Why wasnt Hiruzen scared...

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I do not get why people will not just understand.



Now if you read from here you will see A 69 yo Hiruzen beating Hashirama and not only him but his brother and handicapping Orochimaru.

This is th manga therefore it is manga fact that Hiruzen>Hashirama
 

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Data books arent wrong, but you misinterpreted it
And if 2 people have a 5 or the same # in genjutsu, its still possible for 1 one of them to still be way better in that area

Its just that the data book doesnt go that much into detail is how people have trouble with understanding
Ok then jman is stronger than oro in the data book and base naruto and iruka would fight into a stalemate lol.
 

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I do not get why people will not just understand.



Now if you read from here you will see A 69 yo Hiruzen beating Hashirama and not only him but his brother and handicapping Orochimaru.

This is th manga therefore it is manga fact that Hiruzen>Hashirama


from here thats where he should have died :sy: plot didnt agree with that now did it ...just as the plot let sakura beat sasori
 

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I do not get why people will not just understand.



Now if you read from here you will see A 69 yo Hiruzen beating Hashirama and not only him but his brother and handicapping Orochimaru.

This is th manga therefore it is manga fact that Hiruzen>Hashirama
This is part one kishi did not want to reveal hashi god like powers! now in the climax of part 2 we finally get to see these god like powers that could not be revealed in part 1. Also hashi and tobi were mindless killing machines I repeat mindless
 

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Why was this thread even made when you know hiruzen was hokage, was he just going to give up then and there. I actually use to support hiruzen when people said he was a terrible hokage but now that people are not seeing that kishi has made part two going beyond human shinobi powers and going towards god like powers, upsets me. Hiruzen was the top shinobi(humans) we are on god like strength now and the only people's name being mentioned is hashi and madara.
Hiruzens at age 69 final fight made your god Hashirama look like fodder

What youve posted is invalid due to the battle that has decided whos better
 

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I do not get why people will not just understand.



Now if you read from here you will see A 69 yo Hiruzen beating Hashirama and not only him but his brother and handicapping Orochimaru.

This is th manga therefore it is manga fact that Hiruzen>Hashirama
He didn't beat them he sealed their souls and in the process killed himself.
 

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1.) the bijuu acknowledge the so6p to be real and not just a myth.

2.) if you read it there it says everyone believe he was killed, but that doesn't mean he wasnt defeated. So I guess you have a small point there just the scan is a bad one to use as evidence lol
lol I know he is not a myth just like I know hashi's power is not a myth.

Yh but he still beat him madara had to play dead to run away.


Wait are these idiots saying hiruzen beat them when he had to use RDS because he had no hope of winning. You hiruzen fan boys always amaze me :)
 

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This is part one kishi did not want to reveal hashi god like powers! now in the climax of part 2 we finally get to see these god like powers that could not be revealed in part 1. Also hashi and tobi were mindless killing machines I repeat mindless
Mindless killing machines being control by a person who knows Hiruzen
 

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from here thats where he should have died :sy: plot didnt agree with that now did it ...just as the plot let sakura beat sasori
Chiyo was the reason Sasori got beat.

This is part one kishi did not want to reveal hashi god like powers! now in the climax of part 2 we finally get to see these god like powers that could not be revealed in part 1. Also hashi and tobi were mindless killing machines I repeat mindless
That's just your excuse, I know it seems that everything is just much stronger in part 2 but the manga would have had the same outcome if it was in part 2 it just would have been a much bigger battle. And Hiruzen would have been shown to look much stronger. Hiruzen beat him.
 

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I haven't seen a Hashi fan post one page from the manga.
do u believe just because hiruzen won that plot no jutsu fight that he would beat prime hashirama non edo full power ...for arguemnt say lets say prime hiruzen? if so HOW would he beat him...thats all i ask hiruzen fans if u tell me that ill hands down believe hiruzen wins ..but hashi got more in his arsenal to roll hiruzen with his 1k jutsus
 

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do u believe just because hiruzen won that plot no jutsu fight that he would beat prime hashirama non edo full power ...for arguemnt say lets say prime hiruzen? if so HOW would he beat him...thats all i ask hiruzen fans if u tell me that ill hands down believe hiruzen wins ..but hashi got more in his arsenal to roll hiruzen with his 1k jutsus
Hiruzen has Enma to fight against Mokuton. He has Extremely powerful fire release to fight against pollen and wood release, Hiruzen can just use reaper death seal for draw if he has to.
 

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do u believe just because hiruzen won that plot no jutsu fight that he would beat prime hashirama non edo full power ...for arguemnt say lets say prime hiruzen? if so HOW would he beat him...thats all i ask hiruzen fans if u tell me that ill hands down believe hiruzen wins ..but hashi got more in his arsenal to roll hiruzen with his 1k jutsus
Paper bomb tags
If he wasnt Edo he wouldve died, plus Hiruzen already beat him
And it was no where stated that Hashirama wasnt at his full strenght
But otherwise yes
And apparently that wasnt even near a quarter of Hiruzens arsenal

Your just trying to play on the fact we havent seen much of Hiruzens talk about jutsu

Which seems he doesnt need his whole arsenal
When it was still stated Hiruzens the strongest
 
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