[Discussion] Why you say Vergo is the 2nd strongest DD member?

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Why people say that? Pica shits on him and Pica is an island buster and he is fighting Zoro(who is obviously is more powerful than Vergo)
So that should be a clear indication that Pica is stronger
 
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Because people here think...get ready and try not to die laughing...they say "Vergo>Zoro"
Bahahahaha Ikr? Even Akainu would find it amusing XD

OT - Its their opinion though i belive Pica is stronger...he has the confidence that he can defeat Fujitora and as you said he is fighting Zoro
 

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What a logic. He must be stronger because he is fighting Zoro. lolololol
You Zoro fapboys are so ridiculous. Btw Vergo > Zoro is more than true. Deal with it.
 

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Because people here think...get ready and try not to die laughing...they say "Vergo>Zoro"
Bahahahaha Ikr? Even Akainu would find it amusing XD

OT - Its their opinion though i belive Pica is stronger...he has the confidence that he can defeat Fujitora and as you said he is fighting Zoro
He has the confidence that he can beat Fujitora? When did he say this?
 

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What a logic. He must be stronger because he is fighting Zoro. lolololol
You Zoro fapboys are so ridiculous. Btw Vergo > Zoro is more than true. Deal with it.
This ^^^^

Vergo has been showcased to be significantly different than the other elite executives - Being Doflamingo's oldest friend, his right hand man etc... not to mention the whole logic that Pica must be stronger because he fights Zoro is pure fail.

For one I actually think Vergo was stronger than Zoro, Vergo made Sanji look like a chump and I doubt the gap between Sanji and Zoro is that big than Zoro could beat someone who could have mid diff Sanji.

Secondly Law and Smoker both battled against Vergo two characters I personally see stronger than Zoro.

OT - Its their opinion though i belive Pica is stronger...he has the confidence that he can defeat Fujitora and as you said he is fighting Zoro
God...Pica could have the confidence to beat whoever he wants doesn't mean he could beat them.
 

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This ^^^^

Vergo has been showcased to be significantly different than the other elite executives - Being Doflamingo's oldest friend, his right hand man etc... not to mention the whole logic that Pica must be stronger because he fights Zoro is pure fail.

For one I actually think Vergo was stronger than Zoro, Vergo made Sanji look like a chump and I doubt the gap between Sanji and Zoro is that big than Zoro could beat someone who could have mid diff Sanji.

Secondly Law and Smoker both battled against Vergo two characters I personally see stronger than Zoro.



God...Pica could have the confidence to beat whoever he wants doesn't mean he could beat them.
1. Zoro always fights the 2nd strongest person in a crew within a main and has always beat them since pre timeskip.
2. Zoro is stronger than Sanji by a comfortable gap U_U
3. Zoro would own smoker that damn fodder U_U.
 

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Pica says if DD allows him to go all out he will be enough to defeat Pirates and Marines(Fujitora)
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Ofc because when he say he can defeat them it will for sure happen. looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
Fuji shits on him while eating ramen. The Zoro fanbase is really the most ridiculous.
 

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1. Zoro always fights the 2nd strongest person in a crew within a main and has always beat them since pre timeskip.
2. Zoro is stronger than Sanji by a comfortable gap U_U
3. Zoro would own smoker that damn fodder U_U.
Yet Zoro never battled the second strongest in the Punk Hazard arc...nice logic.
 

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Pica says if DD allows him to go all out he will be enough to defeat Pirates and Marines(Fujitora)
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Big ****ing deal. Robin said speed and Power mean nothing to her. Does that mean she solos Zoro and Sanji because all they rely on is at the end of the day speed and strength?!


Pica talked big, and then proceeded to get embarrassed. Chinjao and Elizabello easily managed to break his punch.

Luffy alone destroyed the head and be wasn't going all out. The scale of his power means nothing since four people have made his scale mean nothing.

If you honestly think Pica beats everyone on that island alone.... Re-evaluate your observation of One Piece.




1. Vergo has displayed better Haki than most people in the manga. Certainly more than Zoro or Pica.

2. Yes Doflamingo's oldest and most reliable ally obviously excluding Corazon.

3. He destroyed Sanji, and I'm sorry to say, Zoro does not destroy Sanji.

5. Vergo has displayed Rokushiki which is then amplified by Haki. At least Geppo, Shigan, and arguably Soru considering even Tashigi and pre-Skip Coby could use it. Meaning maneuverability wise he's already outclassing Zoro who is easily pacing with Pica.

It's a battle of quality vs quantity. Pica can destroy a large range or terrain. But the quality of Vergo's small class attacks out place him.

If we want to match up fights between DD and the Strawhat alliance

Luffy vs DD

Law vs Vergo

Zoro vs Pica

Law simply fight his real fight on Punk Hazard. Before you argue Law vs Trebol.... He one shot Trebol. That wasn't even a fight.


Luffy is fighting DD
Zoro is fighting Pica
Sanji fought Vergo
Pfft. Sanji got his shit pushed in by Vergo. That was no fight. It was a small clash. Like Crocodile vs Jozu, Mihawk, or Akainu at Marineford.
 
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I'm not sure who is stronger between Vergo and Pica, but what i'm sure about is that Zoro is at least as strong as Vergo if not stronger. Even if we assume that Vergo is stronger, the elite officers aren't portrayed to be far from each other and especially not Vergo and Pica. If Vergo was that vastly stronger than Pica(or the other elite executives), he would have been Doflamingo's right hand man and latest chapter says again that he never had a right hand man and the only right hand man he waited for(during decades) is Law.

So considering Doflamingo views them to be at around the same level, that Doflamingo thought Diamante could handle Luffy(that he thought had greater potential than Law during Punk Hazard), considering that Pica was the elite executive that Viola feared the most, all that makes me think that at the absolute most, Vergo would win against an executive on Pica level with around high/extreme difficulty if at all. And Zoro at the moment seems to imply that he can defeat Pica without difficulty(though i guess we could wait for the conclusion to be sure), but if he really does can mid diff Pica, it would mean to me that he is simply stronger than Vergo. To be safe though, i just put them on the same level at the moment with giving Zoro the slight edge portrayal-wise
 

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Lol At the Zoro fanboys defending Pica & claiming that he's stronger than Vergo so they'll feel good about themselves when Zoro beats Pica.

OT: Vergo is the stronger because he actually has impressive feats. Sure we haven't seen Pica in action yet but we've seen Vergo eat Sanji's DJ & Smoker's CoA like it's nothing. He barely got beat up while fighting those 2. I'll wait till we see Pica fight but my money is on Vergo being stronger.
 
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Lol At the Zoro fanboys defending Pica & claiming that he's stronger than Vergo so they'll feel good about themselves when Zoro beats Pica.

OT: Vergo is the stronger because he actually has impressive feats. Sure we haven't seen Pica in action yet but we've seen Vergo eat Sanji's DJ & Smoker's CoA like it's nothing. He barely got beat up while fighting those 2. I'll wait till we see Pica fight but my money is on Vergo being stronger.

Only legitimate reason he lost at PH was for underestimating Law's Haki.
 

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Pica arguably is a greater tank than Vergo. Vergo never tanked attacks on the level of 1080pound phoenix
Only legitimate reason he lost at PH was for underestimating Law's Haki.
I'm pretty certain it had more to do with the size of the room than Law's haki. He used a mountain size room for a reason
 
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