Why Obito totally roflstomps Madara

[Bogard]

We all know that based on feats, Madara has absolutely nothing that could touch Obito if he teleport his body in his dimension, but that's not all. Kakashi said something really interesting concerning Obitos power.

He explained here that Obito can infact decide which part of his body he send in the other dimension:

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This means that for example, sending his whole body in the other dimension and teleporting back his hand in our actual dimension is simple for him. That means that defending yourself against Obito is totally meaningless. Whether it's Susanoo or Perfect Susanoo, he could easily phase through it and absorb Madara

These are the only way to defeat Obito:
- Find a way to attack him when he is in the other dimension, and this is only possible via Kakashis Kamui
- Being faster and have a better timing than him, so that you can be able to counter-attack directly at the moment he attacks and this is only possible by someone like Minato. Not even Naruto was able to do so

Madara is not as fast as Minato, he doesn't also possess Kamui, so how can he defeat Obito? Like i've said, defending yourself is meaningless against Obito. You must actually manage to move on your own, and create a perfect timing in a taijutsu fight to have a chance. So if Madara wants to fight Obito, Susanoo or other stuff will only be a waste of chakra. He will have to enter close combat if he wants to have a chance to win. Problem is that Naruto is superior to him in this category and not even him was able to deal with Obito alone. He actually needed help:

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In terms of tactical fight and speed, Obito has shown impressiv skills. He can purposely decide to disappear through the rock and surprise the ennemy:

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Even someone as fast as Naruto can be surprised like you can see on the pic. The only thing that saved him was his sensing abilities, something that Madara doesn't possess. Obito has shown to be able to deal with 3powerful in-fighters at the same time, so it's not Madara who could have a chance in this category either.

That's why i believe that Obito is stronger than every version of Madara. Edo or not, he would end his life in the other dimension if he wants to fight Obito

 

[History]

edo madara is unbeatable obito cannot handle an army of susanoos clones with rinnegan perfect susanoo or shira tensei>s/t shira T would blow him away perfect to high of a jutsu for him to warp if he warp himself on top of it he will just fall right through it and madara can use mokuton pollen to put him to sleep once his bijuu are down he has no way of destroying mokuton and his 5 minutes will run out

madara chakra is unlimited he cannot lose a fight its just impossible

 

[oShux]

Madara was able to go toe to toe with hashirama he's also smart he can figure a way but obito would most def give him a challenge

 

[oShux]

edo madara is unbeatable obito cannot handle an army of susanoos clones with rinnegan perfect susanoo or shira tensei>s/t shira T would blow him away perfect to high of a jutsu for him to warp if he warp himself on top of it he will just fall right through it and madara can use mokuton pollen to put him to sleep once his bijuu are down he has no way of destroying mokuton and his 5 minutes will run out

madara chakra is unlimited he cannot lose a fight its just impossible

We're not talking about edo madara

 

[natssuu]

Technically Madara can create millions of PS Susano'o clones.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Obito>madara

 

[Narukarin16]

You may be right, kishi has made the main villians unbeatable.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

They would never be able to lay a hit on each other.

 

[shelke]

My god...Kamui the answer to everything, just like that kakashi thread. The fact that Obito has nothing else going for him except this and that he can only keep a certain portion of his body intangible - in motion (forward) or being still - says a lot. While Madara in non-edo form has EMS + Rinnegan. He can switch back and forth between both at will, also has a perfect sussano and years of war experience. Obito's MS and Rinnegan eye is otherwise useless, because you need a pair for the latter. And the fact that Obito was shaking in his boots when he saw Madara's body pretty much is a thread closing point.

 

[yondaime4]

this again? really? if obito phases through susanoo, your sayin obito can stay intangible and warp madara away? its one or the other he cant do both.

naruto is better taijutsu than madara? really? madara lived in batttle and went head on with hashi on the regular. i think its easy to tell he has better taijutsu than naruto.

not to mention madara is responsible for most of obitos abilities minus kamui. madara would ruin obito no matter how you look at it.

but you made this argumwnt before got shut down and here you are again. i can only assume that your going to keep making these stupid argumwnts so i guess my words dont matter

 

[yondaime4]

how would obito beat madara if madara was too fast to be caught in kamui and made say 5 clones with susanoo? kamui right?

 

[Midday]

how would obito beat madara if madara was too fast to be caught in kamui and made say 5 clones with susanoo? kamui right?

Since when is Madara too fast for Kaumi. It's a fact that Obito's space time jutsu hasn't been stopped unless you have your own space time jutsu or Kaumi. Naruto, Kakshi, Guy and Bee couldn't trouble Obito till he pulled out Kaumi. What makes you think Madara can do it alone, he isn't superior to that combination when it comes to landing a hit.

 

[shelke]

this again? really? if obito phases through susanoo, your sayin obito can stay intangible and warp madara away? its one or the other he cant do both.

naruto is better taijutsu than madara? really? madara lived in batttle and went head on with hashi on the regular. i think its easy to tell he has better taijutsu than naruto.

not to mention madara is responsible for most of obitos abilities minus kamui. madara would ruin obito no matter how you look at it.

but you made this argumwnt before got shut down and here you are again. i can only assume that your going to keep making these stupid argumwnts so i guess my words dont matter

This guy is a barrel full of laughs. Not only is Sussano a manifestation of Chakra, and not a physical object, but Naruto being better at Taijutsu than Madara just takes the cake. And that too without any proof but pulls from places. This is what I call insufferable fanboyism. You should look at his points about Itachi having far less chakra than kakashi. LMFAO

 

[LolaxXx]

he can put him in a genjutsu...done deal. Madara's EMS is far stronger than Obito's ONE MS. Taijutsu isnt the ONLY way to defeat him.
Madara already knows how Obito's space-time jutsu works, or at least knows how Obito can use it, so he already has counter measures, and he already knows what Obito is capable of. I mean, If Obio decided to betray Madara, what then would Madara do?
EMS, over powers One MS anyday.

 

[yondaime4]

This guy is a barrel full of laughs. Not only is Sussano a manifestation of Chakra, and not a physical object, but Naruto being better at Taijutsu than Madara just takes the cake. And that too without any proof but pulls from places. This is what I call insufferable fanboyism. You should look at his points about Itachi having far less chakra than kakashi. LMFAO

hahahaha when i read any of boggys comments i have to laugh

Since when is Madara too fast for Kaumi. It's a fact that Obito's space time jutsu hasn't been stopped unless you have your own space time jutsu or Kaumi. Naruto, Kakshi, Guy and Bee couldn't trouble Obito till he pulled out Kaumi. What makes you think Madara can do it alone, he isn't superior to that combination when it comes to landing a hit.

bro madara took on the 5 kage at low to med diff, and ill agree naruto and co are probably stronger but the gap isnt that big imo,and you think madara is just going to stand there and be kamuied?

madara knows about obitos kamui first of all, which means he would already have a plan of attack. the clones would also help this plan as obito wouldnt have time to kamui madara while hes dodging a few susanoos.
you havent even seen madara get serious but obito took a resangen to the face and had all his bijuu rendered useless and had to summon juubi.

obito is madaras sidekick/bitch and imo obito beating madara is like robin beating batman

 

[LolaxXx]

hahahaha when i read any of boggys comments i have to laugh



bro madara took on the 5 kage at low to med diff, and ill agree naruto and co are probably stronger but the gap isnt that big imo,and you think madara is just going to stand there and be kamuied?

madara knows about obitos kamui first of all, which means he would already have a plan of attack. the clones would also help this plan as obito wouldnt have time to kamui madara while hes dodging a few susanoos.
you havent even seen madara get serious but obito took a resangen to the face and had all his bijuu rendered useless and had to summon juubi.

obito is madaras sidekick/bitch and imo obito beating madara is like robin beating batman

A undead, infinite chakra, regenrating non-dying never tiring, Hashirama DNA madara beat the 5 kage. Not madara with his own power.
Its like playing a game with infite ammo and lives, no matter how hard the difficulty, u can still beat the game easy,.

 

[Bogard]

he can put him in a genjutsu...done deal. Madara's EMS is far stronger than Obito's ONE MS. Taijutsu isnt the ONLY way to defeat him

Bar Kotoamatsukami, Sharingan genjutsu or tsukuyomi is useless against a Uchiha MS user. And you also forget that Obito can do genjutsu as well, he even managed to control a Perfect Jinchuriki with it

 

[Midday]

bro madara took on the 5 kage at low to med diff, and ill agree naruto and co are probably stronger but the gap isnt that big imo,and you think madara is just going to stand there and be kamuied?

madara knows about obitos kamui first of all, which means he would already have a plan of attack. the clones would also help this plan as obito wouldnt have time to kamui madara while hes dodging a few susanoos.
you havent even seen madara get serious but obito took a resangen to the face and had all his bijuu rendered useless and had to summon juubi.

obito is madaras sidekick/bitch and imo obito beating madara is like robin beating batman

Madara took them down med diff I would say, it was anything but low diff since he was using his best techniques. Also how can you say there's isn't much of a gap between team Naruto and the kages when Naruto can solo, numbers aren't an issue because of his clones which they can not handle.

Madara doesn't know Obito's techniques that well, Obito unlocked ms outside the cave, when he got back Madara showed him a few techniques in genjutsu and died. It also doesn't matter if he knows it or not, he has nothing that can counter it. It takes ftg, kaumi or 10 mins non stop paper bombs to hit Obito and Madara has none of the above.

 

[Bogard]

This guy is a barrel full of laughs. Not only is Sussano a manifestation of Chakra, and not a physical object, but Naruto being better at Taijutsu than Madara just takes the cake. And that too without any proof but pulls from places. This is what I call insufferable fanboyism. You should look at his points about Itachi having far less chakra than kakashi. LMFAO

Your hate on the character is too great that you even have to contradict the manga itself to try to prove your point. It's not me who says Itachi has lower chakra than Kakashi. It's kishimoto. That's why he only has 2.5/5 in stamina when Kakashi has 3/5 in stamina. Whether you like it or not it's the truth. Now you can continue your hate if you want, but simply deal with it

 

[yondaime4]

A undead, infinite chakra, regenrating non-dying never tiring, Hashirama DNA madara beat the 5 kage. Not madara with his own power.
Its like playing a game with infite ammo and lives, no matter how hard the difficulty, u can still beat the game easy,.

the op says obito can beat madara edo or not so take that up wit boggy

Madara took them down med diff I would say, it was anything but low diff since he was using his best techniques. Also how can you say there's isn't much of a gap between team Naruto and the kages when Naruto can solo, numbers aren't an issue because of his clones which they can not handle.

Madara doesn't know Obito's techniques that well, Obito unlocked ms outside the cave, when he got back Madara showed him a few techniques in genjutsu and died. It also doesn't matter if he knows it or not, he has nothing that can counter it. It takes ftg, kaumi or 10 mins non stop paper bombs to hit Obito and Madara has none of the above.

ill agree med diff, sure naruto is stronger but the kages imo are stronger than kakashi and guy. which levels it a bit but again ill just agree with you.

k so zetsu was around obito when he unlocked kamui and is know for recording battles so its safe to assume madara knows all about it. madara knowing obitos tech means nothing because he cant counter it? soo the only counters to kamui are the ones shown already and nothing else? lol thats a narrow minded assumption. first clones as i said many times would be a good counter. or genjutsu since obito would have to look at madara to warp him, but im sure madara would have an even better idea