Why these 6 paths are weaker

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All that is true but i dont think he can use chibaku tensei due to the one major weakness Madara has when using this technique that Nagato didnt have. Nagato had ungodly amounts of chakra. Madara is "a shell of his former self" so i tend to think that his chakra levels are not very high right now. thats why he want to be a jinchuuriki in the first place it because he said he needs the chakra so i tend to think what he can do with this tech is going to be very limited by Madaras chakra levels.
actually we dont know Madaras real chakra level. He has shown to not even try in battles. He could have a chakra level the same as a tailed beast maybe even a lil more. He most likely is a shell of a former self but maybe when he said that he meant he was weaker and another unknown reason.
 

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idk if you misquoted or what but i never said anything about that. i said about they won't have MS but just normal 3tomoes from madara's stash, the rinnegans are made the same way nagato's paths and summons had rinnegan but its definatly a transformation not pulling more eyes out of nowhere.

@cyborg, possibly, i see the argument for it since rinnegan>sharingan you could see why you'd want 2 of the original eye rather then 1 and the desended version (sharingan) but i don't think the powers are limited by amount of eyes, if they have 1 they should be able to access all of the path's power
I was saying that the sharingan appeared in the jinchuuriki as a result of the link as well. Both of their eyes, the sharingan and the rinnegan are there b/c Madara (who used the Rikkudou jutsu) has them. Now i dont think they are going to use MS either but the reason for that is b/c we have NEVER seen Madara use MS. Using this Pain Rikudou if Madara were to use theMS it should activate in the 6 paths as well but since he's never been seen using it in the whole series so far i doubt it will happen until hes in one of the final battles like with naruto
 

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actually we dont know Madaras real chakra level. He has shown to not even try in battles. He could have a chakra level the same as a tailed beast maybe even a lil more. He most likely is a shell of a former self but maybe when he said that he meant he was weaker and another unknown reason.
its not that he doesnt try......he AVOIDS them!! just look at his favorite jutsu!! the "cant touch me" jutsu! hes a freakin "in the shadows" politician. even the tsuchikage said that someone as strong as him could do whatever he wanted and Madara said "no" "i am but a shell of my former self. my wounds from my battle with the 1st hokage were so great i never recovered" then he started the Akatsuki to fight his battles for him. none of this sounds anything like someone who has "tailed beast" levels of chakra dude.......yes he is an accomplished shinobi but he himself said that he was weak now. Hell, he had to practically beg to get into the akatsuki when he was going as Tobi so he obviously didnt have much to prove he was strong enough. Madara is a phsycological fighter now not a strength fighter
 

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How do we know that Sharigun can not turn into a MS. His using very advance space - time techniques It would be suprising if a normal sharigun is capable of that.
he has been shown using his space/time ninjutsu when his sharingan was clearly visable and not in the MS form. And lets not forget that the 2nd and 4th hokage both used space/time ninjutsu and neither of them had any form of sharingan...
 
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I have to admit I just skimmed through but.

The 6 paths have the same eyes as the person in control right?

Isn't it possible to change if you're using regular Sharingan, or EMS ?


Because at that moment Madara seemed to be using the same version + he doesn't have that many Rinnegan eyes to my knowledge.

That being said, he had a chance to use both Rinnegan and remove his Sharingan did he not? Should we then not assume he found an advantage of having both eyes opposed to just one?

Further more where's the proof that having just one Rinnegan weakens what you can do with it?

To go a step further let's look at having a Sharingan and a Byakugan.

Idk, it makes me think of having a gun and a knife for when you run out of bullets. Guns stronger for sure but that knife is going to give you more use in a tough spot.

Okay, maybe I'm reaching now lol.
 

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I have to admit I just skimmed through but.

The 6 paths have the same eyes as the person in control right?

Isn't it possible to change if you're using regular Sharingan, or EMS ?


Because at that moment Madara seemed to be using the same version + he doesn't have that many Rinnegan eyes to my knowledge.

That being said, he had a chance to use both Rinnegan and remove his Sharingan did he not? Should we then not assume he found an advantage of having both eyes opposed to just one?

Further more where's the proof that having just one Rinnegan weakens what you can do with it?

To go a step further let's look at having a Sharingan and a Byakugan.

Idk, it makes me think of having a gun and a knife for when you run out of bullets. Guns stronger for sure but that knife is going to give you more use in a tough spot.

Okay, maybe I'm reaching now lol.
Yeah the jutsu users eyes are copied by the 6 paths. And theres debate as to whether or not one rinnegan is as good as two. there has never been any mention of needing two for any of its abilities like you need both MS for susano'o. However Madaras biggest advantage is his space/time ninjutsu which he would've lost if he had removed the sharingan in favor of two rinnegan. also he needs the sharingans tsukiyomi for his moons eye plan.
 
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well the rinnegan with the sharingan equals a killer combo.

Sharingan allows the user to see the flow of chakra and see if someone is in a genjutsu. It also allows the user to see the next attack or moviment of an opponent and counter/dodge without any wasted moviment. Along with the genjutsu it can give, a foe can have pretty rough time. Especially if Madara is controlling them..

The rinnegan allows the user to use all 6 forms of chakra nature. They are able to use all the six paths which Madara has already done and he can also use the Outer Path. It can also lets them see chakra.

In all i say Madara's paths of pain are gonna be difficult to beat with the combined abilities of both the sharingan and the rinnegan. Not to mention Madara can also use the the Demonic Statue of the outer path along with Chibaku Tensei.

The rinnegan can also see flow of chakara between people. Rinnegan can do everything a regular sharigan can do as well as the 6 paths techniques (e.g. revival technique). Therefore your sharagian explaination as being useful compare to 2 rinnegan is still weak/useless.

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The rinnegan can also see flow of chakara between people. Rinnegan can do everything a regular sharigan can do as well as the 6 paths techniques (e.g. revival technique). Therefore your sharagian explaination as being useful compare to 2 rinnegan is still weak/useless.

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if thats the case he still only needs one. Keeping his sharingan kept his space/time teleportation ninjutsu and that is such an advantage on the battlefield that i understand why he wouldnt want to get rid of it. and if the rinnegan can see all of the chakra and such as the sharingan that means that his vision is still balanced but he can now use all the paths of pain in addition to the sharingan abilities that he has been using to make him practically invincible despite the fact that he lost most of his power from his injuries in his battle with the 1st hokage.
 

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how do you know that those eyes dont have MS ?
Madara DID say 'they should finally be accustomed to their eyes'
they could have unlocked ms like kakashi.
nobody knows apart from kishi.
sharingan and rinnegan is the best combo.
 

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you have got to think about how they work now each one can see what the other one is seeing ( rinnegan ) and can help them predict ( sharingan ) so with these two together makes them very hard to beat
 

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how do you know that those eyes dont have MS ?
Madara DID say 'they should finally be accustomed to their eyes'
they could have unlocked ms like kakashi.
nobody knows apart from kishi.
sharingan and rinnegan is the best combo.
no no no..... Those eyes AREN'T THIERS!!! they do have MS.......IF MADARAS USES MS!!! those eyes on the jinchuuriki are there b/c Madara has them linked to him with the Pain Rikudou so if he uses MS, they will too BUT in the entire Naruto series it has nnever once shown Madara use the mangekyo sharingan so there is no reason to think that he will right now. he probly wont until the turning point of an epic battle right when we think hes about to be beaten
 
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are you really sayin that EMS WILL LOSE TO RINNEGAN RINNEGAN SUCK NARUTO WAS KILLIN THEM WEAK PAINS WITH REGULAR RASENGANS GET A HOLD OF YOUR SELF RINNEGAN IS GARBAGE CANT COMPARE TO SHARINGAN
 

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you greatly underestimate the power of the sharingan. why have two rinnegan when just one will grant you the exact same magnitude of power plus the sharingan can read chakra to a greater degree than the rinnegan, accuratley predict/counter attack moves and copy jutsu all that plus the power of the rinnegan makes madaras' 6 paths far stronger then nagatos'. and it's ems>ms>rinnegan>sharingan.
 

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wtf madara dont have ems no more if he did he wudnt have needed sasuke or he wudnt been scared of kabutomaru get your facts right
if he doesnt have the mangekyo sharingan then how is he going to use tsukiyomi on the moon for his moons eye plan since tsukiyomi is a MS ability. Maybe YOU should get YOUR facts in order and maybe read the manga once or twice more until you understand THE BASIC PLOT. You cant make an evil plan if you are incapable of using the tech that the evil plan requires!!!
 
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