Why Naruto and Hashirama are greater leaders

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Tobirama was the best Hokage, he didn't let his emotions cloud his judgement and maintained the peace between the clans of the village, whilst building much of it's current infrastructure.

He was like the hitler of narutoverse. NO
 

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J-man??? He was goofy also thats basically where naruto get his traits from
Yea but thats why he has a advisor...all leaders have advisors. Hashi and naruto are goofy but get serious when they need to
please give 16 years old naruto credit for his intelligence and personality...also tsunade exelent example that funny personality not equals stupidity.
 

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Was it not Hashirama who saw that in order to stop the war people will need to form an alliance, which will ulitmatly lead to an cycle, hence stopping the wars.. Was it not Hashirama who gathered the clans? Oh yes it was Hashirama.

Hashirama was the beast when he needed to. Please understand your own quote you presented deeply and then try to apply it to the characters. :)



In the end, they were all kept in check by Hashirama. He acted playful, because he could. He did not care for them being the Kages.. he was glad that they even came together with him. Just switch Tobirama with him.. and see if we even get to the Gokage conference. :)

Exactly...no other kage would try to get everone together...it would prolly still be separate clans instead of villages
 

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J-man??? He was goofy also thats basically where naruto get his traits from

But when he needed that seriousness , he had it & it was shown .

I don't buy Hashimara as a leader , judging by that summit the guy lacks it (not a firm or smart hand)+ Tobi was around to help him too . but when it comes to this two, Naruto is better i guess . (but still not a great one )
 

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please give 16 years old naruto credit for his intelligence and personality...also tsunade exelent example that funny personality not equals stupidity.

Yea i know naruto is intelligent and is growing...im saying naruto is gonna be a great leader but niggas beed to understand that he seventeen..
 

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But when he needed that seriousness , he had it & it was shown .

I don't buy Hashimara as a leader , judging by that summit the guy lacks it (not a firm or smart hand) but when it comes to this two, Naruto is better i guess . (but still not a great one )
The guy who said Yahiko's ideals are good while Naruto's ideals are garbage.. even though they are the same..
 

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Sorry but I have to disagree with this thread . Hashirama and Naruto would not be great leaders . True that they are mature , but they still are way too soft . I mean , Naruto is forgiving Obito who killed his parents , while Hashirama still "considers" Madara as a friend .
 

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Feared only for his fighting prowess. If he only had political prowess no one would listen to him.
 

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But when he needed that seriousness , he had it & it was shown .

I don't buy Hashimara as a leader , judging by that summit the guy lacks it (not a firm or smart hand) but when it comes to this two, Naruto is better i guess . (but still not a great one )

U dont understand why he slammed his head on the table lol...he slammed it cus them niggas were being stubborn and he wanted them to come together for peace...and notice he still got what he came to that summit for
 

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Sorry but I have to disagree with this thread . Hashirama and Naruto would not be great leaders . True that they are mature , but they still are way too soft . I mean , Naruto is forgiving Obito who killed his parents , while Hashirama still "considers" Madara as a friend .
Hashirama called Madara a "friend" in the aspect that he is from their time and they have fought time after time.. rofl. Did you see him going there to shake his hand and have some sake?

Naruto never forgave Obito, he already stated come to konoha and accept your punishments.

I think you guys are letting their playful attitude, that acts as an disguise to their seriousness , judge them wrong.
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He worked to be strongest.. because he knew that without strength political bs is just bs.
 

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Sorry but I have to disagree with this thread . Hashirama and Naruto would not be great leaders . True that they are mature , but they still are way too soft . I mean , Naruto is forgiving Obito who killed his parents , while Hashirama still "considers" Madara as a friend .
naruto not forgiving obito, hes just not want kill him
 

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The guy who said Yahiko's ideals are good while Naruto's ideals are garbage.. even though they are the same..

Yahiko had better understanding , they might have some similarities but not the same . That's why i like him better .

U dont understand why he slammed his head on the table lol...he slammed it cus them niggas were being stubborn and he wanted them to come together for peace...and notice he still got what he came to that summit for

I don't consider him a great leader ,sorry .
 

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Sorry but I have to disagree with this thread . Hashirama and Naruto would not be great leaders . True that they are mature , but they still are way too soft . I mean , Naruto is forgiving Obito who killed his parents , while Hashirama still "considers" Madara as a friend .

U wont never get to peace considering people as ur enemy and going around killing those people is no better
 

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Yahiko had better understanding , they might have some similarities but not the same . That's why i like him better .

Yes.. because Naruto doesn't understand that Obito even if he becomes good will need to be punished.. even though he was the one to state this. Wasn't Yahiko the guy who commit suicide.. in the end soft as Naruto.

No point trying to make pointless excuses, when their ideals are copies of each other.
 

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He was like the hitler of narutoverse. NO

Oh? Please tell me how Tobirama murdered his own villagers and enslaved other nation's individuals whilst starting war?

If you haven't got anything worthwhile saying, don't say anything at all.

Tobirama maintained peace within Konoha and died for his own subordinates.
 

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Yes.. because Naruto doesn't understand that Obito even if he becomes good will need to be punished.. even though he was the one to state this. Wasn't Yahiko the guy who commit suicide.. in the end soft as Naruto.

No point trying to make pointless excuses, when their ideals are copies of each other.

Soft ? he wanted to save Konan & Nagato , he made a decision to save his people .
I'm not making excuses , I just prefer Yahiko over Naruto .
 

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Yes.. because Naruto doesn't understand that Obito even if he becomes good will need to be punished.. even though he was the one to state this. Wasn't Yahiko the guy who commit suicide.. in the end soft as Naruto.

No point trying to make pointless excuses, when their ideals are copies of each other.
but naruto never commit suicide like yahiko
 
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