Why Obito totally roflstomps Madara

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Madara living through a War and fighting shinobi like hashirama means F all against obito.

Also Obito's S/T is an almost perfect defense, For only those who have access to S/T Jutsu's on the same level at FTG or have kamui can actually harm obito.

Even Bm naruto's/v2 Raikage's speed levels arn't enough to touch him, So i would like to see how madara is going to do it, Also Minato who has inhuman reflexes barely escaped obito's warping with FTG.
I would love to see how madara escapes an almost instant warp.

so all of madaras battle experiance means nothing against obito, who lost to the fourth and was never any good until he met madara? cool makes sense

all you obito fanboys talk about is kamui, its like that one jutsu makes him the best ever.

even if he did warp madara into the next dimension, he would still have to kill him. and if obito warped a clone instead of the real madara unknowingly it would be game over as obito would get attacked in both dimesions. obito does not beat madara. end of story

edit: forgot to mention konan who straight up overpowered obito kamui with constant fire tags, to the point where obito had to use izanagi to save himself costing him his sharingan, and he cant even do that now unless he wants to lose his precious kamui. you think amaterasu could overpower kamui, maybe perfect susano?
 
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hmm I wonder if he can beat Rikudou sennin like that too. Good points OP.


LOL idiot. obito could barely hang in there with konan, madara would shitstomp him like a cockroach
 

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so all of madaras battle experiance means nothing against obito, who lost to the fourth and was never any good until he met madara? cool makes sense

all you obito fanboys talk about is kamui, its like that one jutsu makes him the best ever.

even if he did warp madara into the next dimension, he would still have to kill him. and if obito warped a clone instead of the real madara unknowingly it would be game over as obito would get attacked in both dimesions. obito does not beat madara. end of story

edit: forgot to mention konan who straight up overpowered obito kamui with constant fire tags, to the point where obito had to use izanagi to save himself costing him his sharingan, and he cant even do that now unless he wants to lose his precious kamui. you think amaterasu could overpower kamui, maybe perfect susano?

You can have all the experiance in the world, If you cannot touch your opponent or lack the tools to do it, you will lose, simple as that.

Funny you claim i'm the fanboy (i don't even like obito), Yet your speaking complete bullshit on why madara would win and have given no Valid reasons.

Minato/Konan have the tools to counter Obitio's S/T, Unless madara is summoning 6billion paper bombs or learns FTG he can't do shit to obito
Perfect sasunoo won't touch obito, he would phase right through it.

So i'll ask again, Please give me one valid reason how Madara counters obito's S/T.
 

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You can have all the experiance in the world, If you cannot touch your opponent or lack the tools to do it, you will lose, simple as that.

Funny you claim i'm the fanboy (i don't even like obito), Yet your speaking complete bullshit on why madara would win and have given no Valid reasons.

Minato/Konan have the tools to counter Obitio's S/T, Unless madara is summoning 6billion paper bombs or learns FTG he can't do shit to obito
Perfect sasunoo won't touch obito, he would phase right through it.

So i'll ask again, Please give me one valid reason how Madara counters obito's S/T.

man if you dont think any of my arguments are valid then i dont think there is any possible way to create a valid argument in your mind, and that combined with the fact that your only argument is kamui makes obito untouchable leads me to believe your either a fanboy, a troll or just plain stupid. either way your a waste of time.

have nice day
 

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man if you dont think any of my arguments are valid then i dont think there is any possible way to create a valid argument in your mind, and that combined with the fact that your only argument is kamui makes obito untouchable leads me to believe your either a fanboy, a troll or just plain stupid. either way your a waste of time.

have nice day

It does make him almost completely untouchable, it's simply a fact.

Yet again you failed to raise any valid points, Only 3 known counters to obito's S/T, beingable to controll 6 billion paper bombs, Having an intentious S/T jutsu of your own Or having kamui.

Befor calling others stupid, you should be able to come up with a decent counter argument, You've came up with nothing. Do you have any valid arguments on how madara defeats kamui, or you just another person who think madara wins, just because he is madara?
 

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or you just another person who think madara wins, just because he is madara?

And boom. That's pretty much all you need to know who wins and who loses. Look at it from the writer's perspective, who do you think kishimoto would have win? A 30 yr old clown obito or A legend like madara who taught obito his shit?

"unlike every strong ninja Madara has no weaknesses" - Masashi Kishimoto. Now I'ma let you process that line for a good minute.
 

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And boom. That's pretty much all you need to know who wins and who loses. Look at it from the writer's perspective, who do you think kishimoto would have win? A 30 yr old clown obito or A legend like madara who taught obito his shit?

"unlike every strong ninja Madara has no weaknesses" - Masashi Kishimoto. Now I'ma let you process that line for a good minute.

Obito is no longer the "clown" he was when he was a child.

As i said to the other guy, Give me a jutsu that madara has, that allows him to touch obito.
 

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Obito is no longer the "clown" he was when he was a child.

As i said to the other guy, Give me a jutsu that madara has, that allows him to touch obito.

Yes he is, he will always be a clown when you look at Madara. I don't have to give you shit, I let the author take care of it. He already told us who's superior
 

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Yes he is, he will always be a clown when you look at Madara. I don't have to give you shit, I let the author take care of it. He already told us who's superior

No he hasn't.
All he said is that he has no weakness, Doesn't say anything about madara being superior, Nor that he's unbeatable.
 

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No he hasn't.
All he said is that he has no weakness, Doesn't say anything about madara being superior, Nor that he's unbeatable.

lol are u fking kidding? im out
 

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Obito has a 5 minute limit for Kamui. Madara certainly has the firepower to pound Obito for more than 5 minutes non-stop.
 

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lol are u fking kidding? im out

he is correct no weaknesses doesn't necessarily = unbeatable

nagatos weakness was mobility if he had mobility he would have no weaknesses but im sure you would still say madara would win high difficulty

i hope you see the point im trying to make
 

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he is correct no weaknesses doesn't necessarily = unbeatable

nagatos weakness was mobility if he had mobility he would have no weaknesses but im sure you would still say madara would win high difficulty

i hope you see the point im trying to make

Son have you read the manga? Because if you did kishimoto's line about Madara makes perfect sense. It's simple he can't be beat. By saying he has no weaknesses he's saying he's unbeatable. "ah but every strong ninja has a weakness" that was itachi's line implying even powerful opponents can be beat, but when Kishi is telling you unlike every other strong ninja Madara has no weaknesses he's basically telling you he has no weak spots. If he has no weak spots it means you can't get to him, you can't beat him. Now it's obvious Madara will be beat due to the plot but his point is very clear- He is the strongest out of everyone in the series by FAR.

As a matter of fact I didn't need kishimoto to tell me that, I already knew, his interview just confirmed it for me.
 
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Son have you read the manga? Because if you did kishimoto's line about Madara makes perfect sense. It's simple he can't be beat. By saying he has no weaknesses he's saying he's unbeatable. "ah but every strong ninja has a weakness" that was itachi's line implying even powerful opponents can be beat, but when Kishi is telling you unlike every other strong ninja Madara has no weaknesses he's basically telling you he has no weak spots. If he has no weak spots it means you can't get to him, you can't beat him. Now it's obvious Madara will be beat due to the plot but his point is very clear- He is the strongest out of everyone in the series by FAR.

i can asure you i know much more about naruto then you

Kishimoto said most ninja have weaknesses madara does not ... and?

Madara from what we have seen would get killed by celestial tera blast and he cannot counter from what we have seen obito s/t those aren't weaknesses now dont get me wrong i think madara would beat obito high difficulty but saying he is far above the other rinnegan users is incorrect at best
 

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i can asure you i know much more about naruto then you

Kishimoto said most ninja have weaknesses madara does not ... and?

Madara from what we have seen would get killed by celestial tera blast and he cannot counter from what we have seen obito s/t those aren't weaknesses now dont get me wrong i think madara would beat obito high difficulty but saying he is far above the other rinnegan users is incorrect at best

See I already know you're not too smart. Telling me Chibaku tensei would contain Madara... oh man LOL. Madara with one swing of susano would destroy that shit.Your point.... not proven.

Madara has the Eien Mangekyo sharingan, the rinnegan, mastery of mokuton, decades of experience, incredible amount of knowledge. Your other rinnegan users not named Rikudou sennin would get manhandled. It wouldn't be a challenge.
 

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This is The most stupid thing i ve ever heard if what you said is true Then The five minuites Limit isn't a problem for obito after all , all he has to do is go Ghost mode and solidify underground but he can't do that its just like with minato s kunai he can't soilidify while a object Is passing through him and if you say susanoo has No space inside only for madara and Only madara can decide if someone can enter in susanoo Or not obito would get crushed in seconds if he got Solidifyed in susanoo its Like him making his hand solid through wall his hand would be crushed in seconds not to mention susanoo is harder than a wall So your theory is completly wrong anyway nice try
 

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See I already know you're not too smart. Telling me Chibaku tensei would contain Madara... oh man LOL. Madara with one swing of susano would destroy that shit.Your point.... not proven.

Madara has the Eien Mangekyo sharingan, the rinnegan, mastery of mokuton, decades of experience, incredible amount of knowledge. Your other rinnegan users not named Rikudou sennin would get manhandled. It wouldn't be a challenge.

Yet everytime i ask, you fail to give me any jutsu that madara has that can touch obito.
 

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It does make him almost completely untouchable, it's simply a fact.

Yet again you failed to raise any valid points, Only 3 known counters to obito's S/T, beingable to controll 6 billion paper bombs, Having an intentious S/T jutsu of your own Or having kamui.

Befor calling others stupid, you should be able to come up with a decent counter iargument, You've came up with nothing. Do you have any valid arguments on how madara defeats kamui, or you just another person who think madara wins, just because he is madara?

man ive shown you many ways of countering but you ignore them all, and all you say back is obito has kamui so he cant be touched and can warp madara away, just because those 3 techs are the only counters SHOWN that makes you think they are the only possible counters? thats a bit narrow minded, and you clearly forget about foo and torune who managed direct contact and obito lost an arm. the main consistancy that i want to point out is that all of obitos opponents have landed hits minato, foo and torune, konan and now naruto all countered after understanding obitos power and you think madara who already knows obitos techs wont?

1) obito can only stay intangible for five minutes at a time , i think the combination of amaterasu and perfect susanoo would be enough to keep obito busy for five minutess and then what? obito would have to use izanagi and give up kamui then what? please tell me how obito could beat madara without kamui?

2) warping madara isnt enough to kill him, so even if obito warped madara to his dimension he would still have to kill him, how would he do so?what if madara replaced himself with a clone, and obito warped said madara clone into his other dimension thinking it was the real madara itd be game over because madara could attack him in both dimensions.

not to mention madara has izanagi and izanami as well as tsukuyomi which all can possibly dispose of obito, but im sure that you will say everything i just said is invalid right?
 
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