Why people believe in Healthy Itachi but not Prime Hiruzen?

[Exaar]

Prime Hiruzen only existed in the idea that Naruto would have one part. The story expanded and went in depth to the Narutoverse's history, making the possibility of Prime Hiruzen existing illogical.

His part 1 hype continued in the Databooks that were released during part 2.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Fair enough but prime Hiruzen is nowhere near prime Hashirama

 

[SenseiSama]

Ok, but KCM Naruto solos everyone you mentioned therefore Itachi solos.

Ty & Sasuke solos prime Hiruzen

 

[Ambivalence]

Prime Hiruzen does exist, he's just not nearly as strong as he's believed to be. Prime Hiruzen can casually wreck Hokage Kakashi and can probably take out Tsunade as well, but doesn't stand a chance against the other Hokages. No ''neutralizer gg'', sorry.

 

[Exaar]

Prime Hiruzen does exist, he's just not nearly as strong as he's believed to be. Prime Hiruzen can casually wreck Hokage Kakashi and can probably take out Tsunade as well, but doesn't stand a chance against the other Hokages. No ''neutralizer gg'', sorry.

Doesn't need neutralizer when the latest databook (4th) increases his hype even more by saying at a young age he had shown even more talent that tobirama did.

 

[SenseiSama]

Prime Hiruzen does exist, he's just not nearly as strong as he's believed to be. Prime Hiruzen can casually wreck Hokage Kakashi and can probably take out Tsunade as well, but doesn't stand a chance against the other Hokages. No ''neutralizer gg'', sorry.

Sorry I don't believe that, she survived the beating of 25 Susanoo clones. Tsunade can tank all of Hiruzen's jutsu and she wrecks him with one punch since he can't heal. And her slug spits acid on his summon all day

 

[SenseiSama]

Doesn't need neutralizer when the latest databook (4th) increases his hype even more by saying at a young age he had shown even more talent that tobirama did.

Sakura showed more talent than Naruto at a young age

 

[Exaar]

Sakura showed more talent than Naruto at a young age

She showed more talent in terms of chakra control/Genjutsu, Thats about it.

Even so, Hiruzen showed more talent at a young age than an Hokage level Senju, Far different from sakura "showing more talent" than naruto who at the time was an academy student/genin.

Big difference in your comparison.

 

[Ambivalence]

Sorry I don't believe that, she survived the beating of 25 Susanoo clones.

Lol, you're saying it like she took them all on alone. Most of the Hokage vs Susano'o battle was skipped, the only thing we know for sure is she took out at least one Susano'o [

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], some of the others were beating Mei and Gaara, Ay was saved by Oonoki and the rest were all taken out by Oonoki's massive Jinton. Tsunade's worst injuries were also only impalement, which she can survive, obviously. Still no proof she can survive decapitation/brain damage.

Tsunade can tank all of Hiruzen's jutsu

Not really. All he needs is to crush her head with Enma Staff, which was strong enough to

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. The only speed department Tsunade surpasses Prime Hiruzen in is striking speed, and that's mostly because I'm giving Hiruzen the benefit of doubt. Prime Hiruzen would have no trouble with stamina issues, so he can just make Shadow Clones and use large scale elemental attacks to put pressure on Tsunade while he's aiming for a kill.

That, or he ties her with RDS.

and she wrecks him with one punch since he can't heal.

Provided she hits him in the first place.

And her slug spits acid on his summon all day

That acid's not dissolving a staff hyped to be as hard as a diamond, especially since it's greatest feat is dissolving a rock.

Anyway, I'm going mostly by hype, which I don't really like to do, but if I take Old/Edo Hiruzen's feats and at least double them to match Prime Hiruzen, then it's likely that he can take out Tsunade.

 

[kimb]

His part 1 hype continued in the Databooks that were released during part 2.

People would have noticed the inconsistency between Databooks.