KidGamer65
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And lets use a bit of common sense here. If Indra's Arrow>>>>Naruto's final attack, then it would have plowed through Naruto's final attack and killed him.
Why people say IA was stalemated by 2 RSs?
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AlphaScythian
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No, we have no way to know that. If i throw some explosive at you and you manage to detonate it mid way would it still reach you in one piece?
Common sense you said?
Please understand crossing country waves, because the explosion did not produce waves to travel countries. Edo Madara's meteor is also your guess. Where did I say TBBRS is greater attack than the explosion?I know the difference from explosion and blast wave, but show me another blast wave crossing over two countries.
Your best guess would be juubi TBB
Even if i make the circle twice smaller to rule out blast wave that shakes IT roots with zetsus on it it still far more powerful then TBBRS.
Sadly, NV's map is inconsistent when comparing it to Kishi's scaling. [
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] So to come to a logical conclusion, either the valley is not located on the Land of Sound and is on Land of Lightning, or the map is outdated. Because that is not a country distance, and if it was it's small. Like I said, the actual scaling is a lot smaller when scaling it on the map.Yes, it is. You would have to calculate the explosion from what you're seeing on the panel, and nowhere you can assume it's far bigger.
If it was stronger, it would have pierced through Naruto's attack and killed him. But it didn't.
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Japanese Raws say everything on the planet. But regardless, it was enhanced with everything that was available, according to Kurama. So I don't know why you are comparing it to an attack used by Naruto on his own, when this attack is Naruto+Boatload of Nature Energy.
So? Him having Senjutsu already doesn't change the fact that making two techniques with that much Nature Energy (More than he has himself) will create better results.
Not even close to the same analogy. We are talking about two attacks colliding, not you throwing a grenade at me and me detonating it mid way. The fact that its not specific enough also makes it flawed.
If Naruto's attack wasn't strong enough to stop Sasuke's arrow and make it explode, then it would have plowed right through it just like the Juubi's laser plowed through B and Naruto's Continuous Bijuu Dama. Any old attack won't make any explosive attack explode. Not how it works. Did Killer B's Bijuu Dama make the Juubi's explode? No, the Juubi's Bijuu Dama plowed right through it.
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That isn't Chidori Nagashi. It was Indra's arrow, A Lightning-based justu in the form of an Arrow.
Arrows Pierces things.
Lightning Pierces things.
TBB And RS always detonate when it hits (Or Naruto detonates it) or comes into contact with an opposing force.
I hope you aren't saying Indra's arrow is the explosion in this scenario.
Disagree, the clash produced a massively bigger explosion and the rasengan's were much bigger than what he'd normally produce without an avatar.Chidori nagashi doesnt pierce, it expands.
Not as wide and never cause such big blastwaves.
I dont credit it solely to IA i made a deduction based of what feats TBBRS holds by itself.
Dont pull kishi here, TBB factor is good force to make IA explode expand w/e.
I know the difference from explosion and blast wave, but show me another blast wave crossing over two countries.
Your best guess would be juubi TBB
Even if i make the circle twice smaller to rule out blast wave that shakes IT roots with zetsus on it it still far more powerful then TBBRS.
Oh so maps are inconsistent why now? I know that NV is small but the scale is there, we dont have other attacks causing havok worldwide.
The explosion is far bigger then VoTE, we dont even have full picture of it.
Im not wanking sasuke here, ultimately the attack was tanked by them both so no point, im just cutting naruto fans bias and showing that IA was stronger.
Ashura avatar is but new throwing platform it doesnt make RS stronger.
All the nature energy on the planet? Arent we getting a bit exaggerated here? Wasnt it just from VoTE at best?
Its not obvious conclusion in any way either, naruto already has senjutsu in him and even sage's senjutsu.
AlphaScythian
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I understand that blast wave is important effect of explosion. I also agreed to make a circle smaller just so you stop molesting this point cuz its useless, TBBRS's blast wave havent even reached team 7 below. I was honest about the crudeness of my calculation cuz the difference of both attacks is so great it doesnt matter.
What you show here is that NV is small i dont see any inconsistency.
Konoha is but small village and its among biggest cities in NV, so its just NV thats small.
The huge junk of it is still off panel and the epicentre of it is behind the statue above the lakes thus all you see isnt even the half.
You better find some back up from manga for this statement, i dont needs self proclaimed kishi BS here as arguments.
Gee and just how much was available cuz we now seem to have an amplitude from some valley to whole world. And how about the fact that all that was available was only good enough for 1 FRS and 1 TBBRS.
Plus the fact naruto still has to mix nature energy with his own chakra makes it regular senjutsu.
Covered above. Just when did naruto became pure nature energy user?
There is no analogy, you came up with some BS that it would have to plow through naruto's attack whist i see no reason for that especially since exploding TBB is good way to detonate IA.
GEEZ. Juubi laser is continuous stream while IA is projectile. So new particles of juubi laser would always remain on course even if some were stopped.
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AlphaScythian
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Gee even that chidori is piercing attack is still has huge expansion force as we saw in clashes with rasengan
I think this scan shows it perfectly that Raiton can expand and it makes sense.
I can act like nagashi
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Massively bigger explosion is due to IA, naruto w/o avatar could make PS sized TBBRSs.
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You're saying the waves travel at a country distance, which is why I'm telling you it doesn't.
Konoha isn't a country. Villages isn't a country. This is what's considered a country in NV:
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Naruto's and Sasuke's attack did not reach a country distance, and by the scan I posted, it disproves your map scaling and argumentation. So it's not that NV is too small, but rather the map is outdated and Kishi's inconsistency. Or the valley is not actually on the Land of Sound, but on Lightning Country.
What junk? I'm not seeing any junk what-so-ever.
Find a better excuse than using Kishi's BS writing here.
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You... i like you. And you sig.
OT: I am a Naruto fan but i have to agree. In his current condition, Naruto didin't have enough chakra to equal Sasuke. Indra's Arrow is massive and Naruto's attack, in my oppinion, only protected him from the impact of the explosion.
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No im saying the explosion plus blast wave got over two countries.
Kamui beans U_U
So you're saying the attack didnt cross countries because kishi doesnt know what's he's drawing? Plus sasuke was going to hidden sound so VoTE is there not sand country. If it was sand country i would point out far bigger explosion then.
The bigger part of explosion is still off panel geez.
If you consider it kishi BS you shouldnt be reading naruto then.
Very appreciated.
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YellowFang
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False calculations and all assumptions...
The impact effected both equally,
That's why people consider it was a stalemate...
P.S. Sasuke was in his 'Solo' Susanoo...
The impact effected both equally,
That's why people consider it was a stalemate...
P.S. Sasuke was in his 'Solo' Susanoo...
AlphaScythian
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KG was sorta hyping naruto there, but w/e :cool
Any explosion that would erupt between them would effect them equally. Dont see how this changes things.
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According to map it did.
Yes villages are not countries, i knew that :vincent:
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No it isnt. You can see that by the lack of remaining circumference, its not even half.
Concession accepted