wtf? Is sasuke actually faster than naruto?
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Jesus christ no one is calling his rinnegan foot speed.
My final stance it's getting late.
No one has seen the full extent of Narutos speed in action with his new powers. No one matches the Juubi Jin Madara in speed besides Gai, Sasuke and Naruto.
Naruto has actually done nothing speed wise that was praise worthy towards<<<< Madara.>>> Fighting Madara head on doesn't make his speed praise worthy. There was no praise, besides from fans.
Sasuke was actually praised and landed hits while Madara has moved at full stamina speed. HE also possess a unknown s/t that seems pretty haxxed. Minato is known for being the fastest ninja and got owned with his s/t. Sasuke managed to hit Madara while he fled at full speed. Sasuke let him get even further because of not knowing the radius of his jutsu. His mistake...Madara got the head start and 3 paneled his eye back. It was not like a pit stop. Juubi Jin Madara is the fastest.
I'm not trying to downplay anyone but this chapter alone puts Sasuke speed and foot speed >= Naruto.
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You are not downgrading Naruto nor did I mentioned anything about you trying to downgrade him,Here you are actually trying to give a feat to Sasuke that he never actually pulled.Yes,You didn't said that his Rinnegan ability and his foot speed are same but you are using his Rinnegan ability feats to justify Sasuke's foot speed which makes 0 sense.Sasuke only managed to land hits on Madara thanks to his rinnegan's ability and he never actually moved with his foot speed in this chapter exept for the case when he attacked Madara with Chidori and I don't get from where you are pulling Sasuke's foot speed being above Naruto argument.
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I see what you're saying but the footspeed argument stems with his ability to catch up to Madara and cut him. + I'm saying footspeed they are equals. Overall speed Sasuke might have an adv because of s/t
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I think Sasuke using FTG,I always thought of this eversince Hebi Sasuke is introduced......I even thought of the theory & Ideas about Sasuke using FTG(linkless),that is connected through his 3 tomoe sharingan
But you are, you're the one making assumptions here that Sasuke's speed is greater than Naruto's while many including me are telling you not to since nothing in this chapter conclusively proves it.
And why is it most fans always hold to "this chapter alone ....." arguments, it's a manga, you can't judge the entire thing or form conclusive opinions based on individual chapters alone; which is why it's better to adopt a wait and see approach or make theories. Remember, never take a conclusive stance from just one chapter, it inevitably leads to disappointments most times.
Oh and sleep well by the way, time too for me to get back to work
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I'm glad you got my point and as I said b4 it is defenitely not foot speed which is why Iam confident about Naruto being above Sasuke in this regard.It is more like a teleportation jutsu.At first Madara has no idea what Sasuke actually did when Sasuke dodged his attack and stabbed him with his sword.It shouldn't be the case if Sasuke was using his foot speed and Madara even mentioned something like he did more than just simply moving implying that his movements aren't just foot speed based and same goes for what Sasuke did when he caught up with Madara.
I disagree. You are overrating Sasuke speed and it's because you don't understand the differences between Naruto's attack and Sasuke's attack or there situtaion.
When Naruto attacked Madara it was a frontal attack which are the easiest types of attacks to read, evade, or counter. Madara never commented on Naruto' speed, but he surprised by his speed even thought he was focused on him.
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When Sasuke attacked Madara near the end of the chapter Madara was focused on gaining and implanting Kakashi's sharingan, not fighting Sasuke. He did not know Sasuke had followed or attacked him until after he implanted the sharingan and was turning around. Yet, he was not surprised by Sasuke's attack.
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Once again Madara stopped moving after he reached Kakashi's location. In the below scene we see Madara flying towards Kakashi. When Madara reaches Kakashi's location he grabs Kakashi's sharingan as he fly by him. He then implants the sharingan in his eye socket and stops. We don't see him stop because the scene shifts to Sakura and Obito. You also must understand we don't how much time was spent on Sakura and Obito. I know Madara had stopped moving because when the scene shifts back to him we see him standing right Kakashi as Sasuke attacks. If he was still moving then there would have been a greater distance between him and Kakashi.
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sasuke's rinnegan ability is more like trafalgar law's DF from one piece,he can swap himself with any object in the range of the tech)like what he did to his sword and himself when madara was stabbed,it's not physical speed just some sort of teleportation,in term of foot speed naruto is faster.
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Pple are trying way too hard in this thread saying madara wasn't concerned about sasukes attack, that's Bulllshittt right there. He got blitzed, look at his face, he even commented on his speed. If he could defend himself then he would have. Why would madara allow himself to be chopped in half? And point about him stoppin when taking kakashis eye is false, he tool while moving, nxt tin he saw was sasuke next him, that's foots speed right there no denying it. I believe he is on par with naruto or faster than him, its hard denying it when the evidence is there
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How do you know its not foot speed? You have no proof. When sasuke did that ftg move first tym, madara commented on it on how sasuke didn't simply move which implied that indeed sasuke used a sort of jutsu. However second time upon sasuke closing on him, madara then commented that sasuke is stil really fast. If he used the jutsu 2nd time madara would figured that it is whta he did the first time but no he commented on how sasuke was fast meaning sasuke didn't his teleportin jutsu but instead footspeed, with madaras words you can tell. I may be wrong also but u can't conclude that he didn't use foot speed when there's no proof
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I disagree. When sasuke used that teleportaton first time madara said that sasuke didn't jus simply move which implies that sasuke used a sort of jutsu. However second time from the way sasuke was moving closing in on madara you can infer that he was moving on foot backed up by madaras wordds on how sasuke was fast. If he used the teleportation madara would have said stuf like "he's doing what he did before" or something like that. Sasukes movement stance backs this up
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No he didn't, *********** makes it quite clear, madara said "you're quite fast sasuke", meaning sasuke was indeed using footspeed backed up by the fact that madara moved out of sasukes eye range so sasuke culdnt hav used he's rinnegan tech, madara confirms that also.
Already covered in op.............
i said in OP that Sasuke's possibly as fast as naruto because it's either still doing an attack (yin lightning) or being truly unable to react that left madara resorting to Limbo.
@bold: Is that not what i've been saying? Madara was aware of sasuke and saw sasuke coming, he just couldn't react.
1. Covered in OP. I already said Idc about how sasuke caught up. Not the question. It's about madara being unable to react when sasuke was 6ft away and sliced him in half - needing to move forward and swing his arm. When sm minato was right under him, and only needed to swing his arm, madara gave him a 3 piece... Even though minato surprise blitzed him while he was focused on obito.
2. Someone else suggested this. But, at the end of the day, it's baseless. Madara tried to block naruto
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, didn't stop naruto from
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without him being able to react. FUNFACT: Narutards didn't complain or make any excuses about that what so ever. They wholeheartedly accepted that madara was shat on. Flip the script? Nah, madara 100% didn't care about sasuke.@bold: kill yourself :|
Madara already had the eye, he was doing nothing else. Funfact, why didn't madara use kamui to go intangible, or to snipe sasuke away from him, or to warp himself before sasuke hit? Madara looked at sasuke while he was 6ft+ away.
So, because madara had time to put his hand up, against naruto, it means he gave a shit about naruto, but because he couldn't react against sasuke, it's fact he didn't give a shit about sasuke? :| Oh, what he didn't give a shit about naruto either then? Because he didn't move his body an inch and resorted to limbo right
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. and then you want to call someone a fanboy, for opening up a reasonable discussion :|Na. Guy in next quote explained it. Apparently sasuke did some hack magic to teleport madara in between them, or teleport them around him. dayum
Holy shit, that's what happened? That panel puzzled me, and I thought they just both blitzed him. That's whack as hell then, woah.
Even if madara used limbo, it would most likely not work. unlike naruto, who can only sense limbo and get a general idea of where it is, sasuke can actively see it. Using his rinnegan, he would simply be able to move around it and slice madara. Basically, the same thing SM naruto did(avoid limbo) to toss MFRS at madara.
Before you say limbo would block, like it did naruto, let's not forget naruto was falling from the sky and had no ground to move on, unlike when in his SM state. He could feel limbo, but he couldn't move away.
Except when naruto did that, madara was focused on sasuke... Madara noticed naruto when, like sasuke, he was roughly 6feet away from him.
The eye was in madara's socket... Madara then turned and saw sasuke, both his arms were already by his side in the same position when minato ftg'd to him. Madara had as much awareness as when minato or naruto tried to blitz.
People have already said madara got a headstart. Because i'm asking if sasuke's faster, doesn't mean sasuke's soooo much faster than he can intercept a guy dashing away at max speed with a 100ft headstart and a few feet of distance to cover... Let's not forget these guys weren't that far from kakashi in the very first place.
I don't think that's what happened here. There's a clear indication he swung his harm, mostly solely based on the change in orientation of his hand. MEaning he swung his arm and madara was left unresponsive.
So teleporting swung his arm for him...? Please tell me what happened to minato, the teleporter, after he teleported to madara? Don't worry i'll wait.
Hint: It's in the OP you most likely neglected to read.
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This thread's title is a loaded question that's going to rustle jimmies.
It's like when Naruto attacked Madara 1st and everyone thought Sasuke wouldn't be on par with him. It rustled jimmies.
Naruto still hasn't shown his full speed yet. We only got a glimpse of it when he kicked the black sphere back and attacked Madara.
It's like when Naruto attacked Madara 1st and everyone thought Sasuke wouldn't be on par with him. It rustled jimmies.
Naruto still hasn't shown his full speed yet. We only got a glimpse of it when he kicked the black sphere back and attacked Madara.