Why Nagato>Hashirama

[sage22]

No form of nagato stands any chance against hashirama. How many times does kishi need to force feed us, who are the readers, information on hashirama.

What has HASHIRAMA showed you to make you think that.

 

[JaccuziSplot777]

First off u didnt say one single way of how he could beat nagato. Next how do u know nagato didnt know all the rinnagun abilities if u know some kishi hasnt told use please let me know. Finally the fight with madara has nothing to do with comparing nagato and hasirama so thank you your an idiot also.

I can tell u don't read the manga 1st off Tobi aka obito said nagato didn't known all of the rennigan secrets 2nd nagato a nobody until some1 gave him the rinnigan goin up against a legend the founder of kohona and feared by every village and controlled all the tailed beast and gave each one to every village...3rd the 1st can heal himself without hand seals a excellent wood user which he was the ONLY wood user knows every hand seal which the senju was known for in fact senju where known for hand seals and can live a very long life...went up against madara and the nine tails at the same time when nagato only seen 7 or 8 tails can't remember and madara said which madara is a kohona legend and co founder of the leaf said the 1st can only defeat him (madara)...don't get me wrong nagato was beast he's just not on the 1st level so stop being a nagato penis sucker and read and compare the facts....

 

[TheSages456]

What has HASHIRAMA showed you to make you think that.

Hashirama crushes him under a forest.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

TheSages456 is just a fanboy of Hashirama.

At OP, Nagato takes it with high difficulty.

 

[Midday]

What has HASHIRAMA showed you to make you think that.

Just his Hashirama fetish.

 

[Da second]

He himself had showed me Nothin but Danzo tobi and Madara have shown me that his cell heightin ur ablities. That say alot. He doesnt need the eyes he's got to b fast because of how highly Madara speaks of him and madara is the best at this point. That says alot and people

 

[sage22]

I can tell u don't read the manga 1st off Tobi aka obito said nagato didn't known all of the rennigan secrets 2nd nagato a nobody until some1 gave him the rinnigan goin up against a legend the founder of kohona and feared by every village and controlled all the tailed beast and gave each one to every village...3rd the 1st can heal himself without hand seals a excellent wood user which he was the ONLY wood user knows every hand seal which the senju was known for in fact senju where known for hand seals and can live a very long life...went up against madara and the nine tails at the same time when nagato only seen 7 or 8 tails can't remember and madara said which madara is a kohona legend and co founder of the leaf said the 1st can only defeat him (madara)...don't get me wrong nagato was beast he's just not on the 1st level so stop being a nagato penis sucker and read and compare the facts....

1st if u still think tobi is nagato then your surely an idiot. Next what chapter does tobi say nagato doesnt know all the rinnagun abilities. You still havent said one thing that hashirama could do that nagato couldnt stop.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

U asked why nagato couldnt handle the eight tails but nowhere has nagato and the eight tails been mention together. Not in the manga anime or this post so for you saying he couldnt take on the eight tails with no facts or even hype to back it up i call you stupid.

Did you see Naruto vs Pain? I just wanna know if you did. Nagato failed to trapped Naruto in Chibaku Tensei in his eight-tails form. He realized he had to make the sphere larger, but he didn't have time. Your stating that Hashirama will lose to Nagato. How can someone of such status that can probably defeat PS be defeated by the likes of Nagato? Nagato didn't face Sage Mode Naruto and Kurama at the same time did he? It was one entity at a time. Naruto's Sage Mode was first, then his tails beast form. If Nagato faced against both Kurama and Naruto seperately. He would of lost the match. What i'm mainly saying to you is that Hashirama is a legend beyond words. I wish we could of seen more of him, but he was sealed early on Part I. Nagato isn't stronger until he can face off with the nine-tails and fend him off completely. Since he didn't do that in his match against Naruto. He is not considered in the same league as Hashirama. He is below a tier of level. Don't come an attack me with harsh words, when i'm right. Hashirama and Madara are descendants of the young and elder sons. They have been mentioned Hashirama's power considered at the level of SO6P. You think Nagato can handle that just because of Rinnegan? He barely had an easy time against Naruto in their match. How will he match up against against a man that single out both Kurama and Madara?

 

[sage22]

Hashirama crushes him under a forest.

You mean a forest made from ninjutsu. If i remember correct preta path absorbs ninjutsu duhh.

 

[TheSages456]

You mean a forest made from ninjutsu. If i remember correct preta path absorbs ninjutsu duhh.

So nagato absorbs the trees? By your logic he can absorb kimimaros bones too

 

[sage22]

Did you see Naruto vs Pain? I just wanna know if you did. Nagato failed to trapped Naruto in Chibaku Tensei in his eight-tails form. He realized he had to make the sphere larger, but he didn't have time. Your stating that Hashirama will lose to Nagato. How can someone of such status that can probably defeat PS be defeated by the likes of Nagato? Nagato didn't face Sage Mode Naruto and Kurama at the same time did he? It was one entity at a time. Naruto's Sage Mode was first, then his tails beast form. If Nagato faced against both Kurama and Naruto seperately. He would of lost the match. What i'm mainly saying to you is that Hashirama is a legend beyond words. I wish we could of seen more of him, but he was sealed early on Part I. Nagato isn't stronger until he can face off with the nine-tails and fend him off completely. Since he didn't do that in his match against Naruto. He is not considered in the same league as Hashirama. He is below a tier of level. Don't come an attack me with harsh words, when i'm right. Hashirama and Madara are descendants of the young and elder sons. They have been mentioned Hashirama's power considered at the level of SO6P. You think Nagato can handle that just because of Rinnegan? He barely had an easy time against Naruto in their match. How will he match up against against a man that single out both Kurama and Madara?

Ok first naruto has info of how each path worked and how to defeat them and kishi still had to cheat for naruto to defeat deva path. Next we didnt see the fight between hashirama and madara. The only reason he was able to win is cuz his ability to control tail beast. During the fight he sealed kurama inside is wife so its not like he was fighting them both by his self. People like you always put hashirama so mighty yet he hasnt shown us anything special.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

So nagato absorbs the trees? By your logic he can absorb kimimaros bones too

it's ninjutsu. Where's your evidence that Preta can't absorb solid objects? most people who go against its ability like to pull things out of the asses, so i'd like a manga page please.

 

[sage22]

So nagato absorbs the trees? By your logic he can absorb kimimaros bones too

Let me break it down for you cuz i can see your a lil slow. Kekkei Genkai is a from of jutsu. Wood release and kimimaros bone are forms of ninjutsu. Preta Paths ability absorbs chakra based jutsu. So unless they can do those things without chakra( which they cant) it would be absorbs also.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

Did you see Naruto vs Pain? I just wanna know if you did. Nagato failed to trapped Naruto in Chibaku Tensei in his eight-tails form. He realized he had to make the sphere larger, but he didn't have time. Your stating that Hashirama will lose to Nagato. How can someone of such status that can probably defeat PS be defeated by the likes of Nagato? Nagato didn't face Sage Mode Naruto and Kurama at the same time did he? It was one entity at a time. Naruto's Sage Mode was first, then his tails beast form. If Nagato faced against both Kurama and Naruto seperately. He would of lost the match. What i'm mainly saying to you is that Hashirama is a legend beyond words. I wish we could of seen more of him, but he was sealed early on Part I. Nagato isn't stronger until he can face off with the nine-tails and fend him off completely. Since he didn't do that in his match against Naruto. He is not considered in the same league as Hashirama. He is below a tier of level. Don't come an attack me with harsh words, when i'm right. Hashirama and Madara are descendants of the young and elder sons. They have been mentioned Hashirama's power considered at the level of SO6P. You think Nagato can handle that just because of Rinnegan? He barely had an easy time against Naruto in their match. How will he match up against against a man that single out both Kurama and Madara?

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First of all, please be able to differentiate between Paths of Pain and a complete Nagato. From this you will able to see through the fact that weakened versions of Nagato was able to go toe to toe against 8-Tailed Naruto. A complete Nagato is on a whole other level compared to that of his Paths.

Furthermore, Tobi stated Nagato be the 3rd of the Sage, which means that title itself overshadows the title of a fairy tale Hashirama.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Ok first naruto has info of how each path worked and how to defeat them and kishi still had to cheat for naruto to defeat deva path. Next we didnt see the fight between hashirama and madara. The only reason he was able to win is cuz his ability to control tail beast. During the fight he sealed kurama inside is wife so its not like he was fighting them both by his self. People like you always put hashirama so mighty yet he hasnt shown us anything special.

Didn't i say i wish we could see more of him. I don't overrate Hashirama like the Hashi fanboys. I just state whatever i feel. EMS Madara alone is a threat to the ninja world. I'm just trying to scale them based on powers and intelligence. Hashirama was no fool and he was strong both mentally and physically. Jiraiya alone could have defeated Pain if he knew his secrets, but he didn't have knowledge and time to defeat him. Hashirama could most likely defeat him given the facts that he experienced war and outmaneuvered anyone he faced in battle. I believe Hashirama takes this, but with difficulty. Hashirama doesn't need Tail Beast, Sharingan, Rinnegan, or any of that mumbo jumbo to be strong. He fights on natural talent alone.

 

[TheSages456]

it's ninjutsu. Where's your evidence that Preta can't absorb solid objects? most people who go against its ability like to pull things out of the asses, so i'd like a manga page please.

When did I say preta path couldn't absorb solid objects? Quote my exact comment. Hashirama uses his chakra and lifeforce to make life. Actual life. Hashirama then keeps using his lifeforce to make the trees grow and move. It's just like how kimimaros bones can't be absorbed or madaras meteor.

Let me break it down for you cuz i can see your a lil slow. Kekkei Genkai is a from of jutsu. Wood release and kimimaros bone are forms of ninjutsu. Preta Paths ability absorbs chakra based jutsu. So unless they can do those things without chakra( which they cant) it would be absorbs also.

Ah I see. The degree of being an idiot that you just showed far surpasses anyone I have ever seen. So can preta path absorb shinra tensei or madaras meteor.

 

[TouchMyMangos]

Didn't i say i wish we could see more of him. I don't overrate Hashirama like the Hashi fanboys. I just state whatever i feel. EMS Madara alone is a threat to the ninja world. I'm just trying to scale them based on powers and intelligence. Hashirama was no fool and he was strong both mentally and physically. Jiraiya alone could have defeated Pain if he knew his secrets, but he didn't have knowledge and time to defeat him. Hashirama could most likely defeat him given the facts that he experienced war and outmaneuvered anyone he faced in battle. I believe Hashirama takes this, but with difficulty. Hashirama doesn't need Tail Beast, Sharingan, Rinnegan, or any of that mumbo jumbo to be strong. He fights on natural talent alone.

You obviously don't read the whole manga because Jiraiya said he would die, in SM, just fighting 3 paths of Pain (and Deva Path wasn't even there).

"I just state whatever i feel" - really, what the hell is that?

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

When did I say preta path couldn't absorb solid objects? Quote my exact comment. Hashirama uses his chakra and lifeforce to make life. Actual life. Hashirama then keeps using his lifeforce to make the trees grow and move. It's just like how kimimaros bones can't be absorbed or madaras meteor.


Ah I see. The degree of being an idiot that you just showed far surpasses anyone I have ever seen. So can preta path absorb shinra tensei or madaras meteor.

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You obviously don't read the whole manga because Jiraiya said he would die, in SM, just fighting 3 paths of Pain (and Deva Path wasn't even there).

"I just state whatever i feel" - really, what the hell is that?

Dude i read the manga and i know that Jiraiya was exhausted at that point. He literally took three paths down with just genjutsu. Deva Path admitted that if Jiraiya had time to decipher their secrets. He would of won the match alone. Do i need to clue you in more?

 

[TouchMyMangos]

When did I say preta path couldn't absorb solid objects? Quote my exact comment. Hashirama uses his chakra and lifeforce to make life. Actual life. Hashirama then keeps using his lifeforce to make the trees grow and move. It's just like how kimimaros bones can't be absorbed or madaras meteor.

He doesn't make life, he just empties his chakra into the technique. The MANGA has told us that it is just ninjutsu - Doton, Suiton etc. Mokuton is just made up of his chakra. Where's your proof? preta Path absorbs all chakra regardless of its form. Kimimaro's bone gets absorbed, he's just using his chakra to make more bones, which is just ninjutsu. The meteor was because of Bansho tenin, so of course it wouldn't get absorbed.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

He doesn't make life, he just empties his chakra into the technique. The MANGA has told us that it is just ninjutsu - Doton, Suiton etc. Mokuton is just made up of his chakra. Where's your proof? preta Path absorbs all chakra regardless of its form. Kimimaro's bone gets absorbed, he's just using his chakra to make more bones, which is just ninjutsu. The meteor was because of Bansho tenin, so of course it wouldn't get absorbed.

Wow really? They mention his creation of tress which is chakra converted into the source of life. We know the classification of the jutsu. Why are you being so ignorant?