actually we dont know Madaras real chakra level. He has shown to not even try in battles. He could have a chakra level the same as a tailed beast maybe even a lil more. He most likely is a shell of a former self but maybe when he said that he meant he was weaker and another unknown reason.
Why these 6 paths are weaker
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MuDfAcToRy25
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I was saying that the sharingan appeared in the jinchuuriki as a result of the link as well. Both of their eyes, the sharingan and the rinnegan are there b/c Madara (who used the Rikkudou jutsu) has them. Now i dont think they are going to use MS either but the reason for that is b/c we have NEVER seen Madara use MS. Using this Pain Rikudou if Madara were to use theMS it should activate in the 6 paths as well but since he's never been seen using it in the whole series so far i doubt it will happen until hes in one of the final battles like with naruto
MuDfAcToRy25
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its not that he doesnt try......he AVOIDS them!! just look at his favorite jutsu!! the "cant touch me" jutsu! hes a freakin "in the shadows" politician. even the tsuchikage said that someone as strong as him could do whatever he wanted and Madara said "no" "i am but a shell of my former self. my wounds from my battle with the 1st hokage were so great i never recovered" then he started the Akatsuki to fight his battles for him. none of this sounds anything like someone who has "tailed beast" levels of chakra dude.......yes he is an accomplished shinobi but he himself said that he was weak now. Hell, he had to practically beg to get into the akatsuki when he was going as Tobi so he obviously didnt have much to prove he was strong enough. Madara is a phsycological fighter now not a strength fighter
lightning f57
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How do we know that Sharigun can not turn into a MS. His using very advance space - time techniques It would be suprising if a normal sharigun is capable of that.
MuDfAcToRy25
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he has been shown using his space/time ninjutsu when his sharingan was clearly visable and not in the MS form. And lets not forget that the 2nd and 4th hokage both used space/time ninjutsu and neither of them had any form of sharingan...
JustBetweenYouAndI
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I have to admit I just skimmed through but.
The 6 paths have the same eyes as the person in control right?
Isn't it possible to change if you're using regular Sharingan, or EMS ?
Because at that moment Madara seemed to be using the same version + he doesn't have that many Rinnegan eyes to my knowledge.
That being said, he had a chance to use both Rinnegan and remove his Sharingan did he not? Should we then not assume he found an advantage of having both eyes opposed to just one?
Further more where's the proof that having just one Rinnegan weakens what you can do with it?
To go a step further let's look at having a Sharingan and a Byakugan.
Idk, it makes me think of having a gun and a knife for when you run out of bullets. Guns stronger for sure but that knife is going to give you more use in a tough spot.
Okay, maybe I'm reaching now lol.
The 6 paths have the same eyes as the person in control right?
Isn't it possible to change if you're using regular Sharingan, or EMS ?
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Because at that moment Madara seemed to be using the same version + he doesn't have that many Rinnegan eyes to my knowledge.
That being said, he had a chance to use both Rinnegan and remove his Sharingan did he not? Should we then not assume he found an advantage of having both eyes opposed to just one?
Further more where's the proof that having just one Rinnegan weakens what you can do with it?
To go a step further let's look at having a Sharingan and a Byakugan.
Idk, it makes me think of having a gun and a knife for when you run out of bullets. Guns stronger for sure but that knife is going to give you more use in a tough spot.
Okay, maybe I'm reaching now lol.
MuDfAcToRy25
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Yeah the jutsu users eyes are copied by the 6 paths. And theres debate as to whether or not one rinnegan is as good as two. there has never been any mention of needing two for any of its abilities like you need both MS for susano'o. However Madaras biggest advantage is his space/time ninjutsu which he would've lost if he had removed the sharingan in favor of two rinnegan. also he needs the sharingans tsukiyomi for his moons eye plan.
Yondaime Raikage
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The rinnegan can also see flow of chakara between people. Rinnegan can do everything a regular sharigan can do as well as the 6 paths techniques (e.g. revival technique). Therefore your sharagian explaination as being useful compare to 2 rinnegan is still weak/useless.
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MuDfAcToRy25
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if thats the case he still only needs one. Keeping his sharingan kept his space/time teleportation ninjutsu and that is such an advantage on the battlefield that i understand why he wouldnt want to get rid of it. and if the rinnegan can see all of the chakra and such as the sharingan that means that his vision is still balanced but he can now use all the paths of pain in addition to the sharingan abilities that he has been using to make him practically invincible despite the fact that he lost most of his power from his injuries in his battle with the 1st hokage.
how do you know that those eyes dont have MS ?
Madara DID say 'they should finally be accustomed to their eyes'
they could have unlocked ms like kakashi.
nobody knows apart from kishi.
sharingan and rinnegan is the best combo.
Madara DID say 'they should finally be accustomed to their eyes'
they could have unlocked ms like kakashi.
nobody knows apart from kishi.
sharingan and rinnegan is the best combo.
bigrich258
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you have got to think about how they work now each one can see what the other one is seeing ( rinnegan ) and can help them predict ( sharingan ) so with these two together makes them very hard to beat
MuDfAcToRy25
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no no no..... Those eyes AREN'T THIERS!!! they do have MS.......IF MADARAS USES MS!!! those eyes on the jinchuuriki are there b/c Madara has them linked to him with the Pain Rikudou so if he uses MS, they will too BUT in the entire Naruto series it has nnever once shown Madara use the mangekyo sharingan so there is no reason to think that he will right now. he probly wont until the turning point of an epic battle right when we think hes about to be beaten
MuDfAcToRy25
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MuDfAcToRy25
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madara and his brother were the first two uchiha to unlock MS then madara took his brothers eyes when he was going blind from using it and discovered that it gave him the eternal mangekyo sharingan........have you read the manga?
blackbird31468
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you greatly underestimate the power of the sharingan. why have two rinnegan when just one will grant you the exact same magnitude of power plus the sharingan can read chakra to a greater degree than the rinnegan, accuratley predict/counter attack moves and copy jutsu all that plus the power of the rinnegan makes madaras' 6 paths far stronger then nagatos'. and it's ems>ms>rinnegan>sharingan.
MuDfAcToRy25
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if he doesnt have the mangekyo sharingan then how is he going to use tsukiyomi on the moon for his moons eye plan since tsukiyomi is a MS ability. Maybe YOU should get YOUR facts in order and maybe read the manga once or twice more until you understand THE BASIC PLOT. You cant make an evil plan if you are incapable of using the tech that the evil plan requires!!!