Why Obito totally roflstomps Madara

[Exaar]

Everyone should know Obito > Madara, Madara hasn't shown any speed feats to even come close touching obito.

 

[yondaime4]

Bar Kotoamatsukami, Sharingan genjutsu or tsukuyomi is useless against a Uchiha MS user. And you also forget that Obito can do genjutsu as well, he even managed to control a Perfect Jinchuriki with it

you spout pure nonsense bro. tsukuyomi takes seconds to effect the victem so if obito is caught his ms wont save him he is still going to take damage

 

[Bogard]

Everyone should know Obito > Madara, Madara hasn't shown any speed feats to even come close touching obito.

I know, but there is too much Madara fanboys who can't accept the truth U_U

 

[Exaar]

you spout pure nonsense bro. tsukuyomi takes seconds to effect the victem so if obito is caught his ms wont save him he is still going to take damage

No.

Only itachi's take second because he is an expert in Genjutsu.

Not all uchiha's tsukuyomi are as powerful as itachi's.

 

[Midday]

the op says obito can beat madara edo or not so take that up wit boggy



ill agree med diff, sure naruto is stronger but the kages imo are stronger than kakashi and guy. which levels it a bit but again ill just agree with you.

k so zetsu was around obito when he unlocked kamui and is know for recording battles so its safe to assume madara knows all about it. madara knowing obitos tech means nothing because he cant counter it? soo the only counters to kamui are the ones shown already and nothing else? lol thats a narrow minded assumption. first clones as i said many times would be a good counter. or genjutsu since obito would have to look at madara to warp him, but im sure madara would have an even better idea

About the counters to Obito's Kaumi, it doesn't have to be what we've seen but something of the same Nature and Madara's shown nothing like that. Naruto tried clones on Obito which he dealt with fairly well with the fan and he can handle multiple opponents at once, a tbb should clear all clones as well. Genjutsu shouldn't work on Obito because of sharringan resistance and he would be able to break any genjutus Madara uses.

 

[shelke]

Your hate on the character is too great that you even have to contradict the manga itself to try to prove your point. It's not me who says Itachi has lower chakra than Kakashi. It's kishimoto. That's why he only has 2.5/5 in stamina when Kakashi has 3/5 in stamina. Whether you like it or not it's the truth. Now you can continue your hate if you want, but simply deal with it

Righhht. Because Chakra and Stamina are totally the same thing. Wait...

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- Naruto and Sasuke’s Chakra

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- Stamina

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- Chakra uses spiritual energy

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- Naruto talking about focusing his chakra during the fight.

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- Orochimaru talking about sucking out physical and spiritual power, aka Stamina/strength and Chakra.

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- Kiba focuses his chakra on his nose for the ability.

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- Sasuke copying Lee’s speed uses up a lot of stamina not chakra.
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- Kakashi talking about Naruto’s Stamina and his Chakra.

Ninjutsu and Genjutsu directly effect Chakra NOT stamina. And Itachi has plenty of it because he spams Tsukiyomi even if it puts so much stress on his body and uses a large amount of Chakra.

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- Itachi has enough Chakra reserves even though MS puts a stress on his body and spiritual energy/ Chakra.

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- MS technique Tsukiyomi uses a considerable amount of chakra, and yet, Itachi pretty much spams it.

Not to mention he only used 30% of his chakra during his infamous fight with Kakshi and Naruto and still managed to cast a perfect genjutsu. So now, you are above manga facts.

 

[Bogard]

Not to mention he only used 30% of his chakra during his infamous fight with Kakshi and Naruto and still managed to cast a perfect genjutsu. So now, you are above manga facts.

Re-read the manga. Itachi with 30% of his chakra stated that he couldn't use MS techniques, which shows that his chakra is low since he needs at the very least more than 30% of his chakra to actually use one MS technique. During that fight how much jutsus was he able to use? I think he used the finger genjutsu and a sharingan genjutsu and it's all. After that he stated that the chakra run out. 2minor genjutsus took 30% of his chakra?

 

[yondaime4]

No.

Only itachi's take second because he is an expert in Genjutsu.

Not all uchiha's tsukuyomi are as powerful as itachi's.

and of the ninjas as powerful as itachi you dont think madara counts? this is the ish im talkin about, madara is the STRONGEST uchiha ever.Yall think since obito has a wicked jutsu, thats makes him the end all be all. you all forget that madara lived in an age of war battleing dudes like hashi on the regular, and think about how powerful sasuke gets from fighting tough people, and times it by 10. i agree kamui is really dope, for dodging and stealthy stuff, but in a straight up fight all it is good for is defense and its not a perfect defense at that imo. and madara clearly showed obito is tsukuyomi as an old man, you dont think he has had enough time to perfect it? cmon man

About the counters to Obito's Kaumi, it doesn't have to be what we've seen but something of the same Nature and Madara's shown nothing like that. Naruto tried clones on Obito which he dealt with fairly well with the fan and he can handle multiple opponents at once, a tbb should clear all clones as well. Genjutsu shouldn't work on Obito because of sharringan resistance and he would be able to break any genjutus Madara uses.

kk this comment is a bit ridiculous for a few reason, and before i get into it, Ill let you know that after this im going to play fifa because you guys are hopeless.

madara hasnt shown jutsu of what nature?

his mokutan is op, he could attack obito with a forest full of that pollen that would put obito to sleep, or attack with a large amount of wood like when narutos clone borrowed kuramas chakra and used all of it just to stop madaras jutsu not to mention his sharingan and rinnegan jutsus which im sure are way stronger.

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obito can only dodge for so long as all of his opponents have shown us. and obito had to use MADARAS fan to stop narutos clones, now what about madaras clones plus madara would have the fan because it is his fan,so the tbb would be sent back at him since madara can use the fan way better than obito. so how would obito defend? obito can handle multiple opponents sure if by handle you mean dodge and not land an fatal blow on any of them and madara on the other hand.... well enough said

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and finally genjutsu wouldnt work because obito can break any genjutsu? madara has ems and rinnegan both on another level to obitos sharingan and not even that, as sasuke proved against danzo its not about the jutsu its about the user and how its used, madara whether you want to agree or not has the best mastery of the sharingan in the naruto series, obito is not just going to break out of his genjutsu.

 

[Bogard]

and of the ninjas as powerful as itachi you dont think madara counts? this is the ish im talkin about, madara is the STRONGEST uchiha ever.Yall think since obito has a wicked jutsu, thats makes him the end all be all. you all forget that madara lived in an age of war battleing dudes like hashi on the regular, and think about how powerful sasuke gets from fighting tough people, and times it by 10. i agree kamui is really dope, for dodging and stealthy stuff, but in a straight up fight all it is good for is defense and its not a perfect defense at that imo. and madara clearly showed obito is tsukuyomi as an old man, you dont think he has had enough time to perfect it? cmon man

Rectification: Obito is the strongest Uchiha ever. Itachi stated in part1 that his tsukuyomi was useless against a Uchiha with MS(probably even mentioning Obito that time), and Itachis tsukiyomi >>>>> Madaras

 

[The God]

he cant kamui a complete susanoo

 

[yondaime4]

Rectification: Obito is the strongest Uchiha ever. Itachi stated in part1 that his tsukuyomi was useless against a Uchiha with MS(probably even mentioning Obito that time), and Itachis tsukiyomi >>>>> Madaras

lol i like how you make a comment at me after i say im leaving. but no obito is not the strongest, thats your opinion, madara being the strongest is a FACT as it has been stated many times, and where is this statement from itachi? please bring it up for me i dont want to go looking for a random comment. how can you say itachis tsukuyomi is better when you havent seen the extent of madaras? thats a bit near sited, madara battled the strongest of shinobi and also has an ems which alone probably makes his tsukuyomi stronger, but has also been using his eyes for over a century while itachi was what 25 or 26 when he died?

 

[Exaar]

and of the ninjas as powerful as itachi you dont think madara counts? this is the ish im talkin about, madara is the STRONGEST uchiha ever.Yall think since obito has a wicked jutsu, thats makes him the end all be all. you all forget that madara lived in an age of war battleing dudes like hashi on the regular, and think about how powerful sasuke gets from fighting tough people, and times it by 10. i agree kamui is really dope, for dodging and stealthy stuff, but in a straight up fight all it is good for is defense and its not a perfect defense at that imo. and madara clearly showed obito is tsukuyomi as an old man, you dont think he has had enough time to perfect it? cmon man

Madara living through a War and fighting shinobi like hashirama means F all against obito.

Also Obito's S/T is an almost perfect defense, For only those who have access to S/T Jutsu's on the same level at FTG or have kamui can actually harm obito.

Even Bm naruto's/v2 Raikage's speed levels arn't enough to touch him, So i would like to see how madara is going to do it, Also Minato who has inhuman reflexes barely escaped obito's warping with FTG.
I would love to see how madara escapes an almost instant warp.

 

[shelke]

Re-read the manga. Itachi with 30% of his chakra stated that he couldn't use MS techniques, which shows that his chakra is low since he needs at the very least more than 30% of his chakra to actually use one MS technique. During that fight how much jutsus was he able to use? I think he used the finger genjutsu and a sharingan genjutsu and it's all. After that he stated that the chakra run out. 2minor genjutsus took 30% of his chakra?

Minor genjustus? lol You obviously know more than the man who wrote the manga man, when even he never implied how powerful or not powerful the technique were. Stop replying. You are beginning to get seriously annoying. Itachi >>> Kakashi. Is there a problem? Now rage away like the fanboy that you are.

 

[cLang cLang]

Madara roflrape's Obito.

 

[Bogard]

Minor genjustus? lol You obviously know more than the man who wrote the manga man, when even he never implied how powerful or not powerful the technique were. Stop replying. You are beginning to get seriously annoying. Itachi >>> Kakashi. Is there a problem? Now rage away like the fanboy that you are.

Again, read before posting craps. I never stated the contrary. I know Itachi is stronger than Kakashi, what i'm saying is that Kakashi has more stamina than him. Anyway stop talking about Kakashi or Itachi in a Obito and Madara thread

 

[shelke]

Rectification: Obito is the strongest Uchiha ever. Itachi stated in part1 that his tsukuyomi was useless against a Uchiha with MS(probably even mentioning Obito that time), and Itachis tsukiyomi >>>>> Madaras

Now that bogard has said so, it's a proof people. **** manga.

 

[shelke]

Maybe you should follow your own advise, Bogard?

Your hate on the character is too great that you even have to contradict the manga itself to try to prove your point. It's not me who says Itachi has lower chakra than Kakashi. It's kishimoto. That's why he only has 2.5/5 in stamina when Kakashi has 3/5 in stamina. Whether you like it or not it's the truth. Now you can continue your hate if you want, but simply deal with it

lol

 

[Kira was Righteous]

No one not even the sage of 6 paths would stomp Madara

Out of thousands of people in Naruto i can think of three people who could beat him hes that haxxed

 

[Bogard]

No one not even the sage of 6 paths would stomp Madara

Out of thousands of people in Naruto i can think of three people who could beat him hes that haxxed

Is Nagato one of the 3?

 

[LolaxXx]

Bar Kotoamatsukami, Sharingan genjutsu or tsukuyomi is useless against a Uchiha MS user. And you also forget that Obito can do genjutsu as well, he even managed to control a Perfect Jinchuriki with it

Its not entirely useless, if someone can OVER power them with their own, EMS beat MS. MAdara, and expert on sharingan in general, beat all other MS.
If he was able to control a perfect jinchuuriki with just ONE MS, Madara would be able to with two EMS...its logic.