't understand. Some people say "Its in the manga so if you disagree, then you disagree with kishi" and others say "Oh that character said it but they don't know what they are talking about". For crying out loud people, you have to pay attention to the context. So far, gaara, sasuke, orochimaru, itachi, and the third raikage have boasted techniques that are "the ultimate defense". Obviously not all of them are right. When kabuto says that the edo tensei is the "strongest most unbeatable jutsu in the ninja world", he is hyping his OWN technique. This situation is different. Let me ask you something, why do you think that kishi even made zetsu watch that fight and commentate? Because he is a source of information for during the fight. Its like a sports commentator giving you unbiased facts during a game. His sole purpose in the plot was to say that the yata mirror is invincible and that kirin is literally fast as lightning. I'm not the biggest itachi fan, and i'm not fond of sasuke, but these are actual "manga facts". There sole purpose for being in the manga was to inform the readers that this actually IS the ultimate defense. Now i'm not saying that theres no way to speed blitz itachi in this form or anything, but i do believe that NO traditional attack (no matter how intense the magnitude of the force) will penetrate the yata mirror. If you agree/disagree, please inbox me or leave a comment

 

[Owarij]

Preach it good sir!^

 

[The Only Shinobi]

I ment to say if he gave him the know how or how he passed the Ameterasu

 

[wizzyguy]

i agree.

itachi with these weapons is unstoppable.

 

[FizzyDrink]

i agree.

itachi with these weapons is unstoppable.

Unstoppable? No. Very powerful? Yes.

 

[The Only Shinobi]

At this the only person i think wouldve beat itachi would be Madara Edo only bc he can control the land anyone else would need the same ability these weapons an itachi brain make him always top ten in all of naruto, meaning even with dead ones counting

 

[Darkakatsuki]

We all know of the two legendary spiritual weapons that caused Black zetsu to consider Itachi an Invincible force...

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Hyperbole? Yes, But there is truth to his words...First one must understand what a Spirtual weapon is... Answer? Noone knows.. according to zetsu it's a supernatural item.... Databook implies noone really know how or when exactly they appeared.. but the legends have been passed down for years

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What should be noted is that is has NO true phyiscal form, meaning these weapons have no true shape, and could essentially become what shape or size the user wishes... They way we see them now is at a size fit for susanno, but when these weapons were found by Itachi, they wouldn't have been large, they could have been anything, maybe even the normal size of a katana and shield..

If you don't believe what i'm saying, Of course , I have proof , often overlooked

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Here you see how yatta mirror is, a flat shield, a bit bigger than Itachi, but still smaller than susanno itself..


Sasuke then throws explosive kunai to cause and explosion

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You can no see the shield has grown, as the head of susanno is no longer higher in the air

specifically talking about this

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You also should note the sfx showing the mirror was shrinking after the attack..


Next feat of this? pretty obvious

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If you don't see it

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You clearly see it extended again, covering more in the back of itachi, which is not how it originally looked, considering its flat


Now I want you to pay CLOSE attention , to the last two pictures I posted, and realize that for this attack, Yata mirror has changed size and shape, and is now fully covering Susanno....

This means that no matter WHAT attack comes at Itachi, Yata mirror can Change not only its ELEMENTS, but its ATTRIBUTES , to deflect it.....

The databook even says this

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Note that it changes its attributes and properties..


You should also be aware that yata mirror doesn't simply "block' all attacks.. It REFLECTS.. All attacks.. as stated like 500 times in the manga and databook..





MUU - Onooki

People, alot of people , have been putting Muu over Itachi simply because Jinton is a "360" thing.... they claim, that yata mirror and its frontward defence would not at all protect Itachi from the molecule disintegration..
Bullocks..

As Ive shown before, ANY incoming attack, would be countered by the mirror and reflected... even if yata mirror has to stretch in a 360 manner to do so , similar to what happened here

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This isnt solely for Jinton....Any incoming taijutsu attack will be countered... yata mirror repelled Sasuke's and his kusunagi thrust....
People claim that A would be able to go behind yata mirror and attack.. Once again, this isn't a legendary spirtual item for crap and giggles..Like gaara's sand, the yata mirror protects the user from ANY attack



But how far can yata mirror really go?
Its not exactly clear, the databook mostly speaks of its impervious fortitude when pitted against jutsu

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Material

Astral

Physical

and Ninjutsu

What I want you to focus on is the two bolded

as·tral
/ˈastrəl/
Adjective
Of or relating to a supposed nonphysical realm of existence in which the physical human body is said to have a counterpart.
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what? : o, Databook implies that Yata mirror would even defend against non physical dimension related attacks? Attacks like Long ranged Kamui?

....That my friends is up to you to see and consider

Grossly underated spiritual items

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Another thing everyone should note is the sheer speed that the shape manipulation happens... The mirror moves from its small state to incredibly large withing milliseconds of the attack actually hitting

Inb4 Bogard, minator94

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Soloking solos

Still can't defend against FTG, as it is not something that one can reflect. Also, while there is no evidence that Itachi consciously controls the shape or the area that the mirror covers, there is also no evidence that it acts on it's own simply by being in Itachi's possession. Also, does this weapon not consume chakra? If so, is it's shize not proportional to how much chakra Itachi channels into it? In which case, wouldn't people saying that Minato/Raikage/Night Guy/Tobirama etc could speed blitz him from behind have a case? As Itachi's reaction time (in terms of channelling more chakra to get it to cover all around) would be the determining factor in whether it can protect him from behind in time or not? Even if you disgard that theory as speculation and say that the Yata acts on it's own without Itachi consciously controlling it or channeling more chakra to it, the Yata would still have to cover all around in the split second it takes for those fast guys to travel around him. I doubt the yata is faster than instant (FTG) in that respect, or even faster than the raikage or Guy.

 

[ShinjuMadara]

Nice analysis, I don't know if it can defend against Kamui though...

 

[Kamui Sama]

lel dat necro.

If people want to go so technical, ftg and kamui don't have to be considered attacks.

 

[BlackFlame44]

Believe in da hype

 

[Multiply]

This thread is 5 months old. Why bring it back up?

 

[Agron92]

Here is something people simply don't understand. Some people say "Its in the manga so if you disagree, then you disagree with kishi" and others say "Oh that character said it but they don't know what they are talking about". For crying out loud people, you have to pay attention to the context. So far, gaara, sasuke, orochimaru, itachi, and the third raikage have boasted techniques that are "the ultimate defense". Obviously not all of them are right. When kabuto says that the edo tensei is the "strongest most unbeatable jutsu in the ninja world", he is hyping his OWN technique. This situation is different. Let me ask you something, why do you think that kishi even made zetsu watch that fight and commentate? Because he is a source of information for during the fight. Its like a sports commentator giving you unbiased facts during a game. His sole purpose in the plot was to say that the yata mirror is invincible and that kirin is literally fast as lightning. I'm not the biggest itachi fan, and i'm not fond of sasuke, but these are actual "manga facts". There sole purpose for being in the manga was to inform the readers that this actually IS the ultimate defense. Now i'm not saying that theres no way to speed blitz itachi in this form or anything, but i do believe that NO traditional attack (no matter how intense the magnitude of the force) will penetrate the yata mirror. If you agree/disagree, please inbox me or leave a comment

Agreed. Good summary.
Only weakness is that Itachi would run out of Chakra after a while.

 

[Lariatoo]

Bumping this! We lack proper Itachi thread nowadays that aren't a cesspoll of fanboyism!

 

[Owarij]

Ahh lol, well I guess we can also add the fact that Black zetsu, an entity created by the will of Kaguya Ōtsutsuki , who singlehandeldy shaped shinobi history, and knows fully well the power of a juubi jin etc, still decided to hype the royal items by considering the wielder of both "invincible"


Hyperboles exist, clearly. But a hype coming from an entity that has seen everything to be seen has merit.

 

[Xlad]

Now this is a real Itachi thread.