Why was the Uchiha Tablet needed to unseal the Reaper Death Seal?

[shubzy123]

Pretty screwed

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

i thought someone said the sage was an uzamaki.

i always thought he was a uzamaki hybrid

Others say he was an Uzumaki-Hyuuga hybrid, I dunno about the Hyuuga part, but I'm certain he is Uzumaki.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

This, especially when the theories contradict the manga

Since you've gone and put it out there, why not back up your burden of proof with manga pages explaining how this contradicts the manga? Theories aren't canon, but that doesn't mean it won't lead to that point in the future.

Outright contradictions are bigger red flags, akin to finding a hundred-million-year-old trillobite fossil in a few feet of beach sand, destroying the Law of Evolution in one fell swoop.

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

Since you've gone and put it out there, why not back up your burden of proof with manga pages explaining how this contradicts the manga? Theories aren't canon, but that doesn't mean it won't lead to that point in the future.

Outright contradictions are bigger red flags, akin to finding a hundred-million-year-old trillobite fossil in a few feet of beach sand, destroying the Law of Evolution in one fell swoop.

Show manga being proof of something contradicting a manga?

Nice logic bro!

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Show manga being proof of something contradicting a manga?

Nice logic bro!

It's easy! Provide manga pages, refer to the thesis presented (Obito's notion) and point out why this couldn't possibly happen in Naruto lore. We're looking for a premise that would destroy previously-established laws that Kishimoto wrote to stone, (e.g. Naruto unlocking the Rinnegan without Uchiha eyes, Sasuke without Senju DNA, etc.) Just a few links away

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

It's easy! Provide manga pages, refer to the thesis presented (Obito's notion) and point out why this couldn't possibly happen in Naruto lore. Just a few links away

Like I said though, why would you have to have a manga (actual canon) contradict a theory (fan opinion and idea about manga) about a manga (actual canon)

Shouldn't it be how a Theory goes on with a manga when the "contradictions" (that guy said it had) contained?

It would be an endless loop of constant Butthurt ideas all together in both circumstances.

Not hating on anyones theories or anything, but Theories are just theories, they shouldn't have proof of an opinion..

 

[BlacLord™]

Since you've gone and put it out there, why not back up your burden of proof with manga pages explaining how this contradicts the manga? Theories aren't canon, but that doesn't mean it won't lead to that point in the future.

Outright contradictions are bigger red flags, akin to finding a hundred-million-year-old trillobite fossil in a few feet of beach sand, destroying the Law of Evolution in one fell swoop.

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There's a big difference between 'distant' and 'direct'.

People seem to have this need to put a name to everything; to categorise everything. Rikudou's bloodline is his own special bloodline, which later split and his powerful eyes and strong body seperated into his two sons.

Madara proved this by obtaining Senju DNA and it's mixing with his own Uchiha blood to awaken the Rinnegan. Plus, if Senju and Uchiha = Uzumaki, why were the Uzumaki only noted for their sealing skills and stamina, and not for special eyes, adeptness for combat and for variety of skills.

 

[ElementNami92]

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There's a big difference between 'distant' and 'direct'.

People seem to have this need to put a name to everything; to categorise everything. Rikudou's bloodline is his own special bloodline, which later split and his powerful eyes and strong body seperated into his two sons.

Madara proved this by obtaining Senju DNA and it's mixing with his own Uchiha blood to awaken the Rinnegan. Plus, if Senju and Uchiha = Uzumaki, why were the Uzumaki only noted for their sealing skills and stamina, and not for special eyes, adeptness for combat and for variety of skills.

Im not bashing you but, the sage only had 2 sons. One with eyes, and the other body. Also why would Kishimoto just flat out tell us that Uzumaki is the Real descendant of the younger brother? It'd ruin the story. Also Another thing, Younger brother and Older brother..Sasuke was born first, Naruto second. Uchiha is portrayed as Older brother, and Uzumaki could be the younger brother. Hence why Naruto is the main character, since the younger brother won the fight. Just a theory.

 

[Sir Blades]

All I know is that its very interesting. It could be possible he used the mask to read the tablet maybe? and found the way to release the hokages.

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

Im not bashing you but, the sage only had 2 sons. One with eyes, and the other body. Also why would Kishimoto just flat out tell us that Uzumaki is the Real descendant of the younger brother? It'd ruin the story. Also Another thing, Younger brother and Older brother..Sasuke was born first, Naruto second. Uchiha is portrayed as Older brother, and Uzumaki could be the younger brother. Hence why Naruto is the main character, since the younger brother won the fight. Just a theory.

I think it'd ruin the story less, considering we already know that he is the SO6P reincarnate it would be more probable, but since it's the "Senju" portrayed as the Younger son it has a lot of theories it shouldn't have..

 

[2Lazy2Post]

My bet would be that Sasuke read the tablet himself since he didn't have a chance to since getting his MS and has yet to reveal the importance of what he read. So it wouldn't have anything to do with the actual sealing.

 

[BlacLord™]

Im not bashing you but, the sage only had 2 sons. One with eyes, and the other body. Also why would Kishimoto just flat out tell us that Uzumaki is the Real descendant of the younger brother? It'd ruin the story. Also Another thing, Younger brother and Older brother..Sasuke was born first, Naruto second. Uchiha is portrayed as Older brother, and Uzumaki could be the younger brother. Hence why Naruto is the main character, since the younger brother won the fight. Just a theory.

That's what I said, the power spilt between the two sons. It wouldn't ruin the story and it wouldn't leave a plot hole if the theory were true.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Like I said though, why would you have to have a manga (actual canon) contradict a theory (fan opinion and idea about manga) about a manga (actual canon)

You're taking official manga pages to provide why the theory would facilitate inconsistencies ("the accepted notion goes that nothing can travel faster than Light--why would other particles break this notion?").

There's a big difference between 'distant' and 'direct'.

We are distant and direct relatives of Protocells and Micelles; does being the progenitor of such create an inconsistency between what has already been established and what is presented? None so far.

 

[Bijuu Bomber]

You're taking official manga pages to provide why the theory would facilitate inconsistencies

Oh, now I get what you're saying..k.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Yes. Sasuke clearly said "what's important is downstairs" referring to the Uchiha Tablet, and yet Sasuke didn't read the Tablet, so why was it important? simple, to unseal the Reaper.

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I do believe that it was needed to unseal the Reaper but I also believe that Sasuke read the Tablet. He kneels closer to the Tablet than the rest, then in the next page you can distinguish that his Sharingan is activated. [

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[FreakensteinAG]

I do believe that it was needed to unseal the Reaper but I also believe that Sasuke read the Tablet. He kneels closer to the Tablet than the rest, then in the next page you can distinguish that his Sharingan is activated.

Indeed, though what was written couldn't have possibly been linked to the activation of the Shiku Fuujin, as no words were spoken. However, it has been established that both Orochimaru and Kabuto have spent quite some time poking holes in the Tablet by Trial-And-Error guesses. He had to have figured out the ritual from there.*

*also the Hanya mask was situated by the shrine. Best place to have a meeting?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I do believe that it was needed to unseal the Reaper but I also believe that Sasuke read the Tablet. He kneels closer to the Tablet than the rest, then in the next page you can distinguish that his Sharingan is activated. [

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He was lighting the torches. If he was reading it he would directly be in front of it not crouch beside the torch, obviously he's merely lighting the torch.

 

[BlacLord™]

You're taking official manga pages to provide why the theory would facilitate inconsistencies ("the accepted notion goes that nothing can travel faster than Light--why would other particles break this notion?").



We are distant and direct relatives of Protocells and Micelles; does being the progenitor of such create an inconsistency between what has already been established and what is presented? None so far.

Why are you comparing that to a Shounen manga which uses a simple lineage format? The manga makes a clear distinction to whom is linked and how. There was no mention of the Uchiha being linked by history, which would have been important for making the theory viable.

Besides, the Senju/Uchiha rooting is much shorter with less 'room' for such irregular links. I mean seriously? Comparing the ancestry of humans to the timeline of shinobi? The timeline is too short upto Hashirama's era for them to be distant and direct.

 

[BlacLord™]

You're taking official manga pages to provide why the theory would facilitate inconsistencies ("the accepted notion goes that nothing can travel faster than Light--why would other particles break this notion?").



We are distant and direct relatives of Protocells and Micelles; does being the progenitor of such create an inconsistency between what has already been established and what is presented? None so far.

Why are you comparing that to a Shounen manga which uses a simple lineage format? The manga makes a clear distinction to whom is linked and how. There was no mention of the Uchiha being linked by history, which would have been important for making the theory viable.

Besides, the Senju/Uchiha rooting is much shorter with less 'room' for such irregular links. I mean seriously? Comparing the ancestry of humans to the timeline of shinobi? The timeline is too short upto Hashirama's era for them to be distant and direct.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The error in the assumption of others is that the Uchiha and Senju Ancestors are naturally conceived children of Rikūdo, quite the contrary, the Elder and Younger are but creations from the Jūbi's Yin-Yang power with Banbutsu Sōzō, the Uzumaki is the original true bloodline of Rikūdo Sennin before becoming Jūbi's jinchūriki.