Why Nagato>Hashirama

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He doesn't make life, he just empties his chakra into the technique. The MANGA has told us that it is just ninjutsu - Doton, Suiton etc. Mokuton is just made up of his chakra. Where's your proof? preta Path absorbs all chakra regardless of its form. Kimimaro's bone gets absorbed, he's just using his chakra to make more bones, which is just ninjutsu. The meteor was because of Bansho tenin, so of course it wouldn't get absorbed.
So the trees that he makes aren't life? Yeah I think you may need to relearn first grade science.
 

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When did I say preta path couldn't absorb solid objects? Quote my exact comment. Hashirama uses his chakra and lifeforce to make life. Actual life. Hashirama then keeps using his lifeforce to make the trees grow and move. It's just like how kimimaros bones can't be absorbed or madaras meteor.


Ah I see. The degree of being an idiot that you just showed far surpasses anyone I have ever seen. So can preta path absorb shinra tensei or madaras meteor.

Im not gonna lie i dont know about shinra tensei or madara meteor. Since we havent been given any info on the meteor i believe its just Banshō Ten'in pulling a meteor from the sky.
 

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Didn't i say i wish we could see more of him. I don't overrate Hashirama like the Hashi fanboys. I just state whatever i feel. EMS Madara alone is a threat to the ninja world. I'm just trying to scale them based on powers and intelligence. Hashirama was no fool and he was strong both mentally and physically. Jiraiya alone could have defeated Pain if he knew his secrets, but he didn't have knowledge and time to defeat him. Hashirama could most likely defeat him given the facts that he experienced war and outmaneuvered anyone he faced in battle. I believe Hashirama takes this, but with difficulty. Hashirama doesn't need Tail Beast, Sharingan, Rinnegan, or any of that mumbo jumbo to be strong. He fights on natural talent alone.

If you feel like hashirama would win i can respect that cuz its your opinion just like i believe nagato could beat hashirama. Now my point is from what we know about their abilities nagato has a counter for every one of hashirama abilites shown. Finally people think so highly of him and they havent even seen anything to base it off. We dont know the details of the fight with madara at the valley of the end, we dont know how he actually control tailed beast cuz we havent seen him do it. And if anyone read the databook it states he died in battle before the first ninja war so he is beatable.
 

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Wow really? They mention his creation of tress which is chakra converted into the source of life. We know the classification of the jutsu. Why are you being so ignorant?

No manga pages. MANGA > YOU.

So the trees that he makes aren't life? Yeah I think you may need to relearn first grade science.

You're actually so dumb. They describe the trees as alive because they're, you know, trees. Nice to know you think hashirama is God, you idiot.
 

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No manga pages. MANGA > YOU.



You're actually so dumb. They describe the trees as alive because they're, you know, trees. Nice to know you think hashirama is God, you idiot.
Concession accepted. I know your a troll but please at least use common sense. You are dismissed. I won't listen to your fanboy logic any further
 

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So the trees that he makes aren't life? Yeah I think you may need to relearn first grade science.

So do you honestly think his kekkei genkai ninjutsu wont be absorb by nagato?
 

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Concession accepted. I know your a troll but please at least use common sense. You are dismissed. I won't listen to your fanboy logic any further

Yes, that's what happens when idiots run out of dumb things to say.
 

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No manga pages. MANGA > YOU.



You're actually so dumb. They describe the trees as alive because they're, you know, trees. Nice to know you think hashirama is God, you idiot.

I'm just gonna do like your signature. I'm gonna slap my butt in your face meaning your opinion at this point is shit. I know the Manga has more knowledge than me, but you state that i don't read the Manga at all. That is so low opinionated of you to say. I read the manga every week and i make possible scenarios and assumptions for what's to come. People applaud my opinions whether it was really creative or bad. You are a persistent troll that has nothing good to say. If you were trying to say Manga> You that's fine, but you said something completely different. I agree the Manga has more knowledge to offer than me, but i have knowledge about the Manga itself, so next time write something with better meaning.
 

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So nagato absorbs the trees? By your logic he can absorb kimimaros bones too
were you joking

there is a difference unlike kimimaro's bones, wood release is based on nature manipulation by the earth and water nature type.

kimimaro bones kg is not from nature types but is a genetic heritage like the sharingan if your going to use the kimimaro example then it won't work since it's not a ninjutsu unlike wood release which is a ninjutsu.

but if the preta path touched kimimaro he would still be able to get chakra out the person like naruto who also has life but he sucking the chakra.
 

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Holy shit people, Nagato >>>>>>>>>> Hashirama, low diff. Why? Nagato can fly, how the hell will Hashi EVER hit him?

Though I posted a valid point, Nagato will beat Hashi high diff on the ground.
 

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Holy shit people, Nagato >>>>>>>>>> Hashirama, low diff. Why? Nagato can fly, how the hell will Hashi EVER hit him?

Though I posted a valid point, Nagato will beat Hashi high diff on the ground.

We didn't see him fly in the air like Onoki. Low difficulty your opinion.
 

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I'm just gonna do like your signature. I'm gonna slap my butt in your face meaning your opinion at this point is shit. I know the Manga has more knowledge than me, but you state that i don't read the Manga at all. That is so low opinionated of you to say. I read the manga every week and i make possible scenarios and assumptions for what's to come. People applaud my opinions whether it was really creative or bad. You are a persistent troll that has nothing good to say. If you were trying to say Manga> You that's fine, but you said something completely different. I agree the Manga has more knowledge to offer than me, but i have knowledge about the Manga itself, so next time write something with better meaning.

You are an idiot. Mokuton = Suiton + Doton + Chakra. Canon. You actually said:

"I just state whatever i feel" - take your fanboy ass elsewhere.
 

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were you joking

there is a difference unlike kimimaro's bones, wood release is based on nature manipulation by the earth and water nature type.

kimimaro bones kg is not from nature types but is a genetic heritage like the sharingan if your going to use the kimimaro example then it won't work since it's not a ninjutsu unlike wood release which is a ninjutsu.

but if the preta path touched kimimaro he would still be able to get chakra out the person like naruto who also has life but he sucking the chakra.

Good point but i disagree. Since kimimaro infuses his bones with chakra and pulls them out his body i believe they can also be absorb.
 

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You are an idiot. Mokuton = Suiton + Doton + Chakra. Canon. You actually said:

"I just state whatever i feel" - take your fanboy ass elsewhere.

Are you using my words to attack me? What i meant with that statement is that i don't agree with all the people's view. If their is a big crowd that agrees that Nagato is better than Hashirama. I stay in the small crowd believing that Hashirama is better. Your a loser and dumbass using my words to make me feel inferior, how very weak of you. I make my own opinions and that means that i don't have to agree with the OT or anyone i don't feel in that matter. If someone beats me in a debate i admit defeat, but that's about it.
 

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So do you honestly think his kekkei genkai ninjutsu wont be absorb by nagato?
No I don't think that. Techs like amaterasu can he absorbed because its a chakra tech.
Do you think it can absorb shikas shadows, chojis expansion jutsu or inos mind transfer tech
?
 

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Good point but i disagree. Since kimimaro infuses his bones with chakra and pulls them out his body i believe they can also be absorb.

well either way it wouldn't matter since kimimaro is the main source of the chakra so the preta path would absorb kimimaro chakra anyway. since they are actually apart of kimimaro body and the preta path would take the chakra, kimimaro kg is just his bones and he puts chakra in them his calciumm so he can manipulate the bones.

so the preta path would still take chakra since that is still his body like sage mode naruto and if kimimaro cannot store enough chakra to keep that bone that size that bone kimimaro manipulated then would go back to it's normal size since the chakra in the calcium is not there for it to be that big.
 
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Are you using my words to attack me? What i meant with that statement is that i don't agree with all the people's view. If their is a big crowd that agrees that Nagato is better than Hashirama. I stay in the small crowd believing that Hashirama is better. Your a loser and dumbass using my words to make me feel inferior, how very weak of you. I make my own opinions and that means that i don't have to agree with the OT or anyone i don't feel in that matter. If someone beats me in a debate i admit defeat, but that's about it.

What? If you weren't such an idiot it wouldn't be so easy. I give you canon data, and you are a guy who says 'i just say what i feel', you are just biased and use no logic or reason, only what goes on in you fanboy head. Idiot.
 
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