wtf? Is sasuke actually faster than naruto?
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Once again I never stated Sasuke isn't fast and I not trying to downplay his ablility. I do believe people are overrating him. Sasuke can use sage chakra/senjutsu and we know sage chakra increased the user's speed. I know Sasuke can use sage chakra/senjutsu because his chidori effected Shadow Madara who is only effected by senjutsu.
Sasuke attacked him from his rear while he wasn't focus on him. There is a huge difference between that and attacking a person from the front who is focus and concerned about his opponent. The reason I used Naruto and Guy's attacks as an exampled was because their attack caused major damaged to Madara and he needed time to recover. That did not happen with Sasuke. He was not effective by Sasuke's attack at all and he continued to do what he was doing.
Because he could only counter with Limbo. Besides from what we've seen, Madara only uses limbo in extreme cases; first against the bijuus, second against Naruto's Lava rasenshuriken, and third again against Naruto's high speed attack. The fact is, if Naruto wasn't holding down his limbo ghost, he would've used it to defend against Sasuke too.
Mind you, no one is saying Sasuke is not extremely fast, we're just saying that assuming he's faster than Naruto at this point is a bit (if not a lot) of a stretch.
RNITBmsage
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how so ?
naruto has multiple speed feats that are equal to if not greater than sasukes
how can one feat from him make you say he is automatically faster ?
Sasuke is on par with Naruto on foot. He kept up with Madara, that's point enough. That teleportation tech gives him an adv
Because he landed a hit on the fastest character? Yes one or two feats is actually enough. Narutos new feats havent been impressive.
Actually it's not a stretch at all. Their attacks landed with chidori and rasengan as well. Naruto didn't slow down his speed just for that. Naruto even told Sasuke as if he knew he was as fast or faster. No Madara isn't using limbo for extreme cases only that is just an assumption. With Sasukes new tech and speed it's not an exagerration at all. He landed a hit on a Juubi Jin,sliced him in half. Naruto hit a weakened Madara.
I don't believe the sealing rasengan and chidori clash had anything to do with foot speed. Sasuke told Naruto to aim his attack at him not Madara, yet they both ended up hitting Madara. I believe that's the power of Sasuke's rinnegan. I think that is a yin base justu that allows him to swap physical objects location within a certain range.
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I believe Naruto will use the 4th FTG for 2 reason.
1 - When this chapter started Naruto was still his holding the FTG kunai. If Naruto just needed it for Sasuke to reach is location there would have been no need to continue to hold on to it.
2 - Naruto already possess his own S/T jutus. When he fought Pain Pa Toad taught him that S/T he used to warp his clones to his location. The reason Naruto did not use it was because Pain did not give him the opportunity.
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While I agree that Sasuke is faster than Naruto. There's no doubt about it, but the time they attacked Madara together had no speed feat. Sasuke said that Naruto should attack him with the rasengan and Sasuke was standing right next to him. So we can assume that Madara was coming to them and they didn't go to him. If that isn't the case, Sasuke would'nt have said that Naruto should aim the rasengan at him.
I would like you to post the scans that made you belive that Sasuke's foot speed is on par with him and keeping up with your opponent in a battle is =/= having the same foot speed as your opponent.Naruto is fighting along with Sasuke and how you are pulling this Sasuke is on par with Naruto while they are actually fighting with Madara is beyond me.
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Sasuke is so fast! that when Naruto yelled to him to help Kakashi sensei... Kakashi already had his eye ripped out by Madara
RNITBmsage
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that makes no sense
naruto could have done the exact same thing
his feats show that aswell
your being biased
Idk how you think Naruto is faster than Sasuke when Sasuke managed to hit him while he was actually on the move. Not only that but has ftg as well. Naruto has never landed a hit on Madara while he was flying at full speed unless you're implying you think Naruto is faster than Madara as well. Then that would explain alot.
That's why I am saying their foot speed is equal. I'm not being bias at all. Space time jutsu gives Sasuke a clear edge tho. No bias here.
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He caught up to him while he was flying at full speed. He had a clear head start and sasuke was puzzled when his jutsu didn't work. Even Madara commented on that and his speed. they are on par but I know this won't get to you. Last post.
Huh? I think you should re-read the manga; that was Sasuke's rinnegan technique used on Madara to bring him (Madara) between him (Sasuke) and Naruto, heck he even says it when he tells Naruto to attack towards him. In other words, none of them had to move fast at all at that point.
Yes, limbo has only been used in extreme case as far as Madara is concerned, I mean it's the same manga we're reading here or are you insinuating that if Madara had limbo when Sasuke attacked him in the end he wouldn't use it? Limbo is his fastest defense and most covert offense because it can't be sensed or seen by just anyone not even sensors.
About Naruto hitting a weakened Madara surely you're only saying that because you had trouble understanding that Chapter because even Madara himself said and I quote "Is it because I'm still recovering...No he's suddenly become more powerful". That alone coming from someone as prideful and egotistic as Madara should tell you he was very much capable of handling that situation had Naruto not been as powerful as he was.
The reason Naruto didn't save Kakashi was becasue he was using a sealing justu to seal his movement.
I missed it the first time, but Madara did stop. Right after he grabbed Kakashi's sharingan he stopped and stood behind him. When Sasuke reaches his location he is still standing behind Kakashi. If he didn't stop like you said Madara would still be moving and a greater distance from Kakashi.
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I have no idea what you are talking about and Naruto clearly has better foot speed than Sasuke or Sasuke has no foot speed feat that suggests otherwise.Naruto is the one who is directly fighting Madara where as what Sasuke did there and analyzing the battle and throw his sword towords Madara which has nothing to do with his foot speed.
Sasuke pulled 3 speed related feats in this chapter and he used his Rinnegan's ability which is not foot speed in all 3 cases.Let me tell you this again Sasuke is currently faster than Naruto because of his Rinnegan's ability but he don't have a faster foot speed than Naruto. It is same as the difference b/w BM/KCM Naruto(Current Naruto) & Minato(Sasuke). If you know the difference b/w Shunshin and teleportation then you should be able understand the difference b/w the speeds of Sasuke and Naruto.
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Madara wasn't moving. Right after he grabbed Kakashi's sharingan he stopped and stood behind him while he implanted his eye. I know that because when Sasuke reaches his location he is still standing behind Kakashi. If he didn't stop like you said Madara would be a greater distance from Kakashi.
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Don't forget the scene moved away from Madara right after he grabbed Kakashi's eye and didn't return to him until Sasuke had reached his stationary location.
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